2024 NBA Season

[tabas]

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I think for Jordan Poole, he has to move on with playing with the Wizards now. And who knows, he could be their star after Beal and Kuzma as they are in a rebuilding phase. Fans though of the Warriors might not get this very easy because they love Poole. But with his performance from last season, he has to let go.

And I do agree that I see CP3 coming off the bench now, this could protect himself from injuries.

Steph will still be their starting PG and their roster is still intact even if they let go of Poole. Problem with Poole though is that there are no "baddies" going to watch Wizards game, 

It takes time to process these trades if he's got it by a surprise. Fans do really love Poole after they've won the 2022 NBA championship. He played well there and that's why this was a surprise when one of their best players have been traded. But with this 2023 playoffs, we do saw that he performed not very well. I guess with these trades after winning championship sometime ago and became of its contributors, it's gonna be a normal thing that some may be traded just like Kuzma.

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[Botnake]

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I think for Jordan Poole, he has to move on with playing with the Wizards now. And who knows, he could be their star after Beal and Kuzma as they are in a rebuilding phase. Fans though of the Warriors might not get this very easy because they love Poole. But with his performance from last season, he has to let go.

And I do agree that I see CP3 coming off the bench now, this could protect himself from injuries.

Steph will still be their starting PG and their roster is still intact even if they let go of Poole. Problem with Poole though is that there are no "baddies" going to watch Wizards game, 

It takes time to process these trades if he's got it by a surprise. Fans do really love Poole after they've won the 2022 NBA championship. He played well there and that's why this was a surprise when one of their best players have been traded. But with this 2023 playoffs, we do saw that he performed not very well. I guess with these trades after winning championship sometime ago and became of its contributors, it's gonna be a normal thing that some may be traded just like Kuzma.

We are no longer surprised that he got traded due to his lack of good performance in the playoffs. He was one of the biggest reasons why the Warriors failed, as he wasn't shooting like he was during their championship run in 2022. Now that he is gone, the team can start pursuing their serious goal of winning a championship again. I know that with CP3 being healthy, this team will be tougher to beat.

I hope to see Poole become a superstar in his new team, where there aren't a lot of superstars.

[danherbias07]

Man, the trades are going crazy. Undrafted players are also being signed.
The number 10 pick of the Dallas Mavericks + Davis Bertans will be traded for OKC number 12 and then Dereck Lively.
So much is happening, I think I'll just check the roster once everything is settled down. It's hard to keep up with all the picks being traded and some more.
Let's just focus on the big names that will soon be in a different jersey.

Looks like the Golden State Warriors are also trying to strengthen their outside shooting after trading Jordan Poole. They signed undrafted Javan Johnson for a 1-year deal. 42.6 field goal percentage and 41.2 in 3 points percentage. Not bad.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1672105899790589952?s=20

Undrafted free agent Javan Johnson out of DePaul has reached an agreement on a one-year deal with the Golden State Warriors, his agent Daniel Hazan of
@hazansportsmgmt tells @NBAonTNT
@BleacherReport

Jordan Poole has already left the Warriors through trade, so let's not expect that Draymond Green would follow suit. I believe they are currently in negotiations, and Draymond Green will likely enjoy a bigger contract after those negotiations. Poole was traded, but Green will probably stay if they still want to be a championship team.

Longer contract, that's his goal in this drama. And I think GM Dunleavy's move of trading Jordan Poole was the answer to that. He will probably give Draymond what he wants but let's see how much their luxury tax will be. They have a lot of players who are eating all their salary cap and I bet they are over it.

[Ziskinberg]

As of now, he'll be much useful as a forward rather than as a center because his body cannot handle the pressure and intensity inside the paint as we all know that there are others in the league right now that are so dominant in attacking and protecting their rims. Also, he will be under observation first to know if his body right now will be much the same in the few years to come because he's still quite young to know more about his build.

He already has the skills and talent that most big men don't have. I'm sure the team is already working on improving his physical strength so he can go head-to-head with the big men. Do you remember when Giannis came into the league? He wasn't as popular as the young big men now, but he was able to work his way up, improve his body, and has now become very unstoppable.

I think to dominate on the court doesn't have to be on the skills alone, you need strength in there and with that Wemby physique I think that needs more muscle and I think whatever team he may landed they'll work on it. He doesn't have to fill those expectations out of him, it can be worked step by step, he doesn't need to win the Finals in his rookie season or lift a team. It's a team and organization's effort after all.

Eventually, as long as he remains healthy, Wemby has the potential to become stronger, much like Kevin Durant. At first glance, Durant's physique might make one think he can be easily targeted, but in reality, he is not only a great offensive player but also a tough defender in his position. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Wemby develops into a player like Durant or even surpasses him someday, as long as the team knows how to manage his growth and development effectively.

[tabas]

It takes time to process these trades if he's got it by a surprise. Fans do really love Poole after they've won the 2022 NBA championship. He played well there and that's why this was a surprise when one of their best players have been traded. But with this 2023 playoffs, we do saw that he performed not very well. I guess with these trades after winning championship sometime ago and became of its contributors, it's gonna be a normal thing that some may be traded just like Kuzma.

We are no longer surprised that he got traded due to his lack of good performance in the playoffs. He was one of the biggest reasons why the Warriors failed, as he wasn't shooting like he was during their championship run in 2022. Now that he is gone, the team can start pursuing their serious goal of winning a championship again. I know that with CP3 being healthy, this team will be tougher to beat.

That's the good thing by acquiring CP3 and trading it for Poole but we know about how he's too prone to injuries and hopefully that it won't happen a lot. Most specially in those crucial times like if it happens that they're in a playoffs game or semi finals.

I hope to see Poole become a superstar in his new team, where there aren't a lot of superstars.

Maybe it will come in a blessing that he's there and he'll be treated differently unlike just by a support on his former team. I am looking at some websites that lists these rosters and they haven't updated yet the teams and roster like CP3 is still on Wizards, the same goes for Beal and Poole.

[inthelongrun]

The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo. A big surprising move by GSW after letting go of Poole and picking another PG in CP3. So it seems like the team will re-sign Green now. I would've preferred Poole rather than Green who's already showing big signs of aging yet continued to demand bigger contracts.   

I guess the Warriors management really did a lot of thinking, it's Green vs Poole. And so they decided to give the young fellow a boot and retain Green as he is one of the core players for the Warriors. If only Jordan Poole perform better in the playoffs, it might be a very difficult job for the management to decided which one to go. Unfortunately, his best performance with the Warriors is when they have that championship run. At least he had a ring already.

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

[Distinctin]

The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo. A big surprising move by GSW after letting go of Poole and picking another PG in CP3. So it seems like the team will re-sign Green now. I would've preferred Poole rather than Green who's already showing big signs of aging yet continued to demand bigger contracts.   

I guess the Warriors management really did a lot of thinking, it's Green vs Poole. And so they decided to give the young fellow a boot and retain Green as he is one of the core players for the Warriors. If only Jordan Poole perform better in the playoffs, it might be a very difficult job for the management to decided which one to go. Unfortunately, his best performance with the Warriors is when they have that championship run. At least he had a ring already.

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

You have a point comparing their age, but I don't really see Poole being as good as Curry or even a champion. This guy isn't clutch; he has the talent, that's given, but he loses his composure under pressure, unlike Green, who really stays composed. That's the reason why the Warriors won multiple championships.

It's a management decision because if they think Poole is worth keeping, then they shouldn't trade him.

However, Poole showed some immaturity during the last playoffs. He didn't act like a player who is paid a max contract, so the team was disappointed.

[LGD2Business]

Victor Wembanyama is lauded, but will he really be okay? Most of the tall players drafted in recent years have disappeared, except for 2-3. It's interesting that a French Power Forward was undoubtedly picked first in the draft, I call it the Doncic and Jokic factor. If they had not been so successful, we would not have seen the first pick tall European to be chosen. It will be good for the player that he goes to the Spurs. The organization that shines International players best may be Spurs. Let's see what he will do in the rookie season.

[LogitechMouse]

Why not CP3 be the starting PG for the Warriors, then Curry be the SG or Klay on that position. Just so funny though that 3 days ago I saw a interview from Mike Dunleavy Jr and saying that with Poole's contract, he will stay with the Warriors. But after that he was traded.

For Kuzma, if I'm not mistaken he declined the offer from the Wizards and most likely be in the trading block as well.

And if that happens then Poole will act as the new franchise player.

Curry is not going to relinquish his role as the starting guard. CP3 will not be playing every game, they will use him sparingly because he is older and has a tendancy to get injured. The Warriors have their core and lots of role players on the team, they're going to be looking to get past the drama from last year in the locker room and come together again for 1 last championship run. Klay and Steph will not be around forever.

And to add to this one, Curry has played as a PG in most of his career. When is the time where he played as a Shooting Guard? In his rookie year where he, and Monta Ellis was teammates. Back then, Ellis was their starting PG while Curry is the SG, and obviously it didn't work well.

This is the reason why I don't see CP3 as a starting PG in the Warriors. He has two options. Either accept the role as a bench, and lead the role players for a higher chance of winning a title, or be traded if he doesn't want to be a bench, and choose to be a starter. CP3 has a long list of injuries in his whole NBA career as well, and obviously he is almost non-existent during the playoffs, so even though they are considering him as "Point God" which I agree, I don't want to rely on him especially during the playoffs.

What the Warriors need right now are role players. In the years where they won a title, they are being surrounded by very good role players. Now they need some of them as well. They got GP2, Kuminga, Moody, but they need more especially a big that can sub out with Looney.

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

Well you have a point in that, but what did Poole contributed with the Warriors? Compare it to what Green has contributed in his whole NBA career. Yes Poole is young, but if I'm the GM, I'd rather keep Green as well because of how he impacts his teammates, and the whole team.

Like you said, Poole can just stay with the Wizards, and be the main player of the team. He didn't experience that in the Warriors since he's always been a bench. Now he can prove himself next season if he can be a reliable guard on a rebuilding team.

[Oasisman]

Victor Wembanyama is lauded, but will he really be okay? Most of the tall players drafted in recent years have disappeared, except for 2-3. It's interesting that a French Power Forward was undoubtedly picked first in the draft, I call it the Doncic and Jokic factor. If they had not been so successful, we would not have seen the first pick tall European to be chosen. It will be good for the player that he goes to the Spurs. The organization that shines International players best may be Spurs. Let's see what he will do in the rookie season.

Wemby is a total package and a freak of nature and we have never seen anybody like him before base on his performances. I am too is looking forward if he's gonna live up to the hype or gonna be devastated with an injury. I can only see one reason if he can't live up to the hype, major injury.
One of the most important fundamental these new players should focus their attention to is their durability. The ability to absorb injuries to avoid a major one.
Let's see what Wemby can do now that he's in the NBA. I'm a bit confident he'll do good. European basketball has better defense that the NBA.

[livingfree]

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We still don't have any news of Green wanting to get out of the Warriors though.

There was a news about him but an update, we don't have.

Green enters unrestricted free agency after declining the $27.5 million player option

Definitely CP3 is not a guarantee but I guess Warriors think that adding him might push them for another run at the title, specially if Green opted to get back since Poole is no longer with the team.

And it's also interesting that there are reports that Jordan Poole unfollow Draymond Green in Twitter, Lol. So the beef must be real between the two since the beginning of this season specially some videos of them having confrontation, not just the punching incident.

He has already declined an offer and I think if he'll negotiate with that, he have already done but he's probably going somewhere else and that's what his heart is telling him.

But for sure that the Warriors are open for him to comeback and alter his decision about the decline that he has made.

[tusandii]

He has already declined an offer and I think if he'll negotiate with that, he have already done but he's probably going somewhere else and that's what his heart is telling him.

But for sure that the Warriors are open for him to comeback and alter his decision about the decline that he has made.

He had a wish and his thoughts were different from everyone's expectations so turning down the offer was his heart's decision.
After all, accepting an offer in a team when he has no intention or compulsorily accepting will also never give good results in the future.
There may be other options but we don't know which one he will choose later.

Yes, the Warriors are always open for him to come back at any time and this is a tough decision whether to return for the Warriors or follow his heart.

[inthelongrun]

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

Well you have a point in that, but what did Poole contributed with the Warriors? Compare it to what Green has contributed in his whole NBA career. Yes Poole is young, but if I'm the GM, I'd rather keep Green as well because of how he impacts his teammates, and the whole team.

Like you said, Poole can just stay with the Wizards, and be the main player of the team. He didn't experience that in the Warriors since he's always been a bench. Now he can prove himself next season if he can be a reliable guard on a rebuilding team.

Well, it's just me and I will never question the proven management of GSW. Poole failed to perform to the expectations, especially during the playoffs but so did Green compared to his previous year's output. There's also Green's decision earlier to end his contract which means that GSW is not even guaranteed to re-sign him. And if Green re-signs it also means a higher salary like a minimum of $30 million per year? I just don't think Green is worth that money anymore. GSW though made the right decision to ditch Poole if he fails to perform in a weak team because he has a huge contract fit for a star player.

[dwyane36]

I think all he wants is security so giving him a longer contract should suffice to get him back to the team. An increase may not be his main goal on why he declined his option. News came out that he thinks he is worth $100m so give him 5 years of $20m.
Possibly, he wants to be there when Steph Curry retires and just get the money that he wants even though his co-main star is already resting.

Yeah, I've also heard rumors that Green naively thinks he deserves another $100 million contract and that the Warriors want him back. However, I still don't believe in this outcome. I mean, it makes no sense for the Warriors' management to offer him such a big, long contract because Green is 33 years old and already performing pretty mediocrely. Just imagine how bad he'll be when he turns 38.

[sunsilk]

It was a surprise to everybody because just a few days ago, it was said that they'll take Poole and won't be traded.

But then it was a different outcome and there goes the news that Poole was already traded. Another player that can't process yet the trades is Smart who is now with the Grizzlies.

He's the replacement probably for Dillon Brooks after being too talkative.

Honestly though, I kind of expecting these things to happen where teams will get rid of their own players that have been playing poorly in the recent season especially Jordan Poole for his inconsistency after gaining a massive contract. He went from being a huge contributor off the bench to a poor player that was literally unhelpful to the team's journey during their post season run.

We all saw this happen first with the Suns and also the other teams have followed by firing their coaches. What a crazy this past season had made for most teams and we're just done with the drafts.

I wouldn't judge him based on his past performance during the playoffs. It could just have been that he's got out of luck for that particular game and he might redeem himself for the next season.

What I didn't expected to happen was Marcus Smart being traded but it's reasonable enough as the team was targeting Kristaps Porzingis.

Poor guy, he's still trying to catch up and process the trade.

[OgNasty]

I think all he wants is security so giving him a longer contract should suffice to get him back to the team. An increase may not be his main goal on why he declined his option. News came out that he thinks he is worth $100m so give him 5 years of $20m.
Possibly, he wants to be there when Steph Curry retires and just get the money that he wants even though his co-main star is already resting.

Yeah, I've also heard rumors that Green naively thinks he deserves another $100 million contract and that the Warriors want him back. However, I still don't believe in this outcome. I mean, it makes no sense for the Warriors' management to offer him such a big, long contract because Green is 33 years old and already performing pretty mediocrely. Just imagine how bad he'll be when he turns 38.

I’m surprised Green hasn’t been traded already. I don’t think he can play at a championship level anymore. His shooting has been terrible. He is no longer able to be a stretch 4 and his bullying style of defense isn’t going to age well. I think he’s got about 2 or 3 years left in the league before he can’t start on any team. No way would I want to offer him a deal longer than 3 years and at nowhere near his current salary.

[wheelz1200]

Some big names have now been moved from the trade block.

The Suns said it is "very unlikely" they will trade Deandre Ayton, which is a good idea in my opinion.
They have plenty of outside shooting and need a strong big man under the basket. I don't know who they would play at center if they would have traded him.

Portland also said they don't want to trade Lillard. Somehow every summer it's the same game with them.
Many though Lillard would request a trade, especially if they draft Scoot Henderson. So now they drafted him, and nothing happened.  . Classic.

1 more thing, I don't understand why every team passed on Drew Timme. He played 4 years in Gonzaga, 21 points and 7,5 rebounds in his final season. Also first team all american in his senior year. Yet nobody drafted him? Maybe they don't see the upside but I think he can be a valuable asset for any team.

I guess that's why the Bucks now gave him a contract ( exhibit 10 deal , 1 year for minimum salary ) . I certainly hope he can prove himself and maybe build a NBA career from scratch.

Defense and athletic ability.  He is a classic great college player that doesn't translate over to the NBA.  With his size he will get hammered by other players in the NBA.  He took advantage of playing against good 18 years and 19 year Olds.  He doesn't have the athletic ability to compete in the NBA though.  Most of the time it has to do with being able to play defense.

[Pamadar]

Victor Wembanyama is lauded, but will he really be okay? Most of the tall players drafted in recent years have disappeared, except for 2-3. It's interesting that a French Power Forward was undoubtedly picked first in the draft, I call it the Doncic and Jokic factor. If they had not been so successful, we would not have seen the first pick tall European to be chosen. It will be good for the player that he goes to the Spurs. The organization that shines International players best may be Spurs. Let's see what he will do in the rookie season.

Wemby is a total package and a freak of nature and we have never seen anybody like him before base on his performances. I am too is looking forward if he's gonna live up to the hype or gonna be devastated with an injury. I can only see one reason if he can't live up to the hype, major injury.
One of the most important fundamental these new players should focus their attention to is their durability. The ability to absorb injuries to avoid a major one.
Let's see what Wemby can do now that he's in the NBA. I'm a bit confident he'll do good. European basketball has better defense that the NBA.

Looking forward to see him manifesting with what coach Pop will bring to him,

Not sure about the injury, but maybe he can be like Banchero as he manages to play with some minor injury and survive the
season, if Wemby will also do the same and he will be paired or surrounded by good role players.

The chance of making his name and bringing the Spurs back as a contender might take place. Too early to conclude
what he can contribute, let the time will reveal that for us.

[bitgolden]

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

You have a point comparing their age, but I don't really see Poole being as good as Curry or even a champion. This guy isn't clutch; he has the talent, that's given, but he loses his composure under pressure, unlike Green, who really stays composed. That's the reason why the Warriors won multiple championships.

It's a management decision because if they think Poole is worth keeping, then they shouldn't trade him.

However, Poole showed some immaturity during the last playoffs. He didn't act like a player who is paid a max contract, so the team was disappointed.

I do believe that Poole was a tradable asset, there is nothing wrong with that, but I am not entirely sure if he was a player they needed to get rid of, that was a bit over the top and I think it should be a bit different in that case. I think if you are handling the situation a bit differently, they could have gotten someone else.

Giving Poole AND picks for CP3 doesn't seem like a good trade, there is a potential to do something much bigger than that. Hopefully they will do better, not entirely sure if they would, but if they end up losing early on, that means that the trade was for nothing and they have lost a player for nothing. Either a title win or at the very worst case a conference finals would make this deal worth it to me.

[wheelz1200]

I prefer Poole over Green since the former is still young and can improve while the latter has already seen its glory days. But it is very hard to say something negative about the management of GSW since they're a proven successful team. They saw something in CP3 that makes their team stronger, something that only a few fans can understand. And even with their decision to let go of Poole, Green already made his decision to end his contract. I felt like Green is just bluffing about wanting to make bigger money and he will settle and re-sign with GSW with lesser money than his ridiculous demands. 

Poole can stay with the Wizards and maybe he becomes the main man in that team. But there is always the chance to buy out if he wants to be in a team capable of competing against the other top teams.

You have a point comparing their age, but I don't really see Poole being as good as Curry or even a champion. This guy isn't clutch; he has the talent, that's given, but he loses his composure under pressure, unlike Green, who really stays composed. That's the reason why the Warriors won multiple championships.

It's a management decision because if they think Poole is worth keeping, then they shouldn't trade him.

However, Poole showed some immaturity during the last playoffs. He didn't act like a player who is paid a max contract, so the team was disappointed.

I do believe that Poole was a tradable asset, there is nothing wrong with that, but I am not entirely sure if he was a player they needed to get rid of, that was a bit over the top and I think it should be a bit different in that case. I think if you are handling the situation a bit differently, they could have gotten someone else.

Giving Poole AND picks for CP3 doesn't seem like a good trade, there is a potential to do something much bigger than that. Hopefully they will do better, not entirely sure if they would, but if they end up losing early on, that means that the trade was for nothing and they have lost a player for nothing. Either a title win or at the very worst case a conference finals would make this deal worth it to me.

Sometimes a player just doesn't fit on the team.  Obviously there were more off the court issues anyone is realizing here.  Something like that can sink a team.  So it might very well be worth that just for the subtraction of Poole.  And cp3 is still one of the best pure point guards in the league.  It's not like they got some bench rider for poole.