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July 13, 2023, 03:00:18 AM |
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James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management. Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.
Harden is not a special player anymore. He is more a liability IMO as anyone who takes him has to worry that they will be the 4th team he wants traded from. He's not worth the risk or the money. TBH, I'm 50/50 at what you said. Yes he isn't the prime Harden anymore like what he is in Houston where he averages 25-30 PPG, but on the other hand, he leads all the shooting guards in terms of assists with 8.2, and his playmaking abilities helped getting Embiid his first MVP title. Well, I agree that he isn't special, and his value is not worth it anymore, but I guess he can still be a big help with the team... a team with 2 all-star players maybe like when he's on Brooklyn. Now with regards to Harden wanted to get traded, I don't know which teams are interested with him TBH, but I saw in the internet that the Clippers wanted him, but the question is who will be trading just to get him, and is it worth it? I'm not hearing other teams interested on him anymore as of now, and even the Rockets who are continuously saying a few months ago that they wanted him now is silent when it comes to him, so they aren't interested on him as well.
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I confess... for me it is gratifying to see Cousins, IT and Howard have the opportunity to return to play in the NBA. Even though they are over 30 years old, I believe they still have potential to play in the NBA again.
Last offseason, we also discussed the future of these guys in the NBA, but no team wanted to offer them even a minimum contract at that time. As far as I know, now nothing has actually changed, and there are only rumors that they may return to the NBA. As I see it, IT has the best chance to return, as he recently had workouts in Vegas for multiple NBA teams, while Howard and Cousins are not likely to be seen in the NBA again. I see the same, with how the teams are recruiting players, they are more into flexibility. Both Cousins and Howard can be a liability with the way they are playing the game. It might be hard for them to cope up with the young and big guys who are playing the game now. Both past superstars are already aging and the speed is no longer present plus the way the game is being played now more on outside plays and running attacks, not sure if both cousins and Howard can still find a team that fits the way they play the game.
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July 13, 2023, 04:36:45 AM |
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2. Awarding of second challenge to the coach when the first one was successful.
This should be implemented earlier since flop destroy a lot of important game. This issue is known by the refs during review that some of their call is just flop but coaches doesn’t want to waste their challenge on silly acting. Many star player benefits on this method on drawing foul since they have the charisma and star power to the refs for making them easy to believe. Flop cips is always shown in the highlights on NBA replays. I wonder why the committee allows this kind of dirty trick before it gets a heavy penalty. Flopping was really a challenge on the referees POV. This was never really a problem before as it has been considered part of the defensive play to sell offensive fouls to the refs. Manu Ginobli have done this several times before but not too often like the players do today. The NBA imposes penalties now because it has been abused by a lot of players already. LeBron was not really a flopper until he had enough of all the no call fouls on him and that is where the flopping became popular as LeBron and James Harden did it more effectively than before. So, this might be the reason why the NBA took a long time to impose such penalties on the flopping team.
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July 13, 2023, 06:01:25 AM |
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I confess... for me it is gratifying to see Cousins, IT and Howard have the opportunity to return to play in the NBA. Even though they are over 30 years old, I believe they still have potential to play in the NBA again.
Last offseason, we also discussed the future of these guys in the NBA, but no team wanted to offer them even a minimum contract at that time. As far as I know, now nothing has actually changed, and there are only rumors that they may return to the NBA. As I see it, IT has the best chance to return, as he recently had workouts in Vegas for multiple NBA teams, while Howard and Cousins are not likely to be seen in the NBA again. I see the same, with how the teams are recruiting players, they are more into flexibility. Both Cousins and Howard can be a liability with the way they are playing the game. It might be hard for them to cope up with the young and big guys who are playing the game now. Both past superstars are already aging and the speed is no longer present plus the way the game is being played now more on outside plays and running attacks, not sure if both cousins and Howard can still find a team that fits the way they play the game. Yeah, that is entirely true but as I said in my earlier posts about this, a 1-year veteran contract should suffice, I bet they will be happy with that. They just want the opportunity to be back in the game and maybe prove something. If somehow they could showcase their skills again then it's up to the next season if other teams are impressed with whatever they do in this season. I don't think their agents are also looking for a big contract, just enough to keep them going and its the playing time they want the most. Now with regards to Harden wanted to get traded, I don't know which teams are interested with him TBH, but I saw in the internet that the Clippers wanted him, but the question is who will be trading just to get him, and is it worth it? I'm not hearing other teams interested on him anymore as of now, and even the Rockets who are continuously saying a few months ago that they wanted him now is silent when it comes to him, so they aren't interested on him as well.
I think the Clippers have enough cap now after Westbrook signed only $3.8M for the Clippers. I mean, that's a lot of change from $41M to a veteran contract because he just wants the championship this year and I doubt some team will sign him again at the high price. They have room, but it's up to Harden if he thinks his value is still expensive. He could do the same as WB did or a bit higher than it but their purpose will just be the same.
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July 13, 2023, 08:37:17 AM |
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Dwight Howard really wants to be back in the league next year. I’m honestly a bit shocked he wasn’t in the league last year. I still think he’s a top 10 center in the league. Same with DeMarcus Cousins. I hope they both, along with Isaiah Thomas (who has been working out for teams this offseason) get a chance to show they aren’t done yet.
I agree, I read somewhere that they are eyeing Saric before, until the Warriors get him in a one year deal, and perhaps it could have been influence by Chris Paul himself as they used to be team mates in Phoenix and there are videos of him and Paul connecting thru pick and roll and Saric hitting that outside shot. Dwight Howard, Cousins, or even Christian Wood could also be a good fit for them. But let's see who will be their target, Howard and Cousins has the experienced. But Christian Wood is young. I would pick Christian Wood among those vets since he's young and they can still develop that guy. He can shoot and defense but wondering why teams are not interested with him maybe there's something wrong with their scouting and I believe he will be a perfect fit on Warriors knowing Paul is there which can facilitate them properly. Warriors should think about it since they really need additional big man to their team. It's his defense though that is lacking, that's why teams are not interested in him. But years ago before he was shipped to Dallas, he is one of those athletic center that can shoot the 3. I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
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July 13, 2023, 10:02:20 AM |
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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.html
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July 13, 2023, 10:31:51 AM |
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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.htmlBut if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid. So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion.
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July 13, 2023, 11:02:32 AM |
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James Harden has stated again that he wants to be traded to the Sixers management. Harden wants to leave the team, Los Angeles Clippers are being considered for a trade, but there is no progress at the moment.
Harden is not a special player anymore. He is more a liability IMO as anyone who takes him has to worry that they will be the 4th team he wants traded from. He's not worth the risk or the money. Not only that, but the team that he wanted to be traded is already loaded with stars and good second stringers. If Clippers will pursue him, then obviously they will lose a lot of good rotational players and most likely future draft picks as well. And as you have said, he might not be in his prime years or maybe he has lost some steps. And he could be a liability for anytime right now specially if he will commit a lot of turnovers which he is prone to.
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July 13, 2023, 11:11:27 AM |
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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.htmlBut if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid. So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion. You know, the Warriors are indeed a strong team, and they have a good track record of developing players. In contrast, the Lakers already have Anthony Davis and they don't prioritize ball movement as much as the Warriors do. Personally, I believe the Warriors would be more likely to sign Wood. However, I could be mistaken, so if the Lakers were to pursue him, it could be a good move for them, providing a solid backup for Davis as the latter is an injury prone big already.
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July 13, 2023, 11:12:05 AM |
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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.htmlBut if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid. So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion. If I remember it right, AD was informed that he will go back to number 4 position, it make me think that lakers are serious about putting a good number 5 to help him inside, though in terms of the way Wood playing the game, I agree with you that it might be tough for them placing him as they already have lots of scorers who can give them good offense. And same with the Warriors, though let see if what's the next update about Wood we never know which team will sign him.
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July 13, 2023, 11:19:47 AM |
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I agree with you that it might be tough for them placing him as they already have lots of scorers who can give them good offense. And same with the Warriors, though let see if what's the next update about Wood we never know which team will sign him.
The Lakers faced the Nuggets because they were a strong team, with the Nuggets holding the top spot during the season while the Lakers barely made it to the playoffs. From my personal observation, what seemed to be lacking for the Lakers at that time was support for Davis. While Davis could effectively guard Jokic, he appeared to be burdened with both scoring and defensive responsibilities, leading to potential fatigue. It might have been beneficial for Davis to focus on one specific role, whether it be offense or defense, in order to maximize his impact.
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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.htmlBut if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid. So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion. You know, the Warriors are indeed a strong team, and they have a good track record of developing players. In contrast, the Lakers already have Anthony Davis and they don't prioritize ball movement as much as the Warriors do. Personally, I believe the Warriors would be more likely to sign Wood. However, I could be mistaken, so if the Lakers were to pursue him, it could be a good move for them, providing a solid backup for Davis as the latter is an injury prone big already. Time is ticking up for Warriors and if they didn't take Wood most provably he goes on another team which they can use him as back up center like lakers. Warriors should add this guy in the rooster since they really need a big man to help them up if they are out rebounded by big teams. We already see it on Lakers series where they are been dominated on rebounding so maybe they can put some guy to possible solve the issue depends on the game flow. They can still use the small ball line up but as stated its good to have another alternative if their small ball line up will not work.
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July 13, 2023, 01:19:44 PM |
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We already see it on Lakers series where they are been dominated on rebounding so maybe they can put some guy to possible solve the issue depends on the game flow. They can still use the small ball line up but as stated its good to have another alternative if their small ball line up will not work.
No, the Lakers getting outrebounded does not happen frequently, and it's not their main problem. If we recall their performance in the playoffs, they were dominant in the paint due to their size advantage. However, their main issue was their poor shooting from the outside, particularly from the 3-point line, during the playoffs.
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July 13, 2023, 01:43:19 PM |
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Dang Portland is willing for the waiting game on the Damian Lillard trade. So it seems that the Miami Heat only has a 50% chance of getting Lillard. The open market is silent right now, but the teams are pretty sure busy making negotiations away from public eyes. If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team. Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe. I don't know if it is the San Antonio management that wanted the kid to stay out of the media for a while but it is a good decision. The kid is still young and maybe immature with his thoughts just like when he said before that he doesn't need to gain weight in the NBA. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 13, 2023, 02:05:36 PM |
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Not only that, but the team that he wanted to be traded is already loaded with stars and good second stringers. If Clippers will pursue him, then obviously they will lose a lot of good rotational players and most likely future draft picks as well. And as you have said, he might not be in his prime years or maybe he has lost some steps. And he could be a liability for anytime right now specially if he will commit a lot of turnovers which he is prone to.
He thinks that he can no longer help the 76ers to get the championship they really wanted because he seems not to find the right chemistry with the team and he is planning to get it with the help of the players he needs. He really wanted to get that ring as he is now close to retiring from the NBA and when his skills are no longer there, he will also lose his value and eventually might not gonna be there in the NBA and be forced to play in the other country just like the other NBA players recently. this is probably his last chance to be traded in a team that he thinks has the ability to take him to the NBA championship this upcoming season.
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July 13, 2023, 02:13:12 PM |
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Dang Portland is willing for the waiting game on the Damian Lillard trade. So it seems that the Miami Heat only has a 50% chance of getting Lillard. The open market is silent right now, but the teams are pretty sure busy making negotiations away from public eyes. If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.
They are likely attempting to secure players or a player who would be valuable in a potential trade for Lillard. However, the longer they wait, the more it could impact their upcoming season's journey. Lillard's future with the team may become uncertain, especially in light of his statement expressing a desire to no longer play with the team. If the situation persists, there is a possibility that Lillard may not participate or the team may consider him unavailable for the season. Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe. I don't know if it is the San Antonio management that wanted the kid to stay out of the media for a while but it is a good decision. The kid is still young and maybe immature with his thoughts just like when he said before that he doesn't need to gain weight in the NBA. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Perhaps it would have been wise for him to wait a little longer before making that statement. The experience he had was just during the summer league, and it's possible that his perspective could change once the regular season begins.
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July 13, 2023, 02:14:35 PM |
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I guess he was really given the green signal to shoot that time. But with Dallas, they want a true center which Wood didn't provide and that's why he was released and teams are not keen on his talents anymore, I reckon.
He isn't a real threat as a center despite his size, which can be seen as a liability. However, he can contribute significantly in terms of scoring. Looking at his stats from last season, he averaged 16.6 points per game (PPG), which is already a good contribution. Therefore, I believe he would fit well with a team that prioritizes offense over defense and values ball movement. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01.htmlBut if Lakers or the Warriors are the team that are looking for a good center, then they are loaded with scorers already, which make Christian Wood a liability to them. And again, he is a good scoring threat, but it seems they are looking for a center that is in the mold of let's say Ayton or even Joel Embiid. So as much as his stats is that good, he might not be a perfect fit for a offensive team, in my opinion. You know, the Warriors are indeed a strong team, and they have a good track record of developing players. In contrast, the Lakers already have Anthony Davis and they don't prioritize ball movement as much as the Warriors do. Personally, I believe the Warriors would be more likely to sign Wood. However, I could be mistaken, so if the Lakers were to pursue him, it could be a good move for them, providing a solid backup for Davis as the latter is an injury prone big already. Warriors for me is a good place to develop Woods capabilities, still young and have that quality to work with how the Warrior's work, he can run and for me, that's a good edge for him if Warriors will bring him in. A good replacement for Looney, not a scoring weapon but for sure if given a chance he will be a good backup for the Warriors as he also has that threat outside. With CP3 and Curry, the rotations might be different when Woods manages to blend his game with the Warriors stars.
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July 13, 2023, 02:25:30 PM |
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[....]If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.
Some proposals trading Robinson and Herro for Bulls' Lavine in case they don't get Dame soon. I don't know if that's going to be the case but I think it's not a good deal for the Heat. Meanwhile, Victor Wembanyama just made a remark saying the NBA is less physical than his games in Europe. We can't blame him for that since he hasn't experienced the real one yet but I'm pretty sure some US players who read that are going to get a piece of him. He's in for a rude awakening hehe.
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July 13, 2023, 02:43:12 PM |
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[....]If Miami Heat cannot execute a good deal before the start of the season, then they are in for a rude awakening after losing Struss and Vincent who are both vital for the team.
Some proposals trading Robinson and Herro for Bulls' Lavine in case they don't get Dame soon. I don't know if that's going to be the case but I think it's not a good deal for the Heat. AFAIK, the rookie Nikola Jovic is also part of the proposal and that's why the Heat is just trying to get rid of them just to get Zach. I also don't think it's a good deal for the Heat but then, they know what's best for their team and what they lack. With CP3 and Curry, the rotations might be different when Woods manages to blend his game with the Warriors stars.
So, it's going to be a trio with Klay as well. The rotation is going to be good and new but I still think that they lack of big man although they've got Dray on their side. Too many trade rumors that have became a meme on social media that I am seeing and sometimes people are too gullible to believe those fake trade proposals.
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July 13, 2023, 03:43:02 PM |
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A lot of veteran floppers will have to adjust to this now hehe. Good for the game.
This changes their style of getting a foul so, there's a big adjustment that they have to do especially the ones that do it every game. That will indeed make the games more exciting to watch, as the mastered "flopping" style employed by some players will be penalized in the upcoming new season. It is a necessary move that the NBA has made, considering the complaints and frustration expressed by fans, especially when prominent floppers like James Harden benefit from unfair techniques. It is long overdue but this is just one of the many changes that the NBA basketball is having for the next season. They don't mind about the thoughts of their fans about it. But it's just that they have to change something and it's been abused by many veterans in the league for so long and that's why this should have been implemented long time ago but just happened and approved this upcoming season 23-24.
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