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December 08, 2023, 10:45:21 PM
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Judging by their past matchups, I find the Pacers to be the better team as they defeated the top two teams in the East. First, they beat the Celtics, and now the Bucks, so they should not be underestimated just because the Lakers are the popular team. The Lakers, on the other hand, beat the Suns and the Pelicans, which are not even in the top 3 in the West.

I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.
I think it is quite the opposite, Pacers are a fine team there is no doubt about that, but Lakers are doing wonders at a stacked Western conference, and that's a very good thing for them, they are looking like they are one of the better teams in the league.

I think Pacers will lose and I think Lakers will win this one. I am sure of just one thing and that is the fact that there will be a lot of betting on this game without a doubt, it is going to be quite obvious and we are going to see a lot of changes for sure. I think it should be important to remember that we are talking about Lakers and Lebron here, when it is the finals Lebron may not have wonderful record, but he does have plenty of rings to show how he plays much better on finals.

I'm on the Pacers side and honestly I have a side bet on them winning the finals.  Going to put some dough on Haliburton taking home the MVP.  Can't believe the Knicks passed on him taking obi, still eats me up especially because they needed a point guard back then.  Dude is gonna be a monster.  Only thing that can stop him is if playoff Bron is in full effect.
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December 08, 2023, 10:52:34 PM
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Judging by their past matchups, I find the Pacers to be the better team as they defeated the top two teams in the East. First, they beat the Celtics, and now the Bucks, so they should not be underestimated just because the Lakers are the popular team. The Lakers, on the other hand, beat the Suns and the Pelicans, which are not even in the top 3 in the West.

I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.
I think it is quite the opposite, Pacers are a fine team there is no doubt about that, but Lakers are doing wonders at a stacked Western conference, and that's a very good thing for them, they are looking like they are one of the better teams in the league.

I think Pacers will lose and I think Lakers will win this one. I am sure of just one thing and that is the fact that there will be a lot of betting on this game without a doubt, it is going to be quite obvious and we are going to see a lot of changes for sure. I think it should be important to remember that we are talking about Lakers and Lebron here, when it is the finals Lebron may not have wonderful record, but he does have plenty of rings to show how he plays much better on finals.

I'm on the Pacers side and honestly I have a side bet on them winning the finals.  Going to put some dough on Haliburton taking home the MVP.  Can't believe the Knicks passed on him taking obi, still eats me up especially because they needed a point guard back then.  Dude is gonna be a monster.  Only thing that can stop him is if playoff Bron is in full effect.

Lot of good things happening to Pacers now and it seems they are really doing great for this season so in this tournament I may also go with them since leadership of Haliburton is really great since he really make his teammates became more better that's why they see a result now. Compare to Lakers where they are relying to much on Lebron and Davis so I think a well composed team will win compare on a team which is only tanking their star players.

I'm excited to know which of them will win since If Pacers could able to defeat Lakers then we can project that they have huge chance to win a championship for this season with their current rooster they have. Although Lakers would be the heavy favorite of others but Pacers really have huge chance to win if they play the same basketball and will not get nervous since there's huge prize at stake if they successfully win against Lakers.

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December 08, 2023, 11:21:19 PM
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Judging by their past matchups, I find the Pacers to be the better team as they defeated the top two teams in the East. First, they beat the Celtics, and now the Bucks, so they should not be underestimated just because the Lakers are the popular team. The Lakers, on the other hand, beat the Suns and the Pelicans, which are not even in the top 3 in the West.

I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.
I think it is quite the opposite, Pacers are a fine team there is no doubt about that, but Lakers are doing wonders at a stacked Western conference, and that's a very good thing for them, they are looking like they are one of the better teams in the league.

I think Pacers will lose and I think Lakers will win this one. I am sure of just one thing and that is the fact that there will be a lot of betting on this game without a doubt, it is going to be quite obvious and we are going to see a lot of changes for sure. I think it should be important to remember that we are talking about Lakers and Lebron here, when it is the finals Lebron may not have wonderful record, but he does have plenty of rings to show how he plays much better on finals.

I'm on the Pacers side and honestly I have a side bet on them winning the finals.  Going to put some dough on Haliburton taking home the MVP.  Can't believe the Knicks passed on him taking obi, still eats me up especially because they needed a point guard back then.  Dude is gonna be a monster.  Only thing that can stop him is if playoff Bron is in full effect.

It's going to be a good challenge for the Lakers here, I also agree that Haliburton might win the MVP finals as the main offense of the
Pacers will be executed from him, I mean he's expected to bring everything on his shoulder to win the finals.

Though, from the other side of myself, I also see Lakers to bring everything in, LeBron and Davis combine plus everyone who also needed to
provide whatever help they can give for both superstars.

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December 09, 2023, 12:12:26 AM
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Judging by their past matchups, I find the Pacers to be the better team as they defeated the top two teams in the East. First, they beat the Celtics, and now the Bucks, so they should not be underestimated just because the Lakers are the popular team. The Lakers, on the other hand, beat the Suns and the Pelicans, which are not even in the top 3 in the West.

I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.
I think it is quite the opposite, Pacers are a fine team there is no doubt about that, but Lakers are doing wonders at a stacked Western conference, and that's a very good thing for them, they are looking like they are one of the better teams in the league.

I think Pacers will lose and I think Lakers will win this one. I am sure of just one thing and that is the fact that there will be a lot of betting on this game without a doubt, it is going to be quite obvious and we are going to see a lot of changes for sure. I think it should be important to remember that we are talking about Lakers and Lebron here, when it is the finals Lebron may not have wonderful record, but he does have plenty of rings to show how he plays much better on finals.

I'm on the Pacers side and honestly I have a side bet on them winning the finals.  Going to put some dough on Haliburton taking home the MVP.  Can't believe the Knicks passed on him taking obi, still eats me up especially because they needed a point guard back then.  Dude is gonna be a monster.  Only thing that can stop him is if playoff Bron is in full effect.

It's going to be a good challenge for the Lakers here, I also agree that Haliburton might win the MVP finals as the main offense of the
Pacers will be executed from him, I mean he's expected to bring everything on his shoulder to win the finals.

Though, from the other side of myself, I also see Lakers to bring everything in, LeBron and Davis combine plus everyone who also needed to
provide whatever help they can give for both superstars.



And for sure lebron wants to win the first play in tourny no doubt.  He wants to be the best player ever he needs to have all of these things under his belt.  This would just be another cherry to go along with the rest of his accolades.  I still think Pacers take it but I'm gonna throw some money on the over for lebron points.  He gonna shoot a ton.
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December 09, 2023, 01:16:48 AM
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Judging by their past matchups, I find the Pacers to be the better team as they defeated the top two teams in the East. First, they beat the Celtics, and now the Bucks, so they should not be underestimated just because the Lakers are the popular team. The Lakers, on the other hand, beat the Suns and the Pelicans, which are not even in the top 3 in the West.

I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.
I think it is quite the opposite, Pacers are a fine team there is no doubt about that, but Lakers are doing wonders at a stacked Western conference, and that's a very good thing for them, they are looking like they are one of the better teams in the league.

I think Pacers will lose and I think Lakers will win this one. I am sure of just one thing and that is the fact that there will be a lot of betting on this game without a doubt, it is going to be quite obvious and we are going to see a lot of changes for sure. I think it should be important to remember that we are talking about Lakers and Lebron here, when it is the finals Lebron may not have wonderful record, but he does have plenty of rings to show how he plays much better on finals.

I'm on the Pacers side and honestly I have a side bet on them winning the finals.  Going to put some dough on Haliburton taking home the MVP.  Can't believe the Knicks passed on him taking obi, still eats me up especially because they needed a point guard back then.  Dude is gonna be a monster.  Only thing that can stop him is if playoff Bron is in full effect.

It's going to be a good challenge for the Lakers here, I also agree that Haliburton might win the MVP finals as the main offense of the
Pacers will be executed from him, I mean he's expected to bring everything on his shoulder to win the finals.

Though, from the other side of myself, I also see Lakers to bring everything in, LeBron and Davis combine plus everyone who also needed to
provide whatever help they can give for both superstars.



And for sure lebron wants to win the first play in tourny no doubt.  He wants to be the best player ever he needs to have all of these things under his belt.  This would just be another cherry to go along with the rest of his accolades.  I still think Pacers take it but I'm gonna throw some money on the over for lebron points.  He gonna shoot a ton.

I think you’re right about LeBron and having additional motivation. I think this is a case of him simply wanting it more than everyone else. I wouldn’t bet against him either as he’s playing at an elite level. I think he takes home the win and probably does it in superstar fashion with a big game. I might have to follow you on the points bet.

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December 09, 2023, 03:04:08 AM
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Judging by their past matchups, I find the Pacers to be the better team as they defeated the top two teams in the East. First, they beat the Celtics, and now the Bucks, so they should not be underestimated just because the Lakers are the popular team. The Lakers, on the other hand, beat the Suns and the Pelicans, which are not even in the top 3 in the West.

I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.
I think it is quite the opposite, Pacers are a fine team there is no doubt about that, but Lakers are doing wonders at a stacked Western conference, and that's a very good thing for them, they are looking like they are one of the better teams in the league.

I think Pacers will lose and I think Lakers will win this one. I am sure of just one thing and that is the fact that there will be a lot of betting on this game without a doubt, it is going to be quite obvious and we are going to see a lot of changes for sure. I think it should be important to remember that we are talking about Lakers and Lebron here, when it is the finals Lebron may not have wonderful record, but he does have plenty of rings to show how he plays much better on finals.

I'm on the Pacers side and honestly I have a side bet on them winning the finals.  Going to put some dough on Haliburton taking home the MVP.  Can't believe the Knicks passed on him taking obi, still eats me up especially because they needed a point guard back then.  Dude is gonna be a monster.  Only thing that can stop him is if playoff Bron is in full effect.

It's really hard to see who the finals will turn out, we have Lebron James, eager to show that he still has it and putting performance that he seems to be still in his prime years. Dunking the play and making his team mates look good with that assist. And then he bully himself going inside the basketball and no one can stop him. Their own benches are surprises to see that kind of performance. On the other hand, the young Pacers, starring Haliburton, they are the big surprise in this tournament beating a lot of elite them like the Celtics and then the Bucks shut them down with good defense. So might be good to take a good bet on the Pacers here and I do agree Haliburton if Pacers win will be the obvious MVP of the tournament.

 
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December 09, 2023, 03:54:31 AM
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Another heart breaking loss by the Golden State Warriors. Again, Chet brought the game to the OT from silly fouls of Draymond and Chet was able to shoot all 3 Free Throws. The biggest story here is the Warriors turnovers, they own the best record this season with 29.

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December 09, 2023, 04:01:18 AM
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Tight match between the Golden State Warriors and Oklahoma City Thunder. Stephen Curry sunked a big three but Draymond Green committed a terrible foul on Holmgren. I was suspicious Holmgren would not shoot all three free throws with the tension and being a newbie however he made it and the match went extra time. Holmgren is my rookie of the year, in overtime, he hit a big three and then made an important assist in their last position, preventing them from another overtime.

Thunder astonished me this season for positioning themselves at the upper ranking. Be that as it may, we are going to find out soon if they are truly becoming one of the teams to beat.

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December 09, 2023, 05:49:28 AM
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Another heart breaking loss by the Golden State Warriors. Again, Chet brought the game to the OT from silly fouls of Draymond and Chet was able to shoot all 3 Free Throws. The biggest story here is the Warriors turnovers, they own the best record this season with 29.

This defeat against Thunder was the umpteenth time because previously they also lost against Thunder.
At the start of the match the Warriors seemed to be playing well and even had 14 point lead but as the match progressed the situation was reversed by the Thunder who started to recover and were able to score more points.
But this defeat seems much better than before because they only lost by aexperienci very small margin of 2 points and for some reason this season the Warriors are really experiencing bad phase because they are losing more often.
We can see in the table the Warriors match history that they always lose more often.
If conditions like this continue for long time without any improvements and changes, we can be sure that they will have difficulty occupying one of the top ranks in the Western region standings.

Yes, in terms of turnovers the Warriors committed 29 turnovers, which is the highest record this season.

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December 09, 2023, 06:22:45 AM
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Another heart breaking loss by the Golden State Warriors. Again, Chet brought the game to the OT from silly fouls of Draymond and Chet was able to shoot all 3 Free Throws. The biggest story here is the Warriors turnovers, they own the best record this season with 29.

This defeat against Thunder was the umpteenth time because previously they also lost against Thunder.
At the start of the match the Warriors seemed to be playing well and even had 14 point lead but as the match progressed the situation was reversed by the Thunder who started to recover and were able to score more points.
But this defeat seems much better than before because they only lost by aexperienci very small margin of 2 points and for some reason this season the Warriors are really experiencing bad phase because they are losing more often.
We can see in the table the Warriors match history that they always lose more often.
If conditions like this continue for long time without any improvements and changes, we can be sure that they will have difficulty occupying one of the top ranks in the Western region standings.

Yes, in terms of turnovers the Warriors committed 29 turnovers, which is the highest record this season.

It was a winnable game by the Warriors but I don't understand why Green fouled the game who gave them a heartache on their previous match up. Chet was really a cold blooded shooter, may it be in the 3 point area or in the FT line, he was sinking those 3 shots like there was no pressure at all, I guess he really deserve to win the ROY.

While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.

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Another heart breaking loss by the Golden State Warriors. Again, Chet brought the game to the OT from silly fouls of Draymond and Chet was able to shoot all 3 Free Throws. The biggest story here is the Warriors turnovers, they own the best record this season with 29.

Turnovers! Damn it. Wiggins was not playing like he normally plays. He kept on losing the ball or turning it over in a bad way. It's only Steph Curry that had been shouldering their offense with Kuminga's help, and Klay Thompson.
Anyway, they have a bad track record of losing against the OKC Thunder, the last time it went to overtime it also ended the same way.
Yes, they could've won the game in regulation if only Draymond Green had not made that mistake of fouling Chet Holmgren. I know their plan was to foul so that it would only be a 2 free throw game but Chet knew what they would do and so he jumped up and tried to shoot the ball. If I were in that position, I would just let him shoot and because he is rushing, he might miss it.

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December 09, 2023, 09:32:40 AM
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Another heart breaking loss by the Golden State Warriors. Again, Chet brought the game to the OT from silly fouls of Draymond and Chet was able to shoot all 3 Free Throws. The biggest story here is the Warriors turnovers, they own the best record this season with 29.

This defeat against Thunder was the umpteenth time because previously they also lost against Thunder.
At the start of the match the Warriors seemed to be playing well and even had 14 point lead but as the match progressed the situation was reversed by the Thunder who started to recover and were able to score more points.
But this defeat seems much better than before because they only lost by aexperienci very small margin of 2 points and for some reason this season the Warriors are really experiencing bad phase because they are losing more often.
We can see in the table the Warriors match history that they always lose more often.
If conditions like this continue for long time without any improvements and changes, we can be sure that they will have difficulty occupying one of the top ranks in the Western region standings.

Yes, in terms of turnovers the Warriors committed 29 turnovers, which is the highest record this season.

It was a winnable game by the Warriors but I don't understand why Green fouled the game who gave them a heartache on their previous match up. Chet was really a cold blooded shooter, may it be in the 3 point area or in the FT line, he was sinking those 3 shots like there was no pressure at all, I guess he really deserve to win the ROY.

While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.

Green got mental collapsed on that sequence if he didn't do that maybe the result is different but it happens so there's nothing they can do but to get angry on why Green do such big mistake on that game.

For what we see on the performance brought up by Chet we can really say that he's more deserving to win the Rookie of than Wemby since he do much better performance than him. To unlucky for Wemby he can't get much support to his teammates that's why they are suffering from long losing streak and that can affect his ROTY run and I don't also think he can win that.

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December 09, 2023, 09:35:32 AM
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Another heart breaking loss by the Golden State Warriors. Again, Chet brought the game to the OT from silly fouls of Draymond and Chet was able to shoot all 3 Free Throws. The biggest story here is the Warriors turnovers, they own the best record this season with 29.

Turnovers! Damn it. Wiggins was not playing like he normally plays. He kept on losing the ball or turning it over in a bad way. It's only Steph Curry that had been shouldering their offense with Kuminga's help, and Klay Thompson.
Anyway, they have a bad track record of losing against the OKC Thunder, the last time it went to overtime it also ended the same way.
Yes, they could've won the game in regulation if only Draymond Green had not made that mistake of fouling Chet Holmgren. I know their plan was to foul so that it would only be a 2 free throw game but Chet knew what they would do and so he jumped up and tried to shoot the ball. If I were in that position, I would just let him shoot and because he is rushing, he might miss it.

I wasn't able to watch the full game, but from my analysis I say that the Warriors are going to lose that one because of so many turnovers and it seems that the Warriors are at lost when they face OKC. I don't know why it is like that the they are somewhat a very different them when their opponent is OKC.

Perhaps we can call that they are the kryptonite of the Warriors. Chet again another great performance and so his name is in front for the Rookie of the year. Maybe Steve Kerr will have to make another chances in their lineup in the next game.

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December 09, 2023, 09:50:45 AM
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I understand that it's hard to predict, but I suggest you follow your own intuition as this should be a close match.

In the last two games of the Lakers, they were -1.5 and -2, while the Pacers were both underdogs in their last two games. So most likely, the Lakers will be the slight favorites here. However, you can't count the Pacers out, as they are getting everyone involved. They are an exciting team to watch. Although I initially thought they were not consistent, beating the Celtics has changed my perspective. I've already told myself that they might advance to the Finals, so I wouldn't bet against them facing an experienced Lakers team, especially since the public is likely be backing the Lakers.
I'm guessing the Lakers will be favored by 3-4 points, but I would likely bet the Pacers and take the points. They seem to be playing good as the underdogs and have been really playing well as a team. If Haliburton is on point it will be a closer game than most think.

You are right on this. Odds are now available and the Lakers are currently -4. I think it's a fair line though, because although the Pacers had some great journey going to the championship, it's still the Lakers who are the better team looking at it's overall value since the experience is a big factor on this one.

Moneyline for Pacers, I have 2.58, this extra 58% is so attractive enough, so I'll take it.


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While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.

Yeah, the Spurs have already lost 16 games in a row. It's funny, but that's not even the worst result since the Pistons have already lost 19 games in a row. In any case, it was expected that the Spurs would be uncompetitive this regular season because their roster is too young and inexperienced. Coach Pop will probably need at least 2-3 more seasons to bring these kids up and make them at least a competitive team.

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While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.

Yeah, the Spurs have already lost 16 games in a row. It's funny, but that's not even the worst result since the Pistons have already lost 19 games in a row. In any case, it was expected that the Spurs would be uncompetitive this regular season because their roster is too young and inexperienced. Coach Pop will probably need at least 2-3 more seasons to bring these kids up and make them at least a competitive team.
Coach Pop has been in the league for decades already, and I believe that he knows what he's doing. He knows that the Spurs can't compete for the title with his current roster, thus he needs one more high draft pick that's why he's kind of experimenting this season. I also believe that he already said it to Wembanyama that's why he doesn't care about losing streaks whatsoever, but he only cares about his development and experience.

Chet can get that "Rookie of the Year" title, but we know that Wemby is a generational player who has a generational talent, and I believe that in 2 years, he will be the face of the team. What the Spurs need right now is another high draft pick aside from those young players out there, and they're good to go.

As for the Pistons, I don't know what's happening to them. Sorry for my words, but they're just a disgrace. I don't know what's the problem with this team TBH. Consecutive seasons that they're at the bottom, but they can't even have good players on draft night. They got Killian Hayes which is a bust and they also get James Wiseman which is also a bust. I guess it's good that they got Cunningham, and Ausar Thompson, but they will not develop on that team, and they should be traded to develop even more.

 
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December 09, 2023, 08:12:45 PM
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This defeat against Thunder was the umpteenth time because previously they also lost against Thunder.
At the start of the match the Warriors seemed to be playing well and even had 14 point lead but as the match progressed the situation was reversed by the Thunder who started to recover and were able to score more points.
But this defeat seems much better than before because they only lost by aexperienci very small margin of 2 points and for some reason this season the Warriors are really experiencing bad phase because they are losing more often.
We can see in the table the Warriors match history that they always lose more often.
If conditions like this continue for long time without any improvements and changes, we can be sure that they will have difficulty occupying one of the top ranks in the Western region standings.

Yes, in terms of turnovers the Warriors committed 29 turnovers, which is the highest record this season.
It was a winnable game by the Warriors but I don't understand why Green fouled the game who gave them a heartache on their previous match up. Chet was really a cold blooded shooter, may it be in the 3 point area or in the FT line, he was sinking those 3 shots like there was no pressure at all, I guess he really deserve to win the ROY.

While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.
Chet is definitely looking like the better of the duo right now, but I am sure that it's only for right now and it is not going to be sustained. The difference is that OKC is a better team overall than Spurs, and Wemby I think is better than Chet, but because Wemby doesn't have a team that is better, he is looking a lot worse.

When Spurs finally builds a better squad around Wemby, he will show the world that he is doing great and he will be a superstar, I think his ceiling is to get an MVP, he is capable of doing that one day when he gets better, it's his rookie season, Chet has been around for a while maybe still considered new, but he has been working out with NBA coaches and doctors to get to this point, not the same thing. So that is why we should be considering the situation a little different, it is not going to be all that easy and we may end up with a result that could definitely see Chet be better this season by the end, he already is right now.

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December 09, 2023, 11:53:56 PM
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I think there was a little attraction to the new cup system and American public was hesitant to comprehend this style, yet I can see some excitement. The problem is timing, in my opinion. It was too early in the season to do this tournament. And it was too quick. If this was organized after the all star break, it would have been more exciting. Teams would take it more serious too probably. And most of the teams will have better team chemistry later in the season, so the games would be better also. The football and basketball cups like this tournament happen in much more weeks and it is better.

I take this first tournament as experimental, they will gather information about a lot of things from ticket sales to broadcast ratings and upgrade it to a better version. I just don't think it will work this way in the long run. For example the floor decoration needs a serious overhaul. There were floors that were both tiring for the eyes and prevented us from picking the players clearly. They should fix these as a priority. As for the timing of the tournament, I don't think it's a problem that it's playing early. After the All-Star break, the teams are already playing motivated, and this tournament will help them take the games seriously even earlier in the season.

Less than 2 hours left for final game but I'll miss it. I need to wake up early so this is another timing problem for us Europeans. Smiley

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December 09, 2023, 11:59:37 PM
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It was quite the night yesterday and I think it was no surprise that Hornets managed to beat Raptors right ? Because the bookies were all over the Raptors victory but with a few minutes before the game the odds suddenly went down for Hornets from 2.9 around 2.2 and that is usually a great sign for that team.

Happy with my team Bulls to win and it was a morale boost victory that should bring another one against Bucks or the 4 winning streak for Bulls will come to an end but still happy with this run.

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December 10, 2023, 01:18:35 AM
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It has been kind of crazy seeing the Chicago Bulls payout so well without Zach Lavine.  For whatever reason their chemistry just seems to be so much better with him not out there on the floor. I’m not really sure what it is, or if it’s really more so just a coincidence..but it leads me to believe they’ll be pushing it trade Lavine harder than ever. Who’s getting him!?

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