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May 09, 2023, 09:29:41 PM |
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pawel7777 my friend you can blame those making such assumptions since the ops have abandoned this thread without replies to several hundred of questions and complaints here for a while now, light lord the official of this business have been online a couple of times but did not reply to anyone here on this thread and that has given room to so many speculations as to whether the casino is still active or the operators is not able to effectively run it the same way he runs this thread.
And from some couple of events that happened in the past with covid -19 which is the period since this casino issues started and have not been restored till now, with the long absence of the owner during that time, this and many more gave room for all the speculations around the owner health but no one has any information about his true condition and there is no time lightlord himself announce that he is not feeling well.
So we can choose what to believe now in this situation and know how to act with the casino going forward.
As it has been said before, they're not in any way obliged to be active on this forum. The official way of getting support is by submitting a support ticket on the site, which seems to be working fine (as far as I checked). Sure, they could've done better job in making it clear that this thread is no longer monitored (or they could've just locked it), but to draw a conclusion that the site is dead or abandoned by devs just because they're not active here is a bit of exaggeration. Same for LL not feeling well - not sure what exactly did he say, but the site has active support and the other owner, Zodiac, is reported to be active, so I see no issues here. Unless we're concerned that LL might have passed away without leaving anyone the access to the private keys? We know that if people or the community would really be having that curiosity then this type of discussion would really be a never ending one specially if we dont really getting any response came from the team or from LL itself which we wont definitely stop and been continuing to throw those speculations and assumptions on whats happening.Some are really just that exaggerated and some do really just go with the flow on the discussion itself but i do highly agree that its not their obligation on being or should really be active on their ANN thread because its up to their choice whether they would really be that active on answering or giving out responses on here or not. What matter the most on here is that their site is still paying and operational and speaking about LL's health then its none of our business.Its been long time that he had made out such announcement about health issues which it would be impossible that even up to this day he do still suffering on such condition. If there are some issues about accessing funds then it would be long time been talked about but it do really looks just fine.
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May 10, 2023, 11:55:44 AM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
The idea of having hot wallets is to not keep significant amounts in there, which means they could get drained when there's a big excess of withdrawals over deposits (e.g. when someone wins big and withdraws). So I wouldn't judge the site on the fact that hot wallets get empty from time to time, but you could judge them on how fast they respond to the situation. Have you contacted customer service? Any luck? If they have people can handle to look at the balance left on their hot wallet they will not get this repetitive complaints coming from different people since its really annoying to experience this especially if you really want to withdraw your funds because you need to withdraw immediately. This issue creates trouble especially on their reputation and it seems they still didn't fix that so for sure this can affect their trust score on the community then they could lose more costumer if this issue will not be solve by their management.
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May 10, 2023, 01:47:07 PM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
The idea of having hot wallets is to not keep significant amounts in there, which means they could get drained when there's a big excess of withdrawals over deposits (e.g. when someone wins big and withdraws). So I wouldn't judge the site on the fact that hot wallets get empty from time to time, but you could judge them on how fast they respond to the situation. Have you contacted customer service? Any luck? If they have people can handle to look at the balance left on their hot wallet they will not get this repetitive complaints coming from different people since its really annoying to experience this especially if you really want to withdraw your funds because you need to withdraw immediately. This issue creates trouble especially on their reputation and it seems they still didn't fix that so for sure this can affect their trust score on the community then they could lose more costumer if this issue will not be solved by their management. I don't think so about this issue, maybe this casino will be abandoned soon because they don't have any facilitator to maintain and to check their hot wallet if how much the remaining balance and if they can sustain the winning withdrawal of their customers. But anyways for their reputation if this kind of issues will happens for sure they will drop their reputation in to negative because if some players will encounter this issue they will leave a negative feedback.
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South Park
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May 10, 2023, 06:31:42 PM |
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If they have people can handle to look at the balance left on their hot wallet they will not get this repetitive complaints coming from different people since its really annoying to experience this especially if you really want to withdraw your funds because you need to withdraw immediately. This issue creates trouble especially on their reputation and it seems they still didn't fix that so for sure this can affect their trust score on the community then they could lose more costumer if this issue will not be solved by their management.
I don't think so about this issue, maybe this casino will be abandoned soon because they don't have any facilitator to maintain and to check their hot wallet if how much the remaining balance and if they can sustain the winning withdrawal of their customers. But anyways for their reputation if this kind of issues will happens for sure they will drop their reputation in to negative because if some players will encounter this issue they will leave a negative feedback. Such a thing has been a problem for years now and it seems there is no intention or any way for bitvest to correct this problem, and while some gamblers are very understanding and they do not care as long as they eventually get paid, there are many gamblers out there which want to receive their money immediately when they ask for a withdrawal, and such a delay is going to make them to reconsider their decision to gamble at this casino ever again.
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Wiwo
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May 10, 2023, 06:35:48 PM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with Bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
This is bad to hear, I just can imagine after playing and winning at a casino and the point of withdrawal you are told that the liquidity pool is empty to pay your winning, thos is the worst experience for anyone and this situation has been consistent on this casino since the owner chooses to run the casino manually. Things are changing and if Lighdlord continues this way, it won't take long before the casino will close down due to no patronage unless for his family and friends.
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May 11, 2023, 08:04:59 PM |
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The idea of having hot wallets is to not keep significant amounts in there, which means they could get drained when there's a big excess of withdrawals over deposits (e.g. when someone wins big and withdraws). So I wouldn't judge the site on the fact that hot wallets get empty from time to time, but you could judge them on how fast they respond to the situation. Have you contacted customer service? Any luck?
If they have people can handle to look at the balance left on their hot wallet they will not get this repetitive complaints coming from different people since its really annoying to experience this especially if you really want to withdraw your funds because you need to withdraw immediately. This issue creates trouble especially on their reputation and it seems they still didn't fix that so for sure this can affect their trust score on the community then they could lose more costumer if this issue will not be solve by their management. I agree that constant issues with hot wallets being empty is not a good sign and indicates that maybe Bitvest should revise their approach and maybe increase the level of hot wallet balances. All I was saying is that occasional issues with empty hot wallets are somewhat normal and are inevitable for that type of business. Let's remember there are probably only 1-2 people with wallet access and they can't be around 24/7 to replenish them immediately. So it all boils down to how often such issues occur really.
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May 11, 2023, 08:12:13 PM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with Bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
This is bad to hear, I just can imagine after playing and winning at a casino and the point of withdrawal you are told that the liquidity pool is empty to pay your winning, thos is the worst experience for anyone and this situation has been consistent on this casino since the owner chooses to run the casino manually. Things are changing and if Lighdlord continues this way, it won't take long before the casino will close down due to no patronage unless for his family and friends. To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
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Wiwo
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May 11, 2023, 08:44:07 PM |
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To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
The fact that thos casino used to be one of the most popular casinos we have around back then make it easy to attract newbies who are not informed on the casino current situation with thos casino and since the site is still up and running their make straight away the decision to make deposits and play on the casino. But the problem will start when they want to make withdrawals from their accounts since the hot wallet is constantly empty and if lightlord wants to refill it he does that with a small amount.
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May 11, 2023, 08:57:05 PM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with Bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
This is bad to hear, I just can imagine after playing and winning at a casino and the point of withdrawal you are told that the liquidity pool is empty to pay your winning, thos is the worst experience for anyone and this situation has been consistent on this casino since the owner chooses to run the casino manually. Things are changing and if Lighdlord continues this way, it won't take long before the casino will close down due to no patronage unless for his family and friends. To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying. How do you know that withdrawal is been pending out? There are people who do actually play on the site doesnt experience out this problem. How did you know that their support isnt responding? Some people been saying that it do just work fine and still that making out some response. Bare in mind that having no activity or response on their ANN thread doesnt mean that it would be similarly be reflecting out into their website. Most cases people do really love to attach things and would be making out some conclusions without having that actual dealing or experience on what they do have current now. Lightlords absence doesnt mean that it is really over for Bitvest. They are still operation and there are still rolls or bets had been made out which it significantly showing that it is really just working fine despite of its owners absence or whatsoever.
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May 11, 2023, 09:08:25 PM |
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How do you know that withdrawal is been pending out? There are people who do actually play on the site doesnt experience out this problem. How did you know that their support isnt responding? Some people been saying that it do just work fine and still that making out some response.
I did not visit the site to test whether or not their support is responding and activities running well or not on the casino, my comment os based on the reposrts we have read here in the forum, no about the fact that not being active on the ANN thread doesn't mean anything as long as the support are getting issues resolved, by that is not the case in this situation as one of the compliant gotten here in the forum was as a result of non respond from the support after the player first contacted them. I don't really take ANN activities serious and I don't judge the reputation of a. Casino base on their activities here in the ANN thread, but when both the ANN thread and online supports are inactive its then becomes obvious that something is not right with the casino. I just visited the site and truly Bedvist is still up and running and I can see activities are running smoothly, it's not a must that Lightlord must appear here, but then resolving some issues as it borders on reputation need some urgent personal appearance of a project owner.
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To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
The fact that thos casino used to be one of the most popular casinos we have around back then make it easy to attract newbies who are not informed on the casino current situation with thos casino and since the site is still up and running their make straight away the decision to make deposits and play on the casino. But the problem will start when they want to make withdrawals from their accounts since the hot wallet is constantly empty and if lightlord wants to refill it he does that with a small amount. Looking at how Bitvest and 777coin running now? I believe that LL had already losing the business interest and maybe being busy to other form of profiteering now(or we don't know if he is running another gambling site behind our knowledge) as these sites are already burned years back from this same issues . though the wallets are being filled still but it took time before happening. sad to see that casino like these that once being biggest are now drowning from withdrawal issues.
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May 12, 2023, 04:03:21 AM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with Bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
This is bad to hear, I just can imagine after playing and winning at a casino and the point of withdrawal you are told that the liquidity pool is empty to pay your winning, thos is the worst experience for anyone and this situation has been consistent on this casino since the owner chooses to run the casino manually. Things are changing and if Lighdlord continues this way, it won't take long before the casino will close down due to no patronage unless for his family and friends. To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying. How do you know that withdrawal is been pending out? There are people who do actually play on the site doesnt experience out this problem. How did you know that their support isnt responding? Some people been saying that it do just work fine and still that making out some response. Bare in mind that having no activity or response on their ANN thread doesnt mean that it would be similarly be reflecting out into their website. Most cases people do really love to attach things and would be making out some conclusions without having that actual dealing or experience on what they do have current now. Lightlords absence doesnt mean that it is really over for Bitvest. They are still operation and there are still rolls or bets had been made out which it significantly showing that it is really just working fine despite of its owners absence or whatsoever. there is no need for Him to answer you mate , because the post on top that you quoted already mentioned that their Hot Wallet is again emptied , meaning once again the problem or issues from bitvest is still the same , If I remember this right , this has been the problem same as how lightlord is not filling the payments for the campaign participants reason why he has been tagged for showing no concern about His obligation , and yes this is it again. I must know this because once I have worked with 777coin for years and yes , my experience about payment is not that good. so this means His absence here in forum really affect how he managed the sites. because we can see that players mostly posts here once they have bad experiences in any sites that has active thread here in bitcointalk.
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May 12, 2023, 08:41:34 PM |
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In terms of empty hot wallets for Litecoin, if this chart from https://dicesites.com/bitvest/ltc is correct (and it's possible it isn't as some other stats look odd) it looks like there was some significant divestment (or maybe someone has just won big and drained the fund) that could result in hot wallet getting empty. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F12%2FCapture0a946ee80398b461.png&t=665&c=kQ12pVUMUNLWiQ) Still, that's not much of an excuse for admins to keep it empty for too long. But then again, we don't know if the guy complaining actually filed a support ticket and if the issue is resolved now.
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May 12, 2023, 09:52:24 PM |
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LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.
i am done with Bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets
This is bad to hear, I just can imagine after playing and winning at a casino and the point of withdrawal you are told that the liquidity pool is empty to pay your winning, thos is the worst experience for anyone and this situation has been consistent on this casino since the owner chooses to run the casino manually. Things are changing and if Lighdlord continues this way, it won't take long before the casino will close down due to no patronage unless for his family and friends. To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying. How do you know that withdrawal is been pending out? There are people who do actually play on the site doesnt experience out this problem. How did you know that their support isnt responding? Some people been saying that it do just work fine and still that making out some response. Bare in mind that having no activity or response on their ANN thread doesnt mean that it would be similarly be reflecting out into their website. Most cases people do really love to attach things and would be making out some conclusions without having that actual dealing or experience on what they do have current now. Lightlords absence doesnt mean that it is really over for Bitvest. They are still operation and there are still rolls or bets had been made out which it significantly showing that it is really just working fine despite of its owners absence or whatsoever. there is no need for Him to answer you mate , because the post on top that you quoted already mentioned that their Hot Wallet is again emptied , meaning once again the problem or issues from bitvest is still the same , If I remember this right , this has been the problem same as how lightlord is not filling the payments for the campaign participants reason why he has been tagged for showing no concern about His obligation , and yes this is it again. I must know this because once I have worked with 777coin for years and yes , my experience about payment is not that good. so this means His absence here in forum really affect how he managed the sites. because we can see that players mostly posts here once they have bad experiences in any sites that has active thread here in bitcointalk. Arent that signature payment issue hasnt been resolved it yet? Im once a signature participant of Bitvest but only just a few weeks and didnt have any problems but well those are in that early years where Bitvest and LL is really that still responsive on this forum. Im much aware about on what happened on when it comes to the point where even paying up their marketers or signature participants had been delayed. I wasnt aware if its been resolved or not, if ever there's still pending payments then it does really shows up some bad behavior or affecting out their reputation in speaking about on how legit their business would be. Now that wallets are starting to get emptied then people who do play on that specific coin should really be stopping on playing on such coin specially if the balance is depleting. THere's no point on making out some complaints if their support system doesnt really even that giving some response.
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May 13, 2023, 09:03:24 AM |
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Now that wallets are starting to get emptied then people who do play on that specific coin should really be stopping on playing on such coin specially if the balance is depleting. THere's no point on making out some complaints if their support system doesnt really even that giving some response.
What are you basing this on? It's not like we see any massive wave of complaints in this thread. It's literally one guy venting about one hot wallet for one altcoin (Litecoin) and all of a sudden we have a bunch of posters pilling in with the "sky is falling" narrative. What made you think that more than one hot wallets are empty and that their customer service is non-responsive?
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May 13, 2023, 05:13:01 PM |
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To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site. I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine. Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players).
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To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site. I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine. Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players). agree with you, bitvest has loyal players who are not easy to move to other gambling sites because they already feel comfortable playing at bitvest, even though I haven't been playing at bitvest for a long time but I have never had the slightest problem playing there
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To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site. I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine. Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players). agree with you, bitvest has loyal players who are not easy to move to other gambling sites because they already feel comfortable playing at bitvest, even though I haven't been playing at bitvest for a long time but I have never had the slightest problem playing there We do know that there are indeed loyal players of a certain gambling site on which you would really be tending to stick as long you do able to find yourself that comfortable and it do really meets up your expectation or simply your needs on gambling leisure on which it would really be just that normal on having that kind of approach on where you would be staying up despite of lots of options or offerings currently on the market. As for Bitvest which this had been known to be a long time running casino, its understandable that design or UI might really be that outdated which is the fact normal. People been making out some discussions about its owner who hadnt been that active on their own ANN thread. Wait? Is this really an issue to put focused on?
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To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding.. And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.
Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site. I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine. Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players). agree with you, bitvest has loyal players who are not easy to move to other gambling sites because they already feel comfortable playing at bitvest, even though I haven't been playing at bitvest for a long time but I have never had the slightest problem playing there We do know that there are indeed loyal players of a certain gambling site on which you would really be tending to stick as long you do able to find yourself that comfortable and it do really meets up your expectation or simply your needs on gambling leisure on which it would really be just that normal on having that kind of approach on where you would be staying up despite of lots of options or offerings currently on the market. As for Bitvest which this had been known to be a long time running casino, its understandable that design or UI might really be that outdated which is the fact normal. People been making out some discussions about its owner who hadnt been that active on their own ANN thread. Wait? Is this really an issue to put focused on? Well, you are right, the absence of the owner of bitvest on this thread (his own thread) is not really an issue to focus on though, but I just feel that a casino that very much depended on this forum for publicity by its owner, and suddenly, the owner disappears with no statement of any kind, or putting another in charge to continue to maintain the thread, I feel that such casino could be a timed bomb waiting to explode. What if by tomorrow, the casino website is no longer accessible to everyone, and you have money in there, who are you going to reach out to to know what's going on.?
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Well, you are right, the absence of the owner of bitvest on this thread (his own thread) is not really an issue to focus on though, but I just feel that a casino that very much depended on this forum for publicity by its owner, and suddenly, the owner disappears with no statement of any kind, or putting another in charge to continue to maintain the thread, I feel that such casino could be a timed bomb waiting to explode. What if by tomorrow, the casino website is no longer accessible to everyone, and you have money in there, who are you going to reach out to to know what's going on.?
If you do have the feel on having no security or having no assurance in about on a particular site just because you cant really be able to see any activity or any responses came from them, then you could always have the option or choice to make on which you could really just simply transfer on something that do response way more better and do make out some good marketing and other stuff on which you would really be having the feeling of being secured or somewhat safety on which all of these things would really be definitely be seen into those top known sites as of this moment in the market today. We know that it isnt really that Bitvest is currently existing. You do always have the choice on making so. If you do see that they arent that responsive or not much that activity then you could just simply jump off ship and find or look for another one.
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