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[scryptr]

I looked over your script and I noticed that yescrypt isn't there.  I was wondering if you had plans to add that in as it's paying really well for CPU mining at the moment?

Yesscrypt doesn't do #@$%# on a GPU.... well, nvidia anyways...   or hashrate is seriously under-profit compared to lets say X11.
I have found that yesscrypt is best on the new E-series cpu's with insane amounts of cores at higher freq...  But;  when I normalized on my I7 and my xeon X5650/X5365 machines;  Neoscrypt/argon2 were always preferred above all else.

Take the profitability in the corner with a grain of salt.  relate non-gpu algos with non-gpu algos only.  (Yesscrypt, m7m, argon2, neoscrypt)....   But the normalizations are magnatudes different than each other:

My Dual Xeon X5365 SLAED machine had these values [the values were scaled up a little in hashrate between it and the X5650 machine but no deviance same ratio of hash diff]:
argon2=   12.1 Kh/s 0.0121Mh
yescrypt=   1.05 Kh/s 0.00105Mh
neoscrypt=   23.1 Kh/s 0.0231Mh
So those MH values are what you multiply the current profitability estimate with that's displayed in the "Pool Status" pane on the site. (which [as I understand] is based on things like:  exchange price, pool luck, BTC exchange price, and hashrate/miners, etc)  That yescrype value is kind-of a false number... see why?  it's a thousandth, when the other's are 10-20x more when calculated to their respective lower number.   Yescrypt has been on the top since it first was added.   Only random exchange pricing causes one algo to take the cake, but that basically never happens.

so......



 for multi CPU profit switching it would look like this:

Code:

:start
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt=0.0231,argon2=0.0121,yescrypt=0.00105,stats
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a argon2 -o stratum+tcp://argon2.mine.zpool.ca:4234 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt=0.0231,argon2=0.0121,yescrypt=0.00105,stats
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a yescrypt -o stratum+tcp://yescrypt.mine.zpool.ca:6233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt=0.0231,argon2=0.0121,yescrypt=0.00105,stats
goto start

Now;  my batch will be modified at some point to do it for the cpu algos, but since there's only 3 I can use I leave it in the old "round robin" config. (haven't yet found a good working copy of m7m cpuminer for xeons and first gen i7's so its not here).  I can trim up the batch for this sometime if people think its necessary..

*edit* but yes;  You can run profit switching between cpu and GPU algos independently.

Ok, so you got me interested in something.  When you posted up your switching algo, it was your password switches that caught my attention.  What are the numbers next to each of the algorithms and how do you determine what they are or should be?  My switch setup is very basic in that it only lists the algo itself but no numbers afterwards.  Am I assuming correctly that this has something to do with the weighting of the algos themselves or is there something else here that I should be looking at?

Also, and I'm just sayin', it would be WONDERFUL if you incorporated CPU switching into your batch file.  Kind of a way to keep it all together and nice and tidy. 

CPU MINING IS POINT AND SET--

A CPU on its own will earn a few pennies a day.  Set it on your prefered algo and let your GPU do the switching.  The numbers you are asking about are likely hash rates, or normalization factors.  The pool software selects the best paying algo at the moment based on those numbers.       --scryptr

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[JaredKaragen]

OK....  I've put it off long enough....  Added link to this post in my batch file post as well.

How to "Normalize" your GPU/CPU for optimal profit switching
1.) create a batch file Similar to this:

Code:

:start
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt,stats
goto start
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a argon2 -o stratum+tcp://argon2.mine.zpool.ca:4234 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,argon2,stats
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a yescrypt -o stratum+tcp://yescrypt.mine.zpool.ca:6233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,yescrypt,stats

2.) Run it.  Let it hash for 3-5 min.  Record the average hashrate that you are getting after this amount of time for the neoscrypt algo.

3.) Modify the batch file similar to this:

Code:

:start
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a argon2 -o stratum+tcp://argon2.mine.zpool.ca:4234 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,argon2,stats
goto start
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a yescrypt -o stratum+tcp://yescrypt.mine.zpool.ca:6233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,yescrypt,stats
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt,stats

4.) Run it.  Let it hash for 3-5 min.  Record average hashrate for the argon2 algo as you did before.

5.) For the sake of being consistent the next algo (and so-on through all algorithms available for CPU/GPU) Which in this case would be yescrypt:

Code:

:start
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a yescrypt -o stratum+tcp://yescrypt.mine.zpool.ca:6233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,yescrypt,stats
goto start
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt,stats
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a argon2 -o stratum+tcp://argon2.mine.zpool.ca:4234 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,argon2,stats

6.) Run it.  Let it hash for 3-5 min.  Record average hashrate as you did before.

7.) Now you have a list of algos and their hashrates.  The pool calculates the profitability number [generally] on a megahash (Mh) basis.  So our values need to be converted to MH from Kh or H/S.  So here's my values:
argon2=   12.1 Kh/s 0.0121Mh
yescrypt=   1.05 Kh/s 0.00105Mh
neoscrypt=   23.1 Kh/s 0.0231Mh

8.) In the password string for your round-robin of algos, you input the normalization value onto the identifier of what algos are mining like this:

Code:

:start
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt=0.0121,argon2=0.00105,yescrypt=0.0231,stats
cpuminer-win64-generic.exe -r 0 -a argon2 -o stratum+tcp://argon2.mine.zpool.ca:4234 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt=0.0121,argon2=0.00105,yescrypt=0.0231,stats
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a yescrypt -o stratum+tcp://yescrypt.mine.zpool.ca:6233 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920,c=BTC,neoscrypt=0.0121,argon2=0.00105,yescrypt=0.0231,stats
goto start

NOTE: This is not necessary on a minercontrol config because you are using minercontrol to do the calculations for you and thus it doesn't rely on zPool's stratum disconnect to force the algo change to the miner unobtrusively and rather ingeniously.

In my batch you would simply modify my code above to suit your miner appname / algo name and run each one at a time... then edit this line in the batch to your numbers.   Note:  Blake algos are in Gh/s..  It should be easy to relate your results scaled over mine in the batch already.

Code:

SET PASS=%ID%c=BTC,x17=5.2,nist5=8.0,x11evo=7.7,sib=1.1,x13=6.8,x14=7.0,x15=5.6,x11=8.2,qubit=12.5,lyra2v2=22.0,blakecoin=1.4,blake2s=1.2,stats

**LMK if I made any typos**

[Percivul]

Ahhhh!  Ok, that makes much more sense.  And I assume that based on the numbers you get will help to have the script point the correct miner at the correct algorithm for the purposes of eeking out the best performance you have for your hardware, right?

Ok, so the numbers after the algo (argon=0.000xxx) is really just you telling the miner what the average hash rate is for your box specifically.  Correct?

[berron]

Very  good post, JK, but I think that you can also use kH or use one of the algos as normalization factor considering its value as 1 and dividing all the rest by it.
Can  you confirm, crackfoo??

[JaredKaragen]

Very  good post, JK, but I think that you can also use kH or use one of the algos as normalization factor considering its value as 1 and dividing all the rest by it.
Can  you confirm, crackfoo??

I was just keeping it simple.  feel free to move the decimal, but if the pool has the ability in the future to understand hashrate per connection in this way and take some sort of action;  it would be nice if it were a uniform known ratio.

[scryptr]

Very  good post, JK, but I think that you can also use kH or use one of the algos as normalization factor considering its value as 1 and dividing all the rest by it.
Can  you confirm, crackfoo??

YOU CAN SET ONE ALGO EQUAL TO ONE (1) --

For example, a miner could set X11 hashrate as 1 unit (X11=1), and divide all other hashrates by the X11 acual hashrate.  This is called normalization, and is high school math.  X11/X11 = 1, X13/X11 = ~3/5, and so forth.  Then, the fractions resulting are used instead of flat hashrates, but the result is the same.

Crackfoo is at summer camp.       --scryptr

[scryptr]

Crackfoo is at summer camp.       --scryptr

so he's awol, that explains.
i hoped he'd make some steps after my post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260863.msg15925693#msg15925693

crackfoo, wake up! time to gray out LYB, it's been delisted

HE'LL MAKE A POTHOLDER JUST FOR YOU--

And, I was speaking of "Flat Hash Rate" in my former post, meaning the same as you.       --scryptr

[sidroast]

Crackfoo is at summer camp.       --scryptr

so he's awol, that explains.
i hoped he'd make some steps after my post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260863.msg15925693#msg15925693

crackfoo, wake up! time to gray out LYB, it's been delisted

Should Stratis be delisted too? It's gone pure POS.

[ComputerGenie]

crackfoo, wake up! time to gray out LYB, it's been delisted

All of the crapcoins of the world should unite and create their own exchange (CCX - Crap Coin eXchange).

[joblo]

I DID find that there is a way to get the Intel stuff to mine (albeit pretty slowly) so it's not really doing much. 

Please share.

What I did was get BFGMiner setup and running.  It didn't see the GPU at first but after a scan, it found it.  Again, the hash rates were slow but it did seem to work.  I have it running on a work PC so if you need more specific info, I'll have to get it from work tomorrow.

Bear in mind that you have to be using the Intel drivers AND you need to be certain that it supports OpenCL 1.2 or greater or it won't work at all.

Thanks. I'm curious about hashrates. I expect it to be low compared to a GPU but how does it compare to a CPU?
Do you have a link to download bfgminer? Source would be nice.

[edonkey]

For those using the Stratehm stratum proxy and pointing at zpool, what values are you using for the poolConnectionRetryDelay and poolReconnectStabilityPeriod parameters?

I lifted the following values from someone else's example:

  "poolConnectionRetryDelay" : 15,
  "poolReconnectStabilityPeriod" : 30,

As mentioned earlier, I'm seeing lots of disconnects and reconnects in the Stratehm log (about 40 a day, as mentioned before). I figure that this is "normal" although it's a bit flaky.

If I keep the above values, it means that for about 20 minutes each day my miners will be pointing at next failover pool.

Would it make more sense to shorten the above timers so that the reconnect to zpool happens faster and less time is spent on the failover pool?

[Percivul]

Hey guys, I hate to keep being a novice but I gotta ask questions to get caught up to you all.

Ok, so I've been looking at Miner Control and it seems like it could be really powerful to use.  Problem is that (from what I can see) it more or less wants you to already know what you're doing.
So, a few questions (and yes, I've been looking around for the answers)...

1st.  How do you bloody well use the thing?  It doesn't seem to have any miner attached to it and I can't tell what it's looking for in order to get the right ones.
2nd.  I dove into the .conf file in an effort to kinda figure out how to setup a mining pool with ZPool but alas, I don't think I've quite got it.  So, does anyone have one they could post?
3rd.  What miner(s) would it be looking for?  I don't mind hunting them down but since I can't tell what it's looking for, that doesn't really help me. 

As always, thanks to you guys for putting up with my noobishness.

[scryptr]

Hey guys, I hate to keep being a novice but I gotta ask questions to get caught up to you all.

Ok, so I've been looking at Miner Control and it seems like it could be really powerful to use.  Problem is that (from what I can see) it more or less wants you to already know what you're doing.
So, a few questions (and yes, I've been looking around for the answers)...

1st.  How do you bloody well use the thing?  It doesn't seem to have any miner attached to it and I can't tell what it's looking for in order to get the right ones.
2nd.  I dove into the .conf file in an effort to kinda figure out how to setup a mining pool with ZPool but alas, I don't think I've quite got it.  So, does anyone have one they could post?
3rd.  What miner(s) would it be looking for?  I don't mind hunting them down but since I can't tell what it's looking for, that doesn't really help me.  

As always, thanks to you guys for putting up with my noobishness.

MINERCONTROL CONFIGURATION--

I wrote a basic configuration file for MinerControl and posted in this thread around the 4th of July.  LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260863.msg15464974#msg15464974  Basically, I placed several versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, naming each one differently.  "MinerControl.exe", when launched, will perform much the same duties as JaredKaragen's batch file, switching between algos at different pools.  There is the advantage of MinerControl, it can handle the different pool Application Programming Interfaces (API) used for auto-switching.  JK's batch file will only work on Zpool.  MinerControl will also handle SGminer and AMD cards, etc.

You should read the MinerControl thread.  LINK:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769239.msg8669925#msg8669925  There are fewer auto-switching pools than when MinerControl was developed.  Zpool is the only Yiimp-style pool now running that allows auto-switching.  The original was called YAAMP.

So, if you set one or more versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, and there are no typos in your configuration file, click on MinerControl, and it will run for days, with ststistics and etc..  You should read up first, though, so that you can understand the differences between CCminer versions, and how to handle the configuration file for personal changes.       --scryptr

[Percivul]

Hey guys, I hate to keep being a novice but I gotta ask questions to get caught up to you all.

Ok, so I've been looking at Miner Control and it seems like it could be really powerful to use.  Problem is that (from what I can see) it more or less wants you to already know what you're doing.
So, a few questions (and yes, I've been looking around for the answers)...

1st.  How do you bloody well use the thing?  It doesn't seem to have any miner attached to it and I can't tell what it's looking for in order to get the right ones.
2nd.  I dove into the .conf file in an effort to kinda figure out how to setup a mining pool with ZPool but alas, I don't think I've quite got it.  So, does anyone have one they could post?
3rd.  What miner(s) would it be looking for?  I don't mind hunting them down but since I can't tell what it's looking for, that doesn't really help me.  

As always, thanks to you guys for putting up with my noobishness.

MINERCONTROL CONFIGURATION--

I wrote a basic configuration file for MinerControl and posted in this thread around the 4th of July.  LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260863.msg15464974#msg15464974  Basically, I placed several versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, naming each one differently.  "MinerControl.exe", when launched, will perform much the same duties as JaredKaragen's batch file, switching between algos at different pools.  There is the advantage of MinerControl, it can handle the different pool Application Programming Interfaces (API) used for auto-switching.  JK's batch file will only work on Zpool.  MinerControl will also handle SGminer and AMD cards, etc.

You should read the MinerControl thread.  LINK:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769239.msg8669925#msg8669925  There are fewer auto-switching pools than when MinerControl was developed.  Zpool is the only Yiimp-style pool now running that allows auto-switching.  The original was called YAAMP.

So, if you set one or more versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, and there are no typos in your configuration file, click on MinerControl, and it will run for days, with ststistics and etc..  You should read up first, though, so that you can understand the differences between CCminer versions, and how to handle the configuration file for personal changes.       --scryptr

Oh I deffinitely will do some reading.  Like I said, I hate to keep asking questions but my way of giving back is that while I'm doing this, I'm also writing a "noobs guide" on how to get started, what to setup, what it all means, etc...  Hopefully in the future when someone asks you guys what to do, you'll be able to just point them to my guide and be done with it.  

Thanks for the info, Scryptr.

Ok, so I installed ccminer in the minercontrol directory, adjusted for my address and tried running it as is.  It didn't do anything but sit there.  I copied your conf file from the link you put up but I'm going to guess that since the address listed is mine.zpool.ca, it might be out of date???  From what I understand, the mining addresses are now separated based on the algo being used.  Is that correct?

[scryptr]

Hey guys, I hate to keep being a novice but I gotta ask questions to get caught up to you all.

Ok, so I've been looking at Miner Control and it seems like it could be really powerful to use.  Problem is that (from what I can see) it more or less wants you to already know what you're doing.
So, a few questions (and yes, I've been looking around for the answers)...

1st.  How do you bloody well use the thing?  It doesn't seem to have any miner attached to it and I can't tell what it's looking for in order to get the right ones.
2nd.  I dove into the .conf file in an effort to kinda figure out how to setup a mining pool with ZPool but alas, I don't think I've quite got it.  So, does anyone have one they could post?
3rd.  What miner(s) would it be looking for?  I don't mind hunting them down but since I can't tell what it's looking for, that doesn't really help me.  

As always, thanks to you guys for putting up with my noobishness.

MINERCONTROL CONFIGURATION--

I wrote a basic configuration file for MinerControl and posted in this thread around the 4th of July.  LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260863.msg15464974#msg15464974  Basically, I placed several versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, naming each one differently.  "MinerControl.exe", when launched, will perform much the same duties as JaredKaragen's batch file, switching between algos at different pools.  There is the advantage of MinerControl, it can handle the different pool Application Programming Interfaces (API) used for auto-switching.  JK's batch file will only work on Zpool.  MinerControl will also handle SGminer and AMD cards, etc.

You should read the MinerControl thread.  LINK:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769239.msg8669925#msg8669925  There are fewer auto-switching pools than when MinerControl was developed.  Zpool is the only Yiimp-style pool now running that allows auto-switching.  The original was called YAAMP.

So, if you set one or more versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, and there are no typos in your configuration file, click on MinerControl, and it will run for days, with ststistics and etc..  You should read up first, though, so that you can understand the differences between CCminer versions, and how to handle the configuration file for personal changes.       --scryptr

Oh I deffinitely will do some reading.  Like I said, I hate to keep asking questions but my way of giving back is that while I'm doing this, I'm also writing a "noobs guide" on how to get started, what to setup, what it all means, etc...  Hopefully in the future when someone asks you guys what to do, you'll be able to just point them to my guide and be done with it.  

Thanks for the info, Scryptr.

Ok, so I installed ccminer in the minercontrol directory, adjusted for my address and tried running it as is.  It didn't do anything but sit there.  I copied your conf file from the link you put up but I'm going to guess that since the address listed is mine.zpool.ca, it might be out of date???  From what I understand, the mining addresses are now separated based on the algo being used.  Is that correct?

PORT FORWARDING SHOULD STILL BE IN PLACE--

It should work.  You need to read.  It took me about 24 hrs work to figure out how to write a very basic configuration file for MinerControl, starting from scratch..  You will need to read and study the material that I linked.  As much as you are friendly, you need to "swim on your own"..  I have also written a super-basic batch file, mutch simpler than JK's, and it may be easier to understand.  Practice makes perfect, just practice.       --scryptr

[Percivul]

Hey guys, I hate to keep being a novice but I gotta ask questions to get caught up to you all.

Ok, so I've been looking at Miner Control and it seems like it could be really powerful to use.  Problem is that (from what I can see) it more or less wants you to already know what you're doing.
So, a few questions (and yes, I've been looking around for the answers)...

1st.  How do you bloody well use the thing?  It doesn't seem to have any miner attached to it and I can't tell what it's looking for in order to get the right ones.
2nd.  I dove into the .conf file in an effort to kinda figure out how to setup a mining pool with ZPool but alas, I don't think I've quite got it.  So, does anyone have one they could post?
3rd.  What miner(s) would it be looking for?  I don't mind hunting them down but since I can't tell what it's looking for, that doesn't really help me.  

As always, thanks to you guys for putting up with my noobishness.

MINERCONTROL CONFIGURATION--

I wrote a basic configuration file for MinerControl and posted in this thread around the 4th of July.  LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260863.msg15464974#msg15464974  Basically, I placed several versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, naming each one differently.  "MinerControl.exe", when launched, will perform much the same duties as JaredKaragen's batch file, switching between algos at different pools.  There is the advantage of MinerControl, it can handle the different pool Application Programming Interfaces (API) used for auto-switching.  JK's batch file will only work on Zpool.  MinerControl will also handle SGminer and AMD cards, etc.

You should read the MinerControl thread.  LINK:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769239.msg8669925#msg8669925  There are fewer auto-switching pools than when MinerControl was developed.  Zpool is the only Yiimp-style pool now running that allows auto-switching.  The original was called YAAMP.

So, if you set one or more versions of CCminer in the same directory as MinerControl, and there are no typos in your configuration file, click on MinerControl, and it will run for days, with ststistics and etc..  You should read up first, though, so that you can understand the differences between CCminer versions, and how to handle the configuration file for personal changes.       --scryptr

Oh I deffinitely will do some reading.  Like I said, I hate to keep asking questions but my way of giving back is that while I'm doing this, I'm also writing a "noobs guide" on how to get started, what to setup, what it all means, etc...  Hopefully in the future when someone asks you guys what to do, you'll be able to just point them to my guide and be done with it.  

Thanks for the info, Scryptr.

Ok, so I installed ccminer in the minercontrol directory, adjusted for my address and tried running it as is.  It didn't do anything but sit there.  I copied your conf file from the link you put up but I'm going to guess that since the address listed is mine.zpool.ca, it might be out of date???  From what I understand, the mining addresses are now separated based on the algo being used.  Is that correct?

PORT FORWARDING SHOULD STILL BE IN PLACE--

It should work.  You need to read.  It took me about 24 hrs work to figure out how to write a very basic configuration file for MinerControl, starting from scratch..  You will need to read and study the material that I linked.  As much as you are friendly, you need to "swim on your own"..  I have also written a super-basic batch file, mutch simpler than JK's, and it may be easier to understand.  Practice makes perfect, just practice.       --scryptr

I don't disagree that I need to be on my own with this, and I'm doing my best to get there.  Please don't misunderstand when I ask questions, even if they seem mundane.  I ask because I often have looked things over but it doesn't always make sense to me.  I'm trying to get it to make sense and love those "ah ha" moments I get, but you have to understand that there is a great deal of this that is super new to me.

Still, I'll wade further into the pool and see if I can get it to make a bit more sense.

Thanks again.

[Spiffy_1]

I tried to get minercontrol to work for 3 days before I simply gave up.  Between one simple error hardcrashing the scrypt, and having to create a json file from scratch with very little relevant pool guidelines, it was too much for me.  If you can do it more power to you, but jk's scrypt works well for me so I leave it alone as much as possible.  Minus a few tweaks of course.

[jkminkov]

you need MinerControl only if you want to use more than one pool - zpool, yiimp, nicehash, solo mining, other pool with handmade price per MH(tricky stuff)*

edit: * - I've placed a joker for tricky stuff in MC thread, feel free to expand, say some add SIA coin pool or Monero, or something else, you just have to figure out how to convert custom pool api into yaamp compatible api.

[Percivul]

I tried to get minercontrol to work for 3 days before I simply gave up.  Between one simple error hardcrashing the scrypt, and having to create a json file from scratch with very little relevant pool guidelines, it was too much for me.  If you can do it more power to you, but jk's scrypt works well for me so I leave it alone as much as possible.  Minus a few tweaks of course.

I got it to kinda work.  I ended up taking Scryptr's post of his config file and removing the parts of it in the switches area that were causing problems.  For example, ccminer 1.8 doesn't actually have a -C switch and that was causing the miner to close before it could hash anything.  Once I took that switch out, it started up and began hashing.

Also, since I have ATI at work and NVidia at home, I'm starting to think it's going to be a hassle to use it since it doesn't really come with any instructions.  As I've said many times in the forums, there IS a ton of info but many times you get the sense that you're just "supposed to already" know how certain things work.  It's not a big deal as it does tend to weed out those who aren't serious about learning, but it wouldn't hurt to have a newcomers guide for some of this.  Incidentally, that's what I'm building as I go.

[scryptr]

I tried to get minercontrol to work for 3 days before I simply gave up.  Between one simple error hardcrashing the scrypt, and having to create a json file from scratch with very little relevant pool guidelines, it was too much for me.  If you can do it more power to you, but jk's scrypt works well for me so I leave it alone as much as possible.  Minus a few tweaks of course.

I got it to kinda work.  I ended up taking Scryptr's post of his config file and removing the parts of it in the switches area that were causing problems.  For example, ccminer 1.8 doesn't actually have a -C switch and that was causing the miner to close before it could hash anything.  Once I took that switch out, it started up and began hashing.

Also, since I have ATI at work and NVidia at home, I'm starting to think it's going to be a hassle to use it since it doesn't really come with any instructions.  As I've said many times in the forums, there IS a ton of info but many times you get the sense that you're just "supposed to already" know how certain things work.  It's not a big deal as it does tend to weed out those who aren't serious about learning, but it wouldn't hurt to have a newcomers guide for some of this.  Incidentally, that's what I'm building as I go.

IN 2014 I WAS NEW--

LiteCoin was still $20 or so, and I didn't loose anything at Mt. Gox.  But I didn't know SGminer from CCminer and I started to read and learn.  You have many questions, but the answers to questions don't make a guitar player great, practice does.  You have just noticed that I switched from SPminer private to TPruvot's CCminer, but left a typo behind.  Sorry, tough beans.

You must work with the material to learn it.  So far, so good.  Wish the best for you.       --scryptr