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September 27, 2013, 08:22:15 PM
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So how did Bitcoin Central wind down? It's been almost six months. Did everybody get their money back, or were they ripped off?
They are back up.  I'm in with my old account, and my money is still there.
I did get my money back when I asked. Today when I log in still have my 0.00190 € that I left there Tongue
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September 27, 2013, 09:38:46 PM
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I have sort of half and eye open for a suitable exchange since Mt. Gox does not seem to be able to supply USD withdrawals.  Bitcoin-Brokers is my current preferred solution, but I'd like to have a backup.  I have a tortured history with Bitcoin-Central in association with the Instawallet fiasco.  My sense at this point is that they are probably not thieves, but are somewhat armature both in terms of network security design, and in terms of customer services business related aspects.

I'll pass on patronizing Bitcoin-Central at this point until they can demonstrate a little more proficiency in certain key areas.  In particular I'll be watching what they do with the excess Instawallet funds that the little theft windfall dropped on their doorstep, and I'll be watching to see if they actually do peruse the theft as a crime.  Remember that O.J. Simpson retained a private investigator to 'hunt down' the perp who murdered his ex-wife after he was acquitted.  Probably exactly zero members of the general public found that very convincing while probably 50% of the Bitcoin community would happily take Bitcoin-Central's word that they were perusing a criminal investigation into the Instwallet theft.


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September 28, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
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they are a market place and not an exchange which makes the main difference to Bitcoin-central.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/971487/bitcoin-central-exchange-reopens-after-6-months-hiatus/ - that is a reason to re-open the thread.

That's right. Bitcoin-central is a bitcoin exchange marketplace where funds (euros) are deposited to a regulated payment account while bitcoin.de is what is usually referred to as an OTC marketplace.
The main difference is that whenever a trade is executed on bitcoin-central, the fiat currency balance of the seller is credited immediately with the proceeds and the bitcoins are delivered to the buyer.
Conversely, with an OTC mecanism, both the buyer and the seller must wait for the buyer's fiat currency amount to reach the seller's bank account. Meanwhile the bitcoins of the OTC seller are tied up.

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September 28, 2013, 09:53:52 PM
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Let's see how fast customers will come back... This exchange looks very
promising, even though they had a series of security breaches earlier this
year.

They provide information in a way that is imho model to bitcoin exchanges -
corporations in general.

That stated, they fail in:
  • providing a HTTP API
  • looks like one has to verify again (documents lost??)
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September 28, 2013, 10:09:54 PM
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  • looks like one has to verify again (documents lost??)


IIRC no one never had verified a proof of address.



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September 28, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
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Before the hacks you became verified by submitting:
- passport or national_id copy, both containing an address
- utility bill, containing address

Another thing that seems a bit odd: I just enabled my
Google authenticator and to my surprise obtained the
exact same shared-key I possessed earlier this year, but
disabled back then. Is this ok?
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September 28, 2013, 10:20:50 PM
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I think that I only gave my ID



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September 28, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
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I think that I only gave my ID
Your ID does not contain an address?
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September 28, 2013, 10:24:32 PM
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I think that I only gave my ID
Your ID does not contain an address?


Not updated, I moved 3 times Tongue . (ID is valid for 10 years)



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September 29, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
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... I just enabled my
Google authenticator and to my surprise obtained the
exact same shared-key I possessed earlier this year, but
disabled back then. Is this ok?
Edit: Deleted the Google Authenticator again, installed
new one. Now I possess a different shared key. I filed a report
concerning this issue.
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September 29, 2013, 08:08:10 AM
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providing a HTTP API

Actually there is only an API, the frontend is simply a ligthweight JS client that relies on it.
We need to document it for third-parties to be able to use it.


looks like one has to verify again (documents lost??)

Our new partner requires a proof of residence which wasn't required before.
All documents that were submitted previously have been properly migrated for inclusion in the new verification process.

Edit: Deleted the Google Authenticator again, installed
new one. Now I possess a different shared key. I filed a report
concerning this issue.

That sounds about right, your shared secret was saved along with the rest when we migrated and a new one was generated when you reset the whole thing.

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providing a HTTP API

Actually there is only an API, the frontend is simply a ligthweight JS client that relies on it.
We need to document it for third-parties to be able to use it.


looks like one has to verify again (documents lost??)

Our new partner requires a proof of residence which wasn't required before.
All documents that were submitted previously have been properly migrated for inclusion in the new verification process.

Edit: Deleted the Google Authenticator again, installed
new one. Now I possess a different shared key. I filed a report
concerning this issue.

That sounds about right, your shared secret was saved along with the rest when we migrated and a new one was generated when you reset the whole thing.

Do you accept non-EU customers?

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Do you accept non-EU customers?
With its new Payment Institution partner, BC  can accept all residents of the 30-state European Economic Area:

 Austria
 Belgium
 Bulgaria
 Cyprus
 Czech Republic
 Denmark
 Estonia
 Finland
 France
 Germany
 Greece
 Hungary
 Ireland
 Iceland
 Italy
 Latvia
 Liechtenstein
 Lithuania
 Luxembourg
 Malta
 Netherlands
Norway
 Poland
 Portugal
 Romania
 Slovakia
 Slovenia
 Spain
 Sweden
 United Kingdom

So its OK if you hold an Australian passport as long as you can provide a proof of residence in the EEA.
Note that the Payment Institution partner does not accept mobile telephony bills as proof of residence (only utility bills or fixed line telephone bill).

EDIT: Norway added, Switzerland removed from the list (for now).

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Do you accept non-EU customers?
With its new Payment Institution partner, BC  can accept all residents of the 30-state European Economic Area:
Norway is missing from your list.  Switzerland is on your list, but not a member of the EEA.  Switzerland and Monaco are part of SEPA however, if that matters.

Sjå https://bitmynt.no for veksling av bitcoin mot norske kroner.  Trygt, billig, raskt og enkelt sidan 2010.
I buy with EUR and other currencies at a fair market price when you want to sell.  See http://bitmynt.no/eurprice.pl
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Do you accept non-EU customers?
With its new Payment Institution partner, BC  can accept all residents of the 30-state European Economic Area:

 Austria
 Belgium
 Bulgaria
 Cyprus
 Czech Republic
 Denmark
 Estonia
 Finland
 France
 Germany
 Greece
 Hungary
 Ireland
 Iceland
 Italy
 Latvia
 Liechtenstein
 Lithuania
 Luxembourg
 Malta
 Netherlands
 Poland
 Portugal
 Romania
 Slovakia
 Slovenia
 Spain
 Sweden
  Switzerland
 United Kingdom

So its OK if you hold an Australian passport as long as you can provide a proof of residence in the EEA.
Note that the Payment Institution partner does not accept mobile telephony bills as proof of residence (only utility bills or fixed line telephone bill).

What if someone holds an UK passport but not EEA residence?

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What's the banking partner? A well-known name?
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What's the banking partner? A well-known name?

According to the help section it seems to be Lemon Way :

"You will find the bank details (RIB or BIC + IBAN) for LEMON WAY, the banking partner of PAYMIUM."
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AWESOME news. Bitcoin will always win. Even if there are only 10 computers running, bitcoin will stay alive.

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bitcoin will stay alive

Please note how I refrained from responding with a Breaking Bad finale spoiler joke.

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bitcoin will stay alive

Please note how I refrained from responding with a Breaking Bad finale spoiler joke.

Arrrghh don't do that please please please, I'm watching it in 7 hours, and I'm currently avoiding any site where I could be spoiled Cheesy
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