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September 23, 2013, 08:49:13 AM
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Ukyo and all. BTCT.co is CLOSING if you haven't heard! Lets hope Bitfunder is ready for the surge of new securities and traders...........
It's already slow as hell, it will be dissaster soon... If Ukyo don't do anything ASAP we will hear that he must to close his site to.....

Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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September 23, 2013, 09:20:47 AM
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Ukyo and all. BTCT.co is CLOSING if you haven't heard! Lets hope Bitfunder is ready for the surge of new securities and traders...........
It's already slow as hell, it will be dissaster soon... If Ukyo don't do anything ASAP we will hear that he must to close his site to.....

Agreed.
Some plans are in the works for improvements.
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September 23, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
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Ukyo and all. BTCT.co is CLOSING if you haven't heard! Lets hope Bitfunder is ready for the surge of new securities and traders...........
It's already slow as hell, it will be dissaster soon... If Ukyo don't do anything ASAP we will hear that he must to close his site to.....

Agreed.
Some plans are in the works for improvements.

Given BTCT was just regulated to death, you may want to de-list any US based securities, even (especially) if they are hiding behind flimsy shell companies like Activemining's "Belize" entity.

The SEC is coming after anything with US connections/operations!


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September 23, 2013, 09:37:26 AM
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Ukyo and all. BTCT.co is CLOSING if you haven't heard! Lets hope Bitfunder is ready for the surge of new securities and traders...........
It's already slow as hell, it will be dissaster soon... If Ukyo don't do anything ASAP we will hear that he must to close his site to.....

Agreed.
Some plans are in the works for improvements.


Hello Ukyo, could you suffer for any issues btct is having right now? How about the US securities, they are in trouble despite they are listed in a out-US company?
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September 24, 2013, 06:26:37 AM
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Ukyo and all. BTCT.co is CLOSING if you haven't heard! Lets hope Bitfunder is ready for the surge of new securities and traders...........
It's already slow as hell, it will be dissaster soon... If Ukyo don't do anything ASAP we will hear that he must to close his site to.....

Agreed.
Some plans are in the works for improvements.


Hi, I can't even sign up, please help, has already PM you. tks
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September 24, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
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Ukyo, could you deny receiving any inquiry from US authorities? Or did you recieve any?
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September 24, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
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I think with BTCT closing, Ukyo should make a public announcement as to the status of bitfunder with regards to regulatory compliance.  I know I'm a little anxious right now.
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September 24, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
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Given BTCT was just regulated to death, you may want to de-list any US based securities, even (especially) if they are hiding behind flimsy shell companies like Activemining's "Belize" entity.

The SEC is coming after anything with US connections/operations!

Can you provide any proof for your statement?
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September 24, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
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Given BTCT was just regulated to death, you may want to de-list any US based securities, even (especially) if they are hiding behind flimsy shell companies like Activemining's "Belize" entity.

The SEC is coming after anything with US connections/operations!

Can you provide any proof for your statement?

In case you didn't know Ice has invested in icedrill a competitor to Active Mining. So when you read his anti active mining posts thats why. He is also a common forum troll along with crumbs.
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September 24, 2013, 06:12:07 PM
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Given BTCT was just regulated to death, you may want to de-list any US based securities, even (especially) if they are hiding behind flimsy shell companies like Activemining's "Belize" entity.

The SEC is coming after anything with US connections/operations!

Can you provide any proof for your statement?

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Some said it would never happen. They were wrong. The U.S. and Swiss reached a deal that punishes Swiss banks and paves the way for even more transparency. See DOJ: United States and Switzerland Issue Joint Statement Regarding Tax Evasion Investigations. And it takes little imagination to know this will impact even obscure and far-flung countries too. After all, just remember the past and Switzerland’s long tradition of bank confidentiality. Tax evasion is not even considered a crime.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2013/08/31/every-american-with-money-abroad-anywhere-abroad-is-impacted-by-massive-bank-deal/

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Richard Bloomfield has spent three decades embracing the Swiss way of life. Married to a Swiss woman, the 63-year-old retired pastor speaks Swiss German fluently and admits he does many things “the Swiss way”. In the eyes of wary Swiss banks, however, he's still very much an American.

Last year, the Swiss bank where he held an account for nine years informed him he should take his business elsewhere. Faced with onerous US tax reporting rules set to come into effect in 2014, the bank decided the costs were too great and that cutting ties with Bloomfield and other American customers would be preferable.

They weren’t the only ones coming to this conclusion, Bloomfield learned when he was rejected by another Swiss cantonal bank. “When the fellow heard my name, he said no chance,” Bloomfield tells The Local. “He was very nice. He simply said it’s too complicated, costs too much money, we don’t want to take that risk.” Bloomfield eventually moved his account to the Raiffeisen bank, where he already had a mortgage.

Many Americans in Switzerland, like Bloomfield, are finding the welcome mat gone from the doorstep of their local bank. Some banks are closing the accounts of Americans who live in Switzerland, while others are refusing to grant them mortgages or loans.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20130402/american-expats-fall-out-of-favour-with-swiss-banks


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
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September 24, 2013, 06:28:42 PM
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In case you didn't know Ice has invested in icedrill a competitor to Active Mining. So when you read his anti active mining posts thats why. He is also a common forum troll along with crumbs.

drawingthesun, you are being a tattletale.  Nobody likes snitches.  In fact, I hear they often get stitches.

You noobish failvestment in ACTM won't be helped by telling on me.

This "anti active mining post thats why."   Grin

In my honest opinion, I do not believe that making a claim that the site is 'virtual currency' and that
'No assets on the site are to be considered real.' would convince any U.S. Federal Judge (esp. when
a U.S. Citizen goes out of their way to put it in a server in Belize when they operate their own hosting
service in the U.S
) that the service is not guilty of something already and deny an FBI warrant request.
The U.S. Government does not care where your services are hosted, or how you claim ownership is
divided up, and especially if you are a U.S. citizen that appears to be in control (and sometimes if you
are real lucky, they do not even care if you are a U.S. Citizen to begin with), if they want to make an
example out of you they will. (see. KimDotCom)

 Wink  I know you are not very smart drawingthesun, so I will connect Dot A to Dot B for you:

Ukyo is talking specifically about ACTM in the above paragraph, and is not impressed with their sophisticated shell company in Belize.


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
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September 24, 2013, 06:34:08 PM
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In my honest opinion, I do not believe that making a claim that the site is 'virtual currency' and that
'No assets on the site are to be considered real.' would convince any U.S. Federal Judge (esp. when
a U.S. Citizen goes out of their way to put it in a server in Belize when they operate their own hosting
service in the U.S
) that the service is not guilty of something already and deny an FBI warrant request.
The U.S. Government does not care where your services are hosted, or how you claim ownership is
divided up, and especially if you are a U.S. citizen that appears to be in control (and sometimes if you
are real lucky, they do not even care if you are a U.S. Citizen to begin with), if they want to make an
example out of you they will. (see. KimDotCom)

 Wink  I know you are not very smart drawingthesun, so I will connect Dot A to Dot B for you:

Ukyo is talking specifically about ACTM in the above paragraph, and is not impressed with their sophisticated shell company in Belize.

Actually, if you read the paragraph (which may take some effort), it's clear that Ukyo is referring to BTCT.co, which is ran by a US citizen (Burnside), who operates his own US hosting service (http://www.kattare.com/) while registering the company in Belize. The fact that a literal quote from the BTCT.co disclaimer ("No assets on the site are to be considered real") is in the paragraph only adds to it ^^
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September 24, 2013, 06:37:24 PM
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Ice

Time to step away, and do something fulfilling, when your interpretation skills fail like that.
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September 24, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
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In my honest opinion, I do not believe that making a claim that the site is 'virtual currency' and that
'No assets on the site are to be considered real.' would convince any U.S. Federal Judge (esp. when
a U.S. Citizen goes out of their way to put it in a server in Belize when they operate their own hosting
service in the U.S
) that the service is not guilty of something already and deny an FBI warrant request.
The U.S. Government does not care where your services are hosted, or how you claim ownership is
divided up, and especially if you are a U.S. citizen that appears to be in control (and sometimes if you
are real lucky, they do not even care if you are a U.S. Citizen to begin with), if they want to make an
example out of you they will. (see. KimDotCom)

 Wink  I know you are not very smart drawingthesun, so I will connect Dot A to Dot B for you:

Ukyo is talking specifically about ACTM in the above paragraph, and is not impressed with their sophisticated shell company in Belize.

Actually, if you read the paragraph (which may take some effort), it's clear that Ukyo is referring to BTCT.co, which is ran by a US citizen (Burnside), who operates his own US hosting service (http://www.kattare.com/) while registering the company in Belize. The fact that a literal quote from the BTCT.co disclaimer ("No assets on the site are to be considered real") is in the paragraph only adds to it ^^

Nice digging there, finding a Ukyo quote from 11th December 2012, months before ActM existed! LOL! Grin Grin Grin
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September 24, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
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if you read the paragraph it's clear that Ukyo is referring to Activemining, which is ran by a US citizen (Ken), who operates his own US hosting service (http://www.axs.net/) while registering the company in Belize.

There, I fixed it for you!   Cheesy


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
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September 24, 2013, 06:53:08 PM
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if you read the paragraph it's clear that Ukyo is referring to Activemining, which is ran by a US citizen (Ken), who operates his own US hosting service (http://www.axs.net/) while registering the company in Belize.

There, I fixed it for you!   Cheesy


Ice, you really made a fool of yourself this time.

Not like you care. You live for this shit. Tongue
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September 24, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
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if you read the paragraph it's clear that Ukyo is referring to Activemining, which is ran by a US citizen (Ken), who operates his own US hosting service (http://www.axs.net/) while registering the company in Belize.

There, I fixed it for you!   Cheesy


Ice, you really made a fool of yourself this time.

Not like you care. You live for this shit. Tongue

Actually he's making a fool of himself every time he posts along with the other forum troll, Crumblestiltskin. I really don't think anyone's listening to the crap he types all day long...

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September 25, 2013, 12:27:52 AM
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if you read the paragraph it's clear that Ukyo is referring to Activemining, which is ran by a US citizen (Ken), who operates his own US hosting service (http://www.axs.net/) while registering the company in Belize.

There, I fixed it for you!   Cheesy


Ice, you really made a fool of yourself this time.

Not like you care. You live for this shit. Tongue

How much have you lost on LAGcoin and ActiveScamming so far?  80%?  90%?

Your own portfolio is making a fool of you.

ALWAYS BET ON iCE...


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
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Some said it would never happen. They were wrong. The U.S. and Swiss reached a deal that punishes Swiss banks and paves the way for even more transparency. See DOJ: United States and Switzerland Issue Joint Statement Regarding Tax Evasion Investigations. And it takes little imagination to know this will impact even obscure and far-flung countries too. After all, just remember the past and Switzerland’s long tradition of bank confidentiality. Tax evasion is not even considered a crime.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2013/08/31/every-american-with-money-abroad-anywhere-abroad-is-impacted-by-massive-bank-deal/

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Richard Bloomfield has spent three decades embracing the Swiss way of life. Married to a Swiss woman, the 63-year-old retired pastor speaks Swiss German fluently and admits he does many things “the Swiss way”. In the eyes of wary Swiss banks, however, he's still very much an American.

Last year, the Swiss bank where he held an account for nine years informed him he should take his business elsewhere. Faced with onerous US tax reporting rules set to come into effect in 2014, the bank decided the costs were too great and that cutting ties with Bloomfield and other American customers would be preferable.

They weren’t the only ones coming to this conclusion, Bloomfield learned when he was rejected by another Swiss cantonal bank. “When the fellow heard my name, he said no chance,” Bloomfield tells The Local. “He was very nice. He simply said it’s too complicated, costs too much money, we don’t want to take that risk.” Bloomfield eventually moved his account to the Raiffeisen bank, where he already had a mortgage.

Many Americans in Switzerland, like Bloomfield, are finding the welcome mat gone from the doorstep of their local bank. Some banks are closing the accounts of Americans who live in Switzerland, while others are refusing to grant them mortgages or loans.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20130402/american-expats-fall-out-of-favour-with-swiss-banks
You're full of shit. Nothing you posted has anything to do with BTCT being "regulated to death". All you are doing is trying to spread fear. When are you going to find something better to do other than hanging out in mom's basement spreading bullshit on a bitcoin securities forum?
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September 25, 2013, 07:03:06 AM
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Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to give a quick update on our mail system.
We had been working on upgrading to a new mail platform for a while and were almost ready to go.
The recent events have caused additional stress on the old system that it was never designed to handle.
The new system should be up and everyone should be handles fairly soon.

I will post an update as soon as things clear up.

-Ukyo
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