[BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading

[madmax_ger]

Oh well, that clarifies why Ukyo didn't respond to my support ticket about how to get verified
when dealing with wrong personal data originally when creating the BF account.

But I cant trade anything as an unverified user and now it's out of my hands what happens to
my valued shares.

Ukyo, you did provide a good exchange. But you are ruining a lot of peoples money now.

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[molecular]

weexchange: "Could not connect to 2nd stage server."

what is this crap. Seems to have been going on for days.

Get you shit together and facilitate a smooth exit, please.

[molecular]

I think it's time to start supporting p2p type exchange architectures like the ngccc (colored coins) Project... they need help and I bet money helps, too.

We can't complain if we don't help.

[ffwong]

weexchange: "Could not connect to 2nd stage server."

what is this crap. Seems to have been going on for days.

Get you shit together and facilitate a smooth exit, please.

Me too. It is really crap as a money exchanger.

[molecular]

weexchange: "Could not connect to 2nd stage server."

what is this crap. Seems to have been going on for days.

Get you shit together and facilitate a smooth exit, please.

Me too. It is really crap as a money exchanger.

I just hope they have the money.

[SOSLOVE868]

weexchange: "Could not connect to 2nd stage server."

what is this crap. Seems to have been going on for days.

Get you shit together and facilitate a smooth exit, please.

Me too. It is really crap as a money exchanger.

I just hope they have the money.

I just hope they do not touch our BTC ......

[Lohoris]

I have warned you dozens of times, using logic, reason, and wasting thousands of keystrokes -- you chose to ignore the warnings.
Perhaps this modified aversion therapy will make some sort of an imprint.
It worked on Pavlov's dogs, though those were smart & eager to learn.
We'll see how things hash out here.

Me too.
I was so tired to repeat again and again for months how unstable bitfunder was, that I'm tempted to be happy if anybody who didn't listen gets screwed now.

[drawingthesun]

I just hope they do not touch our BTC ......

Well Ukyo and Graet are close to bankruptcy and probably using all the money on WeExchange to pay back the people they owe.

[SOSLOVE868]

I just hope they do not touch our BTC ......

Well Ukyo and Graet are close to bankruptcy and probably using all the money on WeExchange to pay back the people they owe.

The last trade of Great loan is only 0.0015 which is 85% lower than the IPO price...If I am Great I will bid a buy order on BF to buy back his own debt.
as well as UKYO....the last trade of UKYO loan is as only 0.0062...

[strello]

Well Ukyo and Graet are close to bankruptcy and probably using all the money on WeExchange to pay back the people they owe.

Can you link to your evidence for this please?

[kjlimo]

Seriously?

What did you expect?  Did no one learn from GLBSE?

[pedrog]

Seriously?

What did you expect?  Did no one learn from GLBSE?

Not because the precedent, I've saw Nefarios's talk about that, but because the the all "Verified" thing...

[MPOE-PR]

I think it's time to start supporting p2p type exchange architectures like the ngccc (colored coins) Project... they need help and I bet money helps, too.

We can't complain if we don't help.

Colored coins cannot replace an actual stock exchange. The point was made in January.

More importantly, money used to support broken ideas does not help. Much in the same way that using broken exchanges and hoping they'll work out because people are nice though incompetent does not help.

a little bit of conspiracy: exchanges are closed, because there is need to have decentralized exchange. bitcoin is product of some us&a intelligence service and they need community to continue development more

Neither does conspiracy help. Play pretend exchanges do not close "because" anything other than the fact that they are play exchanges, and as such they cannot hold.

So, with no btct and no bitfunder what other options we have?

Havelock if they are able to continue there business now with there move to Panama.

And then we have Cryptostocks, im not a huge fan of how Kumala, Cryptostocks owner and Vircurex majority owner has treated the minority owners in Vircurex, but i guess Cryptostocks will probably be the last of the BTCstockexchanges to still stand. They will probably not get affected by any actions SEC or any other USA based government organization can take.  

You "have" Cryptostocks in the same manner that you've "had" all the rest of the play pretend exchanges, including GLBSE, including btct, and you'll continue to "have" them until such time as people stop putting hopes, dreams, and money into broken operations which themselves hope to soak up that money from uninformed people playing at "investing" instead of getting informed, along with play-pretend exchanges that facilitate said operations.

Hoping is not investing, no matter how it's crafted so as to seem like it. This won't be "fixed" by moving on to another platform fueled by hope, whether it's cryptostocks, whether it's P2P, whether some boogeyman in a suit comes or not. Bitcoin isn't a nice person who cares about people's aspirations and desires and wants to help people out. So long as some people pretend that Bitcoin is their personal friend and nice graphics and good intentions have anything to do with investing, this will be said again and again, every time:

GPG contracts. Security that isn't based on the limitations of a "slick" website. Actual IPOs from actually planned out, accountable entities. Yes, there's a fee. You're paying for that which works, which in the end is all that's worth paying for. No, I'm not especially nice in that In-N-Out Burger sort of way (though I'm just PR, you don't have to deal with me at all to use the exchange). The lies, the sugar-coating, the beating around the bush, is exactly for cheap food service and has no place in BTC finance. Plenty of people have thrown a fit over these facts, I'm sure plenty of people will continue to do so, and will continue to lose their money. MPEx will be right here.

[kuriboh]

I'm trying to withdraw some funds from weexchange and I been waiting 1 hour... It's weexchange having problems too?

txid: SebfgeRu7WiimHvcXSjY5cVwBEH4gBQA

[jimmothy]

TL:DR use OUR exchange because it has an awesome 30 BTC registration fee and is totally more legit than other exchanges.

I find it funny that most of the trading on your site is of the security for the sites profits that are solely based off how many people register/trade on your site. I see 4 nearly non-value creating securities.. And whats up with the shitty design? You couldn't take like 1 btc from them mad profits you guys claim to be making, and hire some random web designer for $15 usd/hour and make your site actually presentable? Or you could have even just spent the time designing something yourself instead of wasting the time advertising your blog/exchange.

Also the article you linked which I was tempted to not even read fails to realize that all existing exchanges/securities can choose to implement colored coins so that in the case of an exchange shutdown, all the coins would be distributed back to their owners and can be simply sent to any other existing exchange. No need to use p2p exchanges for every trade that's just silly.

LMAO that scam of a bet I'm assuming you created states that ALL 3 exchanges must survive for 1 year for it to be yes. Oh and how convenient that it includes all these dates and fancy words but really the only date that matters dec 12 (the last exchange to open). It's funny that now, over an entire year since its birth, havelock which you consider a "play exchange" is operating smoothely.

[dexX7]

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There is also www.coinbr.com, a MPEx broker.

[jimmothy]

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There is also www.coinbr.com, a MPEx broker.

But why would anyone want to deal with mpex in the first place?

Fees
All MPEx fees are already included. Reduced fees since November 1st, 2013!

    Creating new account : free
    BTC deposits and receiving dividends : free
    Account management fee : 0.09 0.019 BTC monthly.
    Buying/Selling/Option exercise fee : 0.5% from traded amount in BTC
    BTC withdrawals and asset transfers : 0.1 0.02 BTC fee

Account management fee will be levied from all accounts every month on 1st. Newly registered users pay only part of it - for days between registration and the end of the month.
Referral program
You can get your invitation code or referral URL after you deposit at least 1 BTC - check your profile page. Earn following commission from people you invite:

    0.2% from their traded/exercised amount in BTC
    20%50% (since November 1) from their withdrawal fees

Ah who doesn't love ridiculous fees.. but wait you can even make money by inviting your friends to get ripped off!

[Nootnewbie]

Will users be able to withdraw less than the minimum .1 BTC from bitfunder to wee-exchange.  And from we-exchange out?  I have just a little BTC left but I'd hate for it to go to waste.

Anybody know a work around?  Send money to weex and then to bitfunder and then withdraw more than .1 btc?

[moribana]

You certainly read a lot in many different languages if you can claim this 

Most countries have this information available in English. Not that it matters, the capital market is a global one and regulations and the underlying principles are pretty similar all over (mostly because its based on common sense).

"Common sense" depends a lot on culture. In the US it is common sense to criminalize drinking under the age of 21. In some other countries common sense is to teach youngsters responsible drinking at a much earlier age. In the US it is common sense to keep guns at in your home to protect yourself from your neighbour. In many other countries this task is left to the authorities. What you think is "common sense" might not apply to the rest of the world. I understand that it is very hard to realize this if you are part of a culture that claims to be in possession of THE UNIVERSAL TRUTH.

[azaniet]

Got an error on weexchange when trying to withdraw funds: "could not connect to 2nd stage server".

Withdrawal transaction id:
7aZ90lL5kNyCGFtAswUzvkTyh8fycYj3