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[crazyearner]

cant seem to deposit to the address given in secrete key how or what address do i deposit to I follow instructions on site however It wont allow me to deposit

Hey, sorry!  Minor downtime:)  It should be good to go now.

Still having problems, Is their any instructions on how to deposit step by step as saying invalid address to deposit to.

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

cant seem to deposit to the address given in secrete key how or what address do i deposit to I follow instructions on site however It wont allow me to deposit

Hey, sorry!  Minor downtime:)  It should be good to go now.

Still having problems, Is their any instructions on how to deposit step by step as saying invalid address to deposit to.

If you reload the page (bitcoinvideocasino.com) you should get a new address.  If you're getting "invalid address" can you tell me what address it is giving you?

[dooglus]

cant seem to deposit to the address given in secrete key how or what address do i deposit to I follow instructions on site however It wont allow me to deposit

Hey, sorry!  Minor downtime:)  It should be good to go now.

Still having problems, Is their any instructions on how to deposit step by step as saying invalid address to deposit to.

If you reload the page (bitcoinvideocasino.com) you should get a new address.  If you're getting "invalid address" can you tell me what address it is giving you?

I think he's trying to deposit to the secret key in the site's URL:



instead of the address shown at the bottom of the page:



(but that's just a guess - and that's not my real account - it's a new throwaway one).

[dooglus]

http://imgur.com/tCvzdXx

The numbers seem to add up too.  Any ideas?

You have a return of -1 for non paying hands.  For the other hands you're showing the payout, not the profit, so you should do the same for the non paying hands.  The payout is 0.  We have to either use 'payout' everywhere, or 'profit' everywhere.  We can't mix them.

You've calculated that the expected return per 1 chip play is negative...  That's a house edge of over 100%.

Your 87588 figure is how big the pot would have to be to give you a 100% house edge if you did actually take 1 extra chip from the player each time they lost.

Here's my calculation of the required pot to make a 100% payout:

Code:

  777d    2149        60  0.0000034535  289562.000  0.0074
  777s    1000       180  0.0000103605   96520.667  0.0104
   777     250      6600  0.0003798841    2632.382  0.0950
   77s      50     19200  0.0011051174     904.881  0.0553
    77      25     72000  0.0041441902     241.302  0.1036
     7       5   1238400  0.0712800713      14.029  0.3564
  lose       0  16037280  0.9230769231       1.083  0.0000
------          --------  ------------  ----------  ------
   all          17373720  1.0000000000       1.000  0.6280

                                     total payout is 10910940 / 17373720 = 0.628014
     extra payout needed from jackpot to make 100% is 6462780 / 17373720 = 0.371986
each chip in pot adds 60 to numerator, so need to add 6462780 / 60 = 107713 to pot
                             so pot needs to be current pot (2149) + 107713 = 109862

and here's the same table with the 109k jackpot:

Code:

  777d  109862        60  0.0000034535  289562.000  0.3794
  777s    1000       180  0.0000103605   96520.667  0.0104
   777     250      6600  0.0003798841    2632.382  0.0950
   77s      50     19200  0.0011051174     904.881  0.0553
    77      25     72000  0.0041441902     241.302  0.1036
     7       5   1238400  0.0712800713      14.029  0.3564
  lose       0  16037280  0.9230769231       1.083  0.0000
------          --------  ------------  ----------  ------
   all          17373720  1.0000000000       1.000  1.0000

Here's your 100% house edge game (0% payout) where the player gets a negative payout when they lose:

Code:

  777d   87588        60  0.0000034535  289562.000  0.3025
  777s    1000       180  0.0000103605   96520.667  0.0104
   777     250      6600  0.0003798841    2632.382  0.0950
   77s      50     19200  0.0011051174     904.881  0.0553
    77      25     72000  0.0041441902     241.302  0.1036
     7       5   1238400  0.0712800713      14.029  0.3564
  lose      -1  16037280  0.9230769231       1.083  -0.9231
------          --------  ------------  ----------  ------
   all          17373720  1.0000000000       1.000  0.0000

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

http://imgur.com/tCvzdXx

The numbers seem to add up too.  Any ideas?

You have a return of -1 for non paying hands.  For the other hands you're showing the payout, not the profit, so you should do the same for the non paying hands.  The payout is 0.  We have to either use 'payout' everywhere, or 'profit' everywhere.  We can't mix them.

You've calculated that the expected return per 1 chip play is negative...  That's a house edge of over 100%.

Your 87588 figure is how big the pot would have to be to give you a 100% house edge if you did actually take 1 extra chip from the player each time they lost.

Here's my calculation of the required pot to make a 100% payout:

Code:

  777d    2149        60  0.0000034535  289562.000  0.0074
  777s    1000       180  0.0000103605   96520.667  0.0104
   777     250      6600  0.0003798841    2632.382  0.0950
   77s      50     19200  0.0011051174     904.881  0.0553
    77      25     72000  0.0041441902     241.302  0.1036
     7       5   1238400  0.0712800713      14.029  0.3564
  lose       0  16037280  0.9230769231       1.083  0.0000
------          --------  ------------  ----------  ------
   all          17373720  1.0000000000       1.000  0.6280

                                     total payout is 10910940 / 17373720 = 0.628014
     extra payout needed from jackpot to make 100% is 6462780 / 17373720 = 0.371986
each chip in pot adds 60 to numerator, so need to add 6462780 / 60 = 107713 to pot
                             so pot needs to be current pot (2149) + 107713 = 109862

and here's the same table with the 109k jackpot:

Code:

  777d  109862        60  0.0000034535  289562.000  0.3794
  777s    1000       180  0.0000103605   96520.667  0.0104
   777     250      6600  0.0003798841    2632.382  0.0950
   77s      50     19200  0.0011051174     904.881  0.0553
    77      25     72000  0.0041441902     241.302  0.1036
     7       5   1238400  0.0712800713      14.029  0.3564
  lose       0  16037280  0.9230769231       1.083  0.0000
------          --------  ------------  ----------  ------
   all          17373720  1.0000000000       1.000  1.0000

Here's your 100% house edge game (0% payout) where the player gets a negative payout when they lose:

Code:

  777d   87588        60  0.0000034535  289562.000  0.3025
  777s    1000       180  0.0000103605   96520.667  0.0104
   777     250      6600  0.0003798841    2632.382  0.0950
   77s      50     19200  0.0011051174     904.881  0.0553
    77      25     72000  0.0041441902     241.302  0.1036
     7       5   1238400  0.0712800713      14.029  0.3564
  lose      -1  16037280  0.9230769231       1.083  -0.9231
------          --------  ------------  ----------  ------
   all          17373720  1.0000000000       1.000  0.0000

Yup, you're right.  Finally adjusted my numbers and came to the same conclusion you have. 

Blackjack is going to be a very different game than video poker.  The pot will grow slowly, but it won't be won as often.  I do hope that some day we pay 110 BTC to some lucky progressive winner

[AndrewJ]

I love BlackJack

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

I just want to let everyone know that we've update the site with a few new features: a referral program, a public API, and we've upped the Blackjack max bet limit to 0.25 BTC.

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

We've just released roulette!  Come check us out at http://bitcoinvideocasino.com !

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

There were a couple small issues that were fixed today, mostly text changes, but some minor roulette functionality was adjusted as well.

[Micon]

1)  love this site, love whoever is behind it. 

2)  The constant coding of new games is awesome, and keeps me personally checking back all the time to see new improvements.

3)  "autoplay" is absolutely brilliant when applied to all games, but with videopoker it actually makes it fun for me to play, really scratches that degen itch but without me having to constantly make the same decisions.   API so dooglus can write his own set of rules IMO and get that bad boy up to 99.6% payouts.

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

1)  love this site, love whoever is behind it. 

2)  The constant coding of new games is awesome, and keeps me personally checking back all the time to see new improvements.

3)  "autoplay" is absolutely brilliant when applied to all games, but with videopoker it actually makes it fun for me to play, really scratches that degen itch but without me having to constantly make the same decisions.   API so dooglus can write his own set of rules IMO and get that bad boy up to 99.6% payouts.

If that 99.6% autoplay bot ever gets released, we'll definitely mention it on our site:)

[dooglus]

If that 99.6% autoplay bot ever gets released, we'll definitely mention it on our site:)

Is there such a thing as a 'play money' account, which I can use when testing the bot and/or the API?

Or is it possible maybe for you to give me an account with a balance, but with 'withdraw' disabled, so it's real bitcoins, but I can't get my hands on them?

[dooglus]

URL
https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/account/create

Description
Create a new Bitcoin Video Casino account key. For most other service calls, this account key is required.

Request
GET https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/account/create

But:

$ wget https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/account/create
--2013-02-21 22:30:53--  https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/account/create
Resolving bitcoinvideocasino.com (bitcoinvideocasino.com)... 198.74.61.73
Connecting to bitcoinvideocasino.com (bitcoinvideocasino.com)|198.74.61.73|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 OK
2013-02-21 22:30:55 ERROR 404: OK.

I don't see any calls to account/create in your sample Python code either.  Is this not yet implemented?

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

If that 99.6% autoplay bot ever gets released, we'll definitely mention it on our site:)

Is there such a thing as a 'play money' account, which I can use when testing the bot and/or the API?

Or is it possible maybe for you to give me an account with a balance, but with 'withdraw' disabled, so it's real bitcoins, but I can't get my hands on them?

We don't have any play money accounts right now, but I can put 0.2BTC in an account that you can't withdraw from if that's good enough for now.  Go to the website and get a new account key, and give me the bitcoin address and I'll fund it.

[dooglus]

I think there's a typo in your API documentation:

On failure,
{"reason": "amount_too_small", "result": false, "time": 0}
result This value will be false in the event of an error
reason One of the following errors:
amount_to_small - You specified a withdrawal amount less than the minimum required.

Edit: /chat/users says it takes a 'msg' parameter.  That's probably incorrect, and was just copy/pasted from chat/post.

In the '/update' documentation it says 'For “oulette” gamedata'.  Missing an 'r'.

[dooglus]

We don't have any play money accounts right now, but I can put 0.2BTC in an account that you can't withdraw from if that's good enough for now.  Go to the website and get a new account key, and give me the bitcoin address and I'll fund it.

Thanks.  It's 1McFaheArC7z2tdzStSsh2pDdvf3vhUJxx.  The name is '2a1cbb5e9d'.

I considered signing up with my own referral code, but that seems a little rude. 

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

I think there's a typo in your API documentation:

On failure,
{"reason": "amount_too_small", "result": false, "time": 0}
result This value will be false in the event of an error
reason One of the following errors:
amount_to_small - You specified a withdrawal amount less than the minimum required.

Edit: /chat/users says it takes a 'msg' parameter.  That's probably incorrect, and was just copy/pasted from chat/post.

In the '/update' documentation it says 'For “oulette” gamedata'.  Missing an 'r'.

Ah, thanks for this.  I've made the changes locally and a new doc will be pushed sometime soon:)

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

We don't have any play money accounts right now, but I can put 0.2BTC in an account that you can't withdraw from if that's good enough for now.  Go to the website and get a new account key, and give me the bitcoin address and I'll fund it.

Thanks.  It's 1McFaheArC7z2tdzStSsh2pDdvf3vhUJxx.  The name is '2a1cbb5e9d'.

I considered signing up with my own referral code, but that seems a little rude. 

No worries..  I just sent 0.2BTC to that address and locked the account from withdrawing.  Let me know if you need anything else!

FWIW, you could change the account name to something descriptive (like "dooglusbot"), then we can all easily identify it on the recent tab.

And FWIW #2, you're welcome to use a referral code within your programs.

[Stephen Gornick]

FWIW, you could change the account name to something descriptive (like "dooglusbot"), then we can all easily identify it on the recent tab.

Is that only done through the API or is there a web interface for changing the display name?

Might there be any plans to add username/password as an alternative method to access my account (rather than just knowledge of the access key)?

There is another service that allows both -- either the "low security" method where the URL must be bookmarked/remembered (just like with BitcoinVideoCasino) as well as the ability to use a username/password.  That seems to work well when as a compromise, otherwise I'm uncomfortable letting anyone watch me play or snap a photo as the account_key is sitting there in plain view.

Also, on the site the old Twitter account screen name is still being used, @BTCVideoPoker  ... whereas the current Twitter account is
 - http://twitter.com/BTCVideoCasino

[BitcoinVideoPoker]

FWIW, you could change the account name to something descriptive (like "dooglusbot"), then we can all easily identify it on the recent tab.

Is that only done through the API or is there a web interface for changing the display name?

You can do it with either.  The /account/rename API call will do it, and the red & white portrait icon under the chat in the web view will do it too.

Might there be any plans to add username/password as an alternative method to access my account (rather than just knowledge of the access key)?

There is another service that allows both -- either the "low security" method where the URL must be bookmarked/remembered (just like with BitcoinVideoCasino) as well as the ability to use a username/password.  That seems to work well when as a compromise, otherwise I'm uncomfortable letting anyone watch me play or snap a photo as the account_key is sitting there in plain view.

Not at this time.  I know a number of people have asked for it but the other programmer and I believe the account key to be quite secure (when played from a private place).  A username/password isn't really any more secure, as you're just trading one insecurity (public viewing of your account key) for another (the security of your email, which generally isn't very secure). 

We are talking about a couple alternatives.  Perhaps we can optionally allow people to set a password, but if you lose the password you're out of luck (we won't store any personally identifiable information).  We'll explore some possibilities with this, so stay tuned.

Also, on the site the old Twitter account screen name is still being used, @BTCVideoPoker  ... whereas the current Twitter account is
 - http://twitter.com/BTCVideoCasino

Really? Thanks for pointing this out!  It's just me and another guy so sometimes a few of these details get overlooked:(