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May 13, 2015, 07:33:47 PM
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Site went down for maintenance and now its back up, and my balance is still in red and locked.. OP has not provided anything but a speculation that the said account is double spent..

I will make a scam accusation with negative trust in few hours if this issue is not resolved.. We are talking a good sum of btc here..Let me cashout..
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May 13, 2015, 08:01:57 PM
Last edit: May 13, 2015, 08:26:19 PM by BitcoinVideoPoker
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Site went down for maintenance and now its back up, and my balance is still in red and locked.. OP has not provided anything but a speculation that the said account is double spent..

I will make a scam accusation with negative trust in few hours if this issue is not resolved.. We are talking a good sum of btc here..Let me cashout..

Hi,

We are working on resolving this issue. If your account is in good standing then you will of course get your coins back. Unfortunately, there is too much evidence right now which leads us to believe that this account may have been used in a double spend attack.

We are not happy about this either. We just want everyone to have a good time on the site, but issues like this make it difficult. We always worry about users trying to cheat the website, which is a bit of a bummer.

Bitcoin Video Casino has been around for 2+ years and has never tried to cheat its users in any way. It would be ridiculous to throw all that away for 14 BTC. If you did nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about and you will get your coins back.

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May 13, 2015, 09:10:22 PM
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Site went down for maintenance and now its back up, and my balance is still in red and locked.. OP has not provided anything but a speculation that the said account is double spent..

I will make a scam accusation with negative trust in few hours if this issue is not resolved.. We are talking a good sum of btc here..Let me cashout..

Hi,

We are working on resolving this issue. If your account is in good standing then you will of course get your coins back. Unfortunately, there is too much evidence right now which leads us to believe that this account may have been used in a double spend attack.

We are not happy about this either. We just want everyone to have a good time on the site, but issues like this make it difficult. We always worry about users trying to cheat the website, which is a bit of a bummer.

Bitcoin Video Casino has been around for 2+ years and has never tried to cheat its users in any way. It would be ridiculous to throw all that away for 14 BTC. If you did nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about and you will get your coins back.

The blockchain transaction says otherwise.. This deposit was not double spent nor any of the previous transactions from the originating addresses.. And double spending would mean i would have more than 50% of the bitcoin network to be able to perform it lol.. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Double-spending

Anyway, I can see from the transaction that the 10BTC deposit was already moved, probably to you hot/cold wallet.. You got the bitcoins, and yet still refuses to unlock my balance..

You can't blame people for worrying about their $3,446+- worth of bitcoins being stucked, locked, stolen, scammed, frozen etc...

I really hope this will get fixed soon.. And like you said from your previous replies, i think its good to require 1 confirmation for deposits like other casinos do.

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May 14, 2015, 12:03:01 AM
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I'll be watching to see the resolution in this.

Can we elaborate more on how the double-spending attack would actually work against the casino? The deposit requires 2 confirmations before you are able to withdraw and a double-spend wouldn't get confirmed?
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May 14, 2015, 12:54:47 AM
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I'll be watching to see the resolution in this.

Can we elaborate more on how the double-spending attack would actually work against the casino? The deposit requires 2 confirmations before you are able to withdraw and a double-spend wouldn't get confirmed?

Sure, I'll explain it.  You control two addresses, A and B.  A has some balance.  You create a transaction with some casino that credits your balance with 0 confirmations as the recipient which we'll call Tx1.  You create another transaction using the same inputs as Tx1 with B as the recipient which we'll call Tx2.  Broadcast Tx1.  As soon as the casino credits your balance, you place a bet.  If you win, wait to confirm and withdraw.  If you lose, broadcast Tx2.

This won't work most of the time, because all things equal, Tx1 will propagate through the network quicker.

To make it work better, include a below standard or no fee in Tx1, and a normal or above average fee in Tx2.  Include a blacklisted address in Tx1 like satoshidice but not Tx2 and broadcast Tx2 directly to a miner that utilizes a blacklist (referring to LukeJr here, though not sure if he still does this).  If the site runs its own node, you could peer with that node, broadcast Tx1, and then utilize some kind of dos attack in combination with the double spend attack to increase your chances.

There's still luck and timing involved, but with the 1% or less edge many casinos are running these days, it could be enough to push a game +EV.
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May 14, 2015, 02:47:12 AM
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Site went down for maintenance and now its back up, and my balance is still in red and locked.. OP has not provided anything but a speculation that the said account is double spent..

I will make a scam accusation with negative trust in few hours if this issue is not resolved.. We are talking a good sum of btc here..Let me cashout..

Hi,

We are working on resolving this issue. If your account is in good standing then you will of course get your coins back. Unfortunately, there is too much evidence right now which leads us to believe that this account may have been used in a double spend attack.

We are not happy about this either. We just want everyone to have a good time on the site, but issues like this make it difficult. We always worry about users trying to cheat the website, which is a bit of a bummer.

Bitcoin Video Casino has been around for 2+ years and has never tried to cheat its users in any way. It would be ridiculous to throw all that away for 14 BTC. If you did nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about and you will get your coins back.

It is ridiculous to hold his money using double spent attack, he won 4 btc from you and you hold his principal and winning, this excuse is not good because even he attacked you, he was indeed winning on your site, but you just eat his money and profit, no way to hold his 14 btc, even if he attacked you, and how many did you lose on the attack??

A real attacker and hacker won't be stupid like this, he won a lot money from attack, and continue deposit 10btc money, which hack is so silly like this?
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May 14, 2015, 09:46:24 AM
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I will try my best to show what we know regarding Unibtc4real's account.

First things first, cheating is absolutely not allowed on this site. If you get caught cheating, you lose your account and all coins. We are very clear about that in the terms of service. We never cheat our users, and expect the same in return.

Below is an example of a recent double spend on BVC:

https://archive.is/hR49i

The 2.1 BTC was sent to 16nuq6EU9wRgpXK9BLN1iz5hEWb2Xg966o which is a deposit address on our site. The transaction has a very miners low fee of only 0.000001  BTC, which means that it will generally take a long time for the transaction to get confirmed.

However, this is the transaction that actually got confirmed:

https://archive.is/T1lGY

This new transaction has a higher miner's fee, and because it made it into the blockchain, it invalidates the first transaction.

This means that the user was able to credit his account on our site, play the games on our site, and then invalidate the transaction as though it never happened.

The reason why the user decided to try to invalidate the first transaction is that he played a single 2.1 BTC game of Dice and then lost. He can then revert the transaction and get his coins back. If he were to win in that game of Dice, he just lets the original transaction continue until it confirms and eventually he can withdraw his winnings.

In the past few days we were able to find quite a few double spend attempts with similar deposits, mostly coming from a handful of addresses. We were able to stop most of the attacks by making it impossible for the user to withdraw his winnings.

A lot of the double spend attacks were coming from this particular address:

https://archive.is/5bTKf

If you follow through some of the transactions you can see that blockchain.info is declaring them to be double spends.

So, we know without a doubt that some accounts were used for double spends. We can then compare these invalid accounts with the account that unibtc4real claims is legitimate, to see what similarities there are. If there are enough similarities, it should then be possible to associate this account with all of the other illegitimate ones, and declare this to be an attempted double spend.

I will list those similarities now:

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The double spend accounts all used a tiny 0.000001 BTC miner's fee. Unibtc4real's account also used a 0.000001 BTC fee.

The double spend accounts were created around the same time as Unibtc4real's account.

The double spend accounts played Dice, betting the full balance in giant bets. The double spend accounts would bet 10+ BTC in single bets. Unibtc4real's account also played dice for enormous bets. His account has giant bets for 11, 12, 13+ BTC. It is rare (and risky!) for our users to make such giant bets on our site. The reason for doing this in a double spend attack is to quickly win or lose the coins so that you have enough time to undo the transaction if you lose.

The double spend accounts mostly played Dice with about an 80% chance of winning. Unibtc4real's account also played Dice at the 80% win setting.

The double spend accounts sent me emails as two different people saying that their funds were locked. However, I was able to see that they are the same person, since both of those double spend accounts were funded by 18zRryZwo7KefNGiFM5SLBsMVZA4TPwaLd . So the double spend user has no problem sending emails pretending to be someone else. Unibtc4real also sent me emails saying that his funds were locked, but he accidentally used two different email accounts with two different names, despite the conversation continuing as though he were the same person. So the double spend users and Unibtc4real both switch between different aliases.

The double spend emails were sent at 7:56 and 8:27 am (EST). Unibtc4real sent his emails at 7:46, 8:02, and 8:51. So if you sort the timing of the emails, you get 7:46, 7:56, 8:02, 8:27, 8:51. These times are all very close to each other, and could imply that it is the same person writing all emails within the same timespan.

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Each single piece of evidence is not strong enough to claim that Unibtc4real's account is associated with with the double spenders (the accounts that we 100% KNOW were double spending). But taken together, all of these similarities lead us to believe that Unibtc4real's account is controlled by the same person that controlled the double spend accounts.

So that's what we know. Any feedback would be great! Smiley

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May 14, 2015, 11:24:31 AM
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Hello BitcoinVideoPoker, regarding to the double-spend scenario I would recommend to keep the coins, there's just too much evidence(have you checked the IP also.I think you did but what do you know).I would recommend to accept 0 confirmation deposits(most of the people hate waiting) but only under some circumstances.Accept tx's that pays at least 0.0001BTC fee per 1KB.That should sort all the things out.

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I will try my best to show what we know regarding Unibtc4real's account.

First things first, cheating is absolutely not allowed on this site. If you get caught cheating, you lose your account and all coins. We are very clear about that in the terms of service. We never cheat our users, and expect the same in return.

Below is an example of a recent double spend on BVC:

https://archive.is/hR49i

The 2.1 BTC was sent to 16nuq6EU9wRgpXK9BLN1iz5hEWb2Xg966o which is a deposit address on our site. The transaction has a very miners low fee of only 0.000001  BTC, which means that it will generally take a long time for the transaction to get confirmed.

However, this is the transaction that actually got confirmed:

https://archive.is/T1lGY

This new transaction has a higher miner's fee, and because it made it into the blockchain, it invalidates the first transaction.

This means that the user was able to credit his account on our site, play the games on our site, and then invalidate the transaction as though it never happened.

The reason why the user decided to try to invalidate the first transaction is that he played a single 2.1 BTC game of Dice and then lost. He can then revert the transaction and get his coins back. If he were to win in that game of Dice, he just lets the original transaction continue until it confirms and eventually he can withdraw his winnings.

In the past few days we were able to find quite a few double spend attempts with similar deposits, mostly coming from a handful of addresses. We were able to stop most of the attacks by making it impossible for the user to withdraw his winnings.

A lot of the double spend attacks were coming from this particular address:

https://archive.is/5bTKf

If you follow through some of the transactions you can see that blockchain.info is declaring them to be double spends.

So, we know without a doubt that some accounts were used for double spends. We can then compare these invalid accounts with the account that unibtc4real claims is legitimate, to see what similarities there are. If there are enough similarities, it should then be possible to associate this account with all of the other illegitimate ones, and declare this to be an attempted double spend.

I will list those similarities now:

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The double spend accounts all used a tiny 0.000001 BTC miner's fee. Unibtc4real's account also used a 0.000001 BTC fee.

The double spend accounts were created around the same time as Unibtc4real's account.

The double spend accounts played Dice, betting the full balance in giant bets. The double spend accounts would bet 10+ BTC in single bets. Unibtc4real's account also played dice for enormous bets. His account has giant bets for 11, 12, 13+ BTC. It is rare (and risky!) for our users to make such giant bets on our site. The reason for doing this in a double spend attack is to quickly win or lose the coins so that you have enough time to undo the transaction if you lose.

The double spend accounts mostly played Dice with about an 80% chance of winning. Unibtc4real's account also played Dice at the 80% win setting.

The double spend accounts sent me emails as two different people saying that their funds were locked. However, I was able to see that they are the same person, since both of those double spend accounts were funded by 18zRryZwo7KefNGiFM5SLBsMVZA4TPwaLd . So the double spend user has no problem sending emails pretending to be someone else. Unibtc4real also sent me emails saying that his funds were locked, but he accidentally used two different email accounts with two different names, despite the conversation continuing as though he were the same person. So the double spend users and Unibtc4real both switch between different aliases.

The double spend emails were sent at 7:56 and 8:27 am (EST). Unibtc4real sent his emails at 7:46, 8:02, and 8:51. So if you sort the timing of the emails, you get 7:46, 7:56, 8:02, 8:27, 8:51. These times are all very close to each other, and could imply that it is the same person writing all emails within the same timespan.

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Each single piece of evidence is not strong enough to claim that Unibtc4real's account is associated with with the double spenders (the accounts that we 100% KNOW were double spending). But taken together, all of these similarities lead us to believe that Unibtc4real's account is controlled by the same person that controlled the double spend accounts.

So that's what we know. Any feedback would be great! Smiley

I will try to answer as much as i can regarding your accusations..

The address that you gave has no relation at all to my account. My deposit address on my account is 1PbKZZXPLVLzfhsKQxtXjujRa2a5vmpb9p, and looking at the taint analysis of my deposit address, it has no relatation at all to the address that you gave. You just throw out an address that has mutliple transactions with double spends and just say its me lol. But then again, blockchain says otherwise.. https://blockchain.info/taint/1PbKZZXPLVLzfhsKQxtXjujRa2a5vmpb9p

Regarding the fee..this one is ridiculous lol.. I did lower the fee for my transaction since, the volume of the transaction is big that it does not need a bigger fee. The transaction even tho with low fee, still has high priority due to the fact that the transaction is bigger. When a transaction has a low fee or even 0 fee, as long as it has high priority, its almost impossible to be double spent as miner's mem pool already seen the transaction and will reject any same transactions.  The total output of my transaction is 18.362049 BTC which was big enough to have a lower fee and yet get high priority and won't need to wait days to get confirmed.
https://blockchain.info/tx/7560cf6c062d0e7899d8030fa6570f1d0becc853171456e33dc3080499b28592?show_adv=true

Regarding the time. My account was created/generated almost same time as the deposit which is 2015-05-13 07:54:54. I don't know what time you where double spent since you have not given anything that relates the time of my account to the time of the said double spents..

And about betting lol. How many people have bet the same 1 btc on 40% 50% etc.. Having the same bet as someone else does not mean they are the same person. I do admit that i did bet big amounts but not at 80%. I did bet basing on the max profit on the site which is 0.5.. so have a bankroll of 10btc,  i bet on around 94.4% above.. Which contradicts your statement that i was betting at 80% which is not possible on betting at 10btc+..

Now regarding the email. I did emailed you and two email accounts, and i never said on my emails that i was a different person.. I first sent an email to you via my hotmail account  http://s28.postimg.org/s226h3lq5/email1.png And after some minutes i thought that you might not be receiving my emails, so i did emailed you again on my gmail account, and i did literally said that i was the same person that emailed you from my hotmail.. http://s28.postimg.org/kjefuq4zh/email2.png

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Unibtc4real also sent me emails saying that his funds were locked, but he accidentally used two different email accounts with two different names, despite the conversation continuing as though he were the same person.

You never replied to either of my emails, so i dont see where we even had a conversation lol. I did sent you an email, but how can you say that i accidentally uses two different account. When i emailed you on my gmail account i already said that it was me who emailed from hotmail, So where is the "accidentally" there?

Also you said that you have mostly caught the double spent accounts and locked them from cashing out, IF i was the culprit, and i know that my doublespent accounts are already locked, then WHY would I even bother depositing another 10BTC if i already know that you guys are already on it...Someone that has a knowledge to double spent big amount of btc is smart enough not to deposit anymore and just walk away..

You have said it your self, Your evidence are all mere speculations and implications with no hard proof. All the things you have given are not even related to the account in question in here..

The mere FACT that my account which has 1PbKZZXPLVLzfhsKQxtXjujRa2a5vmpb9p as a deposit address are not involved nor was a double spent..

Im raising this issue to scam accusation since there is not hard evidence given, and the fact that my account was not a double spent transaction nor is involved in any. You can't just take my 10BTC with just mere speculations... I can only see three  things that will end this, one, you unlock my balance let me play normally like any other players, two, give back my deposit of 10btc since i never lost that at all and we can part ways.. or three, i will have to live to the fact that 10 btc was stolen from me, and you will have to live to the fact that you have stolen 10btc from someone you wrongfully accused. and ofcourse negative feedback..
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May 15, 2015, 03:40:22 AM
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BitcoinVideoPoker - I must say I find it disturbing you are so revealing about your user's activities on your site.  Do you not have a privacy policy?  Or do you ignore privacy if you feel you are being scammed?   Undecided

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May 15, 2015, 05:00:29 AM
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BitcoinVideoPoker - I must say I find it disturbing you are so revealing about your user's activities on your site.  Do you not have a privacy policy?  Or do you ignore privacy if you feel you are being scammed?   Undecided

So their TOS says:
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Your Personal Information Using this website is completely anonymous. We do not collect any personal data, so we therefore have no personal data to give out. Our web server may sometimes record your IP address in its log files; however, we do not make use of that information and it will never be given out to anyone.

It could be argued that a bitcoin address is personal information, but it could be better argued that bitcoin addresses are publicly available information.  Anyone with access to the blockchain, so everyone, can see every in use bitcoin address.  BVC did not reveal this person's IP as they've said they wouldn't, and they have not revealed the aliases or email addresses used by the person they've accused of misconduct.  I think BVC has held up its end of the agreement here.
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May 15, 2015, 06:12:20 AM
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BitcoinVideoPoker - I must say I find it disturbing you are so revealing about your user's activities on your site.  Do you not have a privacy policy?  Or do you ignore privacy if you feel you are being scammed?   Undecided

We haven't shown any information to personally identify the person. His name, email address, IP address, etc.

We are presenting our side of the story and hoping that the community can help resolve this issue.

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May 15, 2015, 07:35:28 AM
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We are presenting our side of the story and hoping that the community can help resolve this issue.

In reading through the thread, this comment struck me as unfair:

The transaction has a very miners low fee of only 0.000001  BTC, which means that it will generally take a long time for the transaction to get confirmed.

This isn't true. Fees are only required if the priority of the transaction is too low. You can figure around 1 "BTC day" of input weight as the threshold.

unibtc.4real's deposit has 3 inputs worth around 18 BTC in total, each about 4 hours old. That gives a weight of around 3 BTC days which should be plenty to qualify as a fee-free transaction.

While it seems strange that unibtc.4real is using the exact same fee as the attacker, it strikes me that they both may have just used something like the "frugal fee" box on blockchain.info's wallet webapp. It has been a long time since I used it, but from what I remember it has predefined fee settings. If the fee both these guys used corresponds to a preset in a popular wallet app then this looks much less suspicious.

The main thing that raised my suspicions wasn't any of the points you made, but this:

I can only see three  things that will end this, one, you unlock my balance let me play normally like any other players, two, give back my deposit of 10btc since i never lost that at all and we can part ways.. or three, i will have to live to the fact that 10 btc was stolen from me, and you will have to live to the fact that you have stolen 10btc from someone you wrongfully accused. and ofcourse negative feedback..

If I was falsely accused of cheating, there's no way I would propose settling for just my deposit back. "I risked my coins and won, dammit! Pay up!" would be my attitude.

I don't envy you the position you find yourselves in now. You don't want to let the scammer get away with it, but you also don't want to punish an innocent player. I guess the solution here is to either stop accepting zero-conf deposits or at least restrict the range of deposits you credit instantly. Maybe insist on a certain fee, only offer instant deposits up to a certain size, limit it to accounts with a certain betting volume, etc.

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May 15, 2015, 07:58:12 AM
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We are presenting our side of the story and hoping that the community can help resolve this issue.

In reading through the thread, this comment struck me as unfair:

The transaction has a very miners low fee of only 0.000001  BTC, which means that it will generally take a long time for the transaction to get confirmed.

This isn't true. Fees are only required if the priority of the transaction is too low. You can figure around 1 "BTC day" of input weight as the threshold.

unibtc.4real's deposit has 3 inputs worth around 18 BTC in total, each about 4 hours old. That gives a weight of around 3 BTC days which should be plenty to qualify as a fee-free transaction.

While it seems strange that unibtc.4real is using the exact same fee as the attacker, it strikes me that they both may have just used something like the "frugal fee" box on blockchain.info's wallet webapp. It has been a long time since I used it, but from what I remember it has predefined fee settings. If the fee both these guys used corresponds to a preset in a popular wallet app then this looks much less suspicious.

The main thing that raised my suspicions wasn't any of the points you made, but this:

I can only see three  things that will end this, one, you unlock my balance let me play normally like any other players, two, give back my deposit of 10btc since i never lost that at all and we can part ways.. or three, i will have to live to the fact that 10 btc was stolen from me, and you will have to live to the fact that you have stolen 10btc from someone you wrongfully accused. and ofcourse negative feedback..

If I was falsely accused of cheating, there's no way I would propose settling for just my deposit back. "I risked my coins and won, dammit! Pay up!" would be my attitude.

I don't envy you the position you find yourselves in now. You don't want to let the scammer get away with it, but you also don't want to punish an innocent player. I guess the solution here is to either stop accepting zero-conf deposits or at least restrict the range of deposits you credit instantly. Maybe insist on a certain fee, only offer instant deposits up to a certain size, limit it to accounts with a certain betting volume, etc.


The fact that he will actually not give my whole btc back including the winnings since it will make him stupid and that according to previous history of the site,they never actually give back any btc they have stolen (basing on the reviews i found on the net), so im giving him the option to just give my deposit back, a 4 btc loss is better than a 14btc loss. Basing on different scam reviews i found against them, its not the first time this has happened.
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bitcoinvideocasino.com
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/bitcoinvideocasino.com
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May 15, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
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My opinion:

I'm looking at unibtc.4real signature address 1Uni1bGoEeDfdW2skwv2JihHrnrJe5RQf

All sent transactions here
https://blockchain.info/address/1Uni1bGoEeDfdW2skwv2JihHrnrJe5RQf?offset=0&filter=1
Mostly are .0002 fee, sometimes .0004 fee when many inputs.  So perhaps an older version of electrum which uses a .0002 btc/1kb default fee.

It is very inconsistent and shady to have such a low fee 0.000001 when you never customized your fee before.

You also can't reason out the location since i do use vpns to log and play on different sites.
Interesting that you prepared a defense for this already when nothing was mentioned about about location.


I really hope this will get fixed soon.. And like you said from your previous replies, i think its good to require 1 confirmation for deposits like other casinos do.

This is inconsistent on how you felt before:


The features I'd like to see OR improved are the following:

1. Deposit balance needs 1 confirmation. These days, 1 confirmation sometimes takes ages for bitcoin network to confirm. I'd like to see an instant credit even with 0 confirmation. Alot of gambling sites do this with no issues.



give back my deposit of 10btc since i never lost that at all and we can part ways

Agree with dooglus here, no legitimate honest customer would be fine in parting ways if they were indeed scammed. Only a double spender would be happy to get back the deposit.
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May 15, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
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The fact that he will actually not give my whole btc back including the winnings since it will make him stupid and that according to previous history of the site,they never actually give back any btc they have stolen (basing on the reviews i found on the net), so im giving him the option to just give my deposit back, a 4 btc loss is better than a 14btc loss.

If he's stolen your coins, he's stolen your coins. You don't get to give him any options.

Basing on different scam reviews i found against them, its not the first time this has happened.
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bitcoinvideocasino.com
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/bitcoinvideocasino.com

Those sites are a joke. The reviews are way off base. I saw one where the reviewer was talking about having played poker on PrimeDice. I think they must be paid reviews by a competitor site deliberately discrediting the competition. Check the other reviews by the authors who reviewed this place and you'll find they had similarly horrible experiences everywhere else they played too.

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May 15, 2015, 10:53:05 AM
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My opinion:

I'm looking at unibtc.4real signature address 1Uni1bGoEeDfdW2skwv2JihHrnrJe5RQf

All sent transactions here
https://blockchain.info/address/1Uni1bGoEeDfdW2skwv2JihHrnrJe5RQf?offset=0&filter=1
Mostly are .0002 fee, sometimes .0004 fee when many inputs.  So perhaps an older version of electrum which uses a .0002 btc/1kb default fee.

It is very inconsistent and shady to have such a low fee 0.000001 when you never customized your fee before.

You also can't reason out the location since i do use vpns to log and play on different sites.
Interesting that you prepared a defense for this already when nothing was mentioned about about location.


I really hope this will get fixed soon.. And like you said from your previous replies, i think its good to require 1 confirmation for deposits like other casinos do.

This is inconsistent on how you felt before:


The features I'd like to see OR improved are the following:

1. Deposit balance needs 1 confirmation. These days, 1 confirmation sometimes takes ages for bitcoin network to confirm. I'd like to see an instant credit even with 0 confirmation. Alot of gambling sites do this with no issues.



give back my deposit of 10btc since i never lost that at all and we can part ways

Agree with dooglus here, no legitimate honest customer would be fine in parting ways if they were indeed scammed. Only a double spender would be happy to get back the deposit.

I'm not going to argue about topics that are irrelevant to the issue, that address has not been used for some time now.. But the real issue here is the admin has no hard facts that connects my account to the accounts that attacked his site.. Similarities are not proof of any crime or misconduct.. I have explained my side of the story and I stand my ground that my account and/or me did not commit the said double spent attack.
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May 16, 2015, 12:33:19 PM
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hey ppl, bitcoin minefield admin here, just letting you know that Unibtc4real tried a double spend on my site too.
just in case anyone is unsure about if he is legit or not.

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May 16, 2015, 12:56:07 PM
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hey ppl, bitcoin minefield admin here, just letting you know that Unibtc4real tried a double spend on my site too.
just in case anyone is unsure about if he is legit or not.

Wow thanks so much for letting us know! Much appreciated! Smiley

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May 16, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
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The fact that he will actually not give my whole btc back including the winnings since it will make him stupid and that according to previous history of the site,they never actually give back any btc they have stolen (basing on the reviews i found on the net), so im giving him the option to just give my deposit back, a 4 btc loss is better than a 14btc loss.

If he's stolen your coins, he's stolen your coins. You don't get to give him any options.

Basing on different scam reviews i found against them, its not the first time this has happened.
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bitcoinvideocasino.com
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/bitcoinvideocasino.com

Those sites are a joke. The reviews are way off base. I saw one where the reviewer was talking about having played poker on PrimeDice. I think they must be paid reviews by a competitor site deliberately discrediting the competition. Check the other reviews by the authors who reviewed this place and you'll find they had similarly horrible experiences everywhere else they played too.

Those sites are ridiculous!

An example review:

"You go through a very long process of signing up. It took them 72 hours to verify my account, which is way too long. They weren’t apologetic either and came up with a story saying that my ID was unreadable, which is a complete lie. Then you deposit some Bitcoin into your account and get a sign up bonus..."

1. We have no sign up or verification process whatsoever
2. We never ask for ID
3. We don't give sign up bonuses because our house edge is too low.

I guess we should be honored that people are spending time and money on writing fake reviews about Bitcoin Video Casino...? Smiley

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