[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[AleScamHole]

I am actually trying to find out some shit about this coin before it launches but it seems you guys are just spam fighting.

1. Do you need to be a delegate to stake?
2. Can Delegates reverse transactions?
3. is 101 the cap for delegates?
4. Can delegates be removed?
5. Will trezor and other hardware wallets that work of seed phrases be able to support lisk?

i can answer what i know to help ;p

1. yes. siNce it uses the DPoS system, delegates are one's recieving the "stakes" only.
2. no, delegates cannot reverse tx's, as they are each a separate person (or group) and only have the power of their votes vs everyone else
3. 101 is the cap yes. for now. this has been briefly touched on as could be raised in future as needed
4. yes. they are voted in and can be voted OUT the same (doing stuff community doesnt like , etc.)
5. idk ;p

hope that helps, lisk chat and forums are best places for info

I think I am going to focus on ethereum for now, the delegate system is a turn off, I have seen the bitcoin community and those trusted in it. I don't know how well I would trust a community is a frenzy on voting and being able to vote out anyone that goes against the grain.

that's cool man.  Each person has to fill their own Crypto-portfolio with solid projects they align themselves with.
To Each Their Own.
See you around

noooo this is our lisk troll thread your supposed to say    fuk you! gtfo then , call them a shill or fudster or some shit!

[Bigcabrito]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

[iambitcoin5]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree. 

[LegendaryMiner]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

[ibrahim11]

I missed the ICO is it a good idea to buy lisk at launch or will it be too high then?

Maybe it's better to buy over the course of a few weeks. Every day a small chunk.

Yeah but on the launch day I don't know if price will be extremely high or extremely low or just average?? How much was the ico price for 1 lisk? Is 1.5btc investment into LISK a good idea when it launches?

[michaelwang33]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

thats what i like to hear launch on 24th, its good thing they are not interested in price. their motivation should be the same if the value increase 10x or decreases massively too.

lisk just wont have that run until people have not jumped from one ico to another thats why the true rise will be after 4 months until then chill. unless another coin with better tech doesnt come lisk will be interesting but they need better dapps not joke ones

[AleScamHole]

I missed the ICO is it a good idea to buy lisk at launch or will it be too high then?

Maybe it's better to buy over the course of a few weeks. Every day a small chunk.

Yeah but on the launch day I don't know if price will be extremely high or extremely low or just average?? How much was the ico price for 1 lisk? Is 1.5btc investment into LISK a good idea when it launches?

dude who knows really ;\
my GUESS is we will have "profit dumpers" people happy with easy profit, maybe a few whales even, that sell around 0.0005-0.001-
big projects have "accumulation" stages after the initial dumps. that could be weeks, months, (years?)
when YOU get in and for what price you buy in at (and later sell at) is SOLELY dependent on
your own view on the length of maturity on investment with lisk
your own personal "sell price" (based on many personal factors.
what you plan on doing with your lisk after you buy it and b4 u sell it

so what price to buy in at? is 1.5btc enough?  
well that's up to you friend
O and the ICO price finished about 18.5k shatoshi per lisk if i remember right

good luck!

[michaelwang33]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress

[AleScamHole]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress

mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare   DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

[michaelwang33]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress

mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare   DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

you dirty little smelly girl

whether im a investor or not it dont matter what i am saying makes sense you bitch.
you prick i didnt say everyone i said alot otherwise there wouldnt be more talk of bullshit prices than tech you dipshit and the decentralization lisk has is nothing new others have got it too, its the sidechains people like about it. lisk isnt the first decentralized coin you rag doll

lisk is another coin just to make money

[LegendaryMiner]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress

mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare   DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

you dirty little smelly girl

whether im a investor or not it dont matter what i am saying makes sense you bitch.
you prick i didnt say everyone i said alot otherwise there wouldnt be more talk of bullshit prices than tech you dipshit and the decentralization lisk has is nothing new others have got it too, its the sidechains people like about it. lisk isnt the first decentralized coin you rag doll

lisk is another coin just to make money

Money, money... Yeah, but even with all these ICOs around, after the Lisk launch it has potential to remain a smart option to make $$, with a reasonable risk.

[michaelwang33]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress

mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare   DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

you dirty little smelly girl

whether im a investor or not it dont matter what i am saying makes sense you bitch.
you prick i didnt say everyone i said alot otherwise there wouldnt be more talk of bullshit prices than tech you dipshit and the decentralization lisk has is nothing new others have got it too, its the sidechains people like about it. lisk isnt the first decentralized coin you rag doll

lisk is another coin just to make money

Money, money... Yeah, but even with all these ICOs around, after the Lisk launch it has potential to remain a smart option to make $$, with a reasonable risk.

yes after 4months we will see. until then dumps everywhere

[LiskYork]

Guys enjoy your day today and.think in great dapp ideas, great future ahead!!!!!!

[TorinT]

I really enjoy this thread. All this noise, all this accusation. 

[ttookk]

I'm just gonna repost this. Seems relevant atm.

You guys are nuts. And from what I've read so far, I mean all of you.

On the one side all those "Lisk is gonna fail" fudsters. You said it several times now, we heard you. We got it, you don't like this project, Max is basically still wearing diapers or something along those lines, javascript sucks anyway and I'm sure, someone's mom is fat.
I wonder what it is that makes you go to this thread and click on the "reply" button. Do you really have nothing better to do? How about developing some smart contracts for Ethereum, that you seem to love so much? Or developing your own crypto 2.0 currency, that makes everything right Lisk did wrong? Or a nice walk in the sun? Summer is coming, go eat some icecream. You can tell the icecream guy afterwards that you had way better icecream at that other place, or whatever you do when you interact with real people.

On the other side you "Lisk = 10$!!!1!!" guys. Do you really think you can make this a reality, just by saying it often enough? Guess what: Dapps don't develop themselves and it will take time. So, how about instead of going here and enter this intense virtual screaming match, you come up with some ideas how Lisk can actually be used* for something else than waiting for the cryptocurrency-fairy, that turns the BTC you stored under your pillow in even more BTC? You want Lisk to become the best thing since sliced bread and become filthy rich? Guess what, you gotta do, what everyone else does: You gotta work for it.

*drops mic*

*don't know where to start? How about here: https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=8
The Dapp-forum is public for a reason. Input is greatly appreciated.

[xcurry]

There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Im glad to see this announcement, i can't wait for launch after past delays. I hope "everyone want the delay until at least 1st of june" is not too dissapointed, think positive

[Xpedite]

LISK could be closing the project to re-launch a third one and you idiots would still crowdfund it.

And it's not just LISK, people are doing similar shit with ''The DAO'' for Ethereum at the moment. Jumping in, hoping for the moon, not understanding what the fuck it is about.

''Launch in September, we'll have killer apps by then''.

No you fucking won't. Show me one ''killer'' app that's under development.

"Javascript dapp will be huge"

Please tell me how. You tell the average joe right now how a decentralised app is going to rock his world. A new paradigm. Bla bla. Give me a few GOOD reasons why dapps are so revolutionary that Lisk is the next unicorm. They're not. No one needs dapps. No one gives a shit. Smart contracts is more where it's at.

Untill I read your last two sentences, I was like : That much wisdom from a newbie account 
I totally agree with you that people do no research whatsoever when investing. It's just a crapshoot hoping to get in on that get rich quick project that may never come.
On the other hand , what is it that makes you believe that smart contracts is the game changer?
There's nothing smart about smart contracts, it's just about verifying a certain set of rules. The issue is that in order to verify something you most certainly need an external source of information which will likely cause centralisation anyway. 

This ICO and DAO hype is vaporware and shitcoin 2.0 all over again. Anyone with some knowledge of  blockchain can draft a new revolutionary platform while in the end it'll be just as different from the existing platforms as those 500+ shitcoins are different from bitcoin.

My advise to anyone: Before investing in anything, compare these offerings to what happens in the business world. Companies that get +1 M$ in their series A round have a way better risk/reward ratio than anything you'll find in crypto. 

Those that are around long enough have seen this all before, some dev promising the

To me personally all this vaporware is the main reason why blockchain is not getting it's break through as expected through public chains but will need the legacy companies to adopt the blockchain first and hope enough tricles down to enforce some success for the public chains. Reality will probably be more nuanced but you get my point.

[LegendaryMiner]

We should change the title of this thread to Lisk Trollbox

Better to keep that way, at least nobody pollutes the Lisk Chat.

[SilverCondor]

LISK could be closing the project to re-launch a third one and you idiots would still crowdfund it.

And it's not just LISK, people are doing similar shit with ''The DAO'' for Ethereum at the moment. Jumping in, hoping for the moon, not understanding what the fuck it is about.

''Launch in September, we'll have killer apps by then''.

No you fucking won't. Show me one ''killer'' app that's under development.

"Javascript dapp will be huge"

Please tell me how. You tell the average joe right now how a decentralised app is going to rock his world. A new paradigm. Bla bla. Give me a few GOOD reasons why dapps are so revolutionary that Lisk is the next unicorm. They're not. No one needs dapps. No one gives a shit. Smart contracts is more where it's at.

Untill I read your last two sentences, I was like : That much wisdom from a newbie account 
I totally agree with you that people do no research whatsoever when investing. It's just a crapshoot hoping to get in on that get rich quick project that may never come.
On the other hand , what is it that makes you believe that smart contracts is the game changer?
There's nothing smart about smart contracts, it's just about verifying a certain set of rules. The issue is that in order to verify something you most certainly need an external source of information which will likely cause centralisation anyway. 

This ICO and DAO hype is vaporware and shitcoin 2.0 all over again. Anyone with some knowledge of  blockchain can draft a new revolutionary platform while in the end it'll be just as different from the existing platforms as those 500+ shitcoins are different from bitcoin.

My advise to anyone: Before investing in anything, compare these offerings to what happens in the business world. Companies that get +1 M$ in their series A round have a way better risk/reward ratio than anything you'll find in crypto. 

Those that are around long enough have seen this all before, some dev promising the

To me personally all this vaporware is the main reason why blockchain is not getting it's break through as expected through public chains but will need the legacy companies to adopt the blockchain first and hope enough tricles down to enforce some success for the public chains. Reality will probably be more nuanced but you get my point.

Simple "shitcoin" would not received $6 millions of investments

[newbtcminer]

Simple "shitcoin" would not received $6 millions of investments

I like this project and I hope it does well, but the amount of money invested isn't the only thing that determines success of a project. I mean, just look at some of the projects on Kickstarter. There have been projects with tons of money thrown at them that completely bombed due to the simple fact that the team developing the product was incompetent. Look past the hype/FUD if you have the time and check the strength of the community, competence of the developers, and potential in the idea itself. Those are the three main things I'm looking for at least.