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[tech72]

Can DPOS blockchain survive for a long run?

Please somebody highlight me for something that I dont know.  

Because DPOS servers are depending on = total delegates.

LISK has 101 delegates. Meaning LISK has = 101 servers. And I assume, most of the delegates just using VPS server to running their nodes.

Can with only 101 server / VPS handle thousand of DAPPS like Ethereum? Including million of request / traffic / band-witch per-day?

Or did I miss something?

Look at Facebook, look at Google, see how many servers they are currently running to handle billion of request/traffic every day.

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[cc001]

Can DPOS blockchain survive for a long run?

Please somebody highlight me for something that I dont know.  

Because DPOS servers are depending on = total delegates.

LISK has 101 delegates. Meaning LISK has = 101 servers. And I assume, most of the delegates just using VPS server to running their nodes.

Can with only 101 server / VPS handle thousand of DAPPS like Ethereum? Including million of request / traffic / band-witch per-day?

Or did I miss something?

Look at Facebook, look at Google, see how many servers they are currently running to handle billion of request/traffic every day.

hey tech72
here some answers:

the number of delegates (101) could be increased in the future if needed and when the network grows.
most of the delegates don't use only cheap VPS, but pretty strong dedicated servers.
those servers on the mainchain don't need to handle thousands of Blockchain apps, because every blockchain app will run on its own sidechain with its own delegates. That's the beauty of the concept with the sidechains. The mainchain delegates need to handle only the traffic and transactions on the mainchain, which is basically sendind LSK, voting, and registering sidechains. All the traffic from apps are handled on their own sidechain by other delegates (depends on the creator of the app how his consensus works and who are the delegates, if any)

[tech72]

Can DPOS blockchain survive for a long run?

Please somebody highlight me for something that I dont know.  

Because DPOS servers are depending on = total delegates.

LISK has 101 delegates. Meaning LISK has = 101 servers. And I assume, most of the delegates just using VPS server to running their nodes.

Can with only 101 server / VPS handle thousand of DAPPS like Ethereum? Including million of request / traffic / band-witch per-day?

Or did I miss something?

Look at Facebook, look at Google, see how many servers they are currently running to handle billion of request/traffic every day.

hey tech72
here some answers:

the number of delegates (101) could be increased in the future if needed and when the network grows.
most of the delegates don't use only cheap VPS, but pretty strong dedicated servers.
those servers on the mainchain don't need to handle thousands of Blockchain apps, because every blockchain app will run on its own sidechain with its own delegates. That's the beauty of the concept with the sidechains. The mainchain delegates need to handle only the traffic and transactions on the mainchain, which is basically sendind LSK, voting, and registering sidechains. All the traffic from apps are handled on their own sidechain by other delegates (depends on the creator of the app how his consensus works and who are the delegates, if any)

Ok this is what I need.

Very nice. Thank you.

Now I have more confident to hold this coin or any DPOS coin for more longer.

Yes, I like DPOS blockchain because they got side-chain.

[bct_ail]

those servers on the mainchain don't need to handle thousands of Blockchain apps, because every blockchain app will run on its own sidechain with its own delegates. That's the beauty of the concept with the sidechains. The mainchain delegates need to handle only the traffic and transactions on the mainchain, which is basically sendind LSK, voting, and registering sidechains. All the traffic from apps are handled on their own sidechain by other delegates (depends on the creator of the app how his consensus works and who are the delegates, if any)

Will there be different numbers of delegates connected to an blockchain app? So does that mean, blockchain app 'A' will have 50 delagates, blockchain app 'B' will have 10 delagates blockchain app 'C' will have 160 delagates? Who decide which blockchain app gets how many delegates?

[veke]

Hello all,

I'm new here so I guess most of you don't know me or my work as I'm usually only available in lisk.chat or reddit.

I recently my delegate vekexasia got in active position as a 25% profit share pool cause of my passionate dedication toward lisk community and ecosystem.

As a matter of fact, to date, I've done several things to improve Lisk and here is a quick summary:

• I've debugged and provided `PoC` to LiskHQ for a bug in lisk-core -> read it on lisk official blog here -> https://blog.lisk.io/stopping-the-stopchain-bug-e971b2654014
• I've investigated and provided an in-depth analysis of another bug in LISK (and other coins) so that mq could fix it -> see conclusions https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-core-0-9-3-properly-handling-votes-rollback-edge-case-bug-squashed-893eb201ad0c#367d
• I'm the man behind https://dpostools.com/LISK
• I've built a telegram bot for delegates https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1545
• I've built a js library for offline tx signing -> https://github.com/vekexasia/dpos-offline
• I'm going to build something awesome for all delegates once lisk-nano 1.2.0 gets released
• Also member of LIG (Lisk Italian Group) https://liskitalian.group & Lisk builders https://lisk.builders

I'm also working on ledger nano integration for lisk. (Currently i'm still experimenting with it) but -> https://i.imgur.com/BNt76QG.jpg

If you'd like you could support me by voting vekexasia

Cheers to all.

[tech72]

Hello all,

I'm new here so I guess most of you don't know me or my work as I'm usually only available in lisk.chat or reddit.

I recently my delegate vekexasia got in active position as a 25% profit share pool cause of my passionate dedication toward lisk community and ecosystem.

As a matter of fact, to date, I've done several things to improve Lisk and here is a quick summary:

• I've debugged and provided `PoC` to LiskHQ for a bug in lisk-core -> read it on lisk official blog here -> https://blog.lisk.io/stopping-the-stopchain-bug-e971b2654014
• I've investigated and provided an in-depth analysis of another bug in LISK (and other coins) so that mq could fix it -> see conclusions https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-core-0-9-3-properly-handling-votes-rollback-edge-case-bug-squashed-893eb201ad0c#367d
• I'm the man behind https://dpostools.com/LISK
• I've built a telegram bot for delegates https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1545
• I've built a js library for offline tx signing -> https://github.com/vekexasia/dpos-offline
• I'm going to build something awesome for all delegates once lisk-nano 1.2.0 gets released
• Also member of LIG (Lisk Italian Group) https://liskitalian.group & Lisk builders https://lisk.builders

I'm also working on ledger nano integration for lisk. (Currently i'm still experimenting with it) but ->

If you'd like you could support me by voting vekexasia

Cheers to all.

You're top guy. Lead developer for OXY and RISE, founder of dpostool.com & running a delegates for LISK, SHIFT, RISE and OXY next lol.

[punkrock]

those servers on the mainchain don't need to handle thousands of Blockchain apps, because every blockchain app will run on its own sidechain with its own delegates. That's the beauty of the concept with the sidechains. The mainchain delegates need to handle only the traffic and transactions on the mainchain, which is basically sendind LSK, voting, and registering sidechains. All the traffic from apps are handled on their own sidechain by other delegates (depends on the creator of the app how his consensus works and who are the delegates, if any)

Will there be different numbers of delegates connected to an blockchain app? So does that mean, blockchain app 'A' will have 50 delagates, blockchain app 'B' will have 10 delagates blockchain app 'C' will have 160 delagates? Who decide which blockchain app gets how many delegates?

How many delegates are on each sidechain is determined by the app developers. So, yes. It can and most likely will vary.
In theory, you could run Ethereum on a Lisk sidechain.

[bct_ail]

those servers on the mainchain don't need to handle thousands of Blockchain apps, because every blockchain app will run on its own sidechain with its own delegates. That's the beauty of the concept with the sidechains. The mainchain delegates need to handle only the traffic and transactions on the mainchain, which is basically sendind LSK, voting, and registering sidechains. All the traffic from apps are handled on their own sidechain by other delegates (depends on the creator of the app how his consensus works and who are the delegates, if any)

Will there be different numbers of delegates connected to an blockchain app? So does that mean, blockchain app 'A' will have 50 delagates, blockchain app 'B' will have 10 delagates blockchain app 'C' will have 160 delagates? Who decide which blockchain app gets how many delegates?

How many delegates are on each sidechain is determined by the app developers. So, yes. It can and most likely will vary.
In theory, you could run Ethereum on a Lisk sidechain.

Is there a maximum limited number of delegates for a sidechain? Can every delegate choose which sidechain he want to support?

[kaedcoin]

Hello all,

I'm new here so I guess most of you don't know me or my work as I'm usually only available in lisk.chat or reddit.

I recently my delegate vekexasia got in active position as a 25% profit share pool cause of my passionate dedication toward lisk community and ecosystem.

As a matter of fact, to date, I've done several things to improve Lisk and here is a quick summary:

• I've debugged and provided `PoC` to LiskHQ for a bug in lisk-core -> read it on lisk official blog here -> https://blog.lisk.io/stopping-the-stopchain-bug-e971b2654014
• I've investigated and provided an in-depth analysis of another bug in LISK (and other coins) so that mq could fix it -> see conclusions https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-core-0-9-3-properly-handling-votes-rollback-edge-case-bug-squashed-893eb201ad0c#367d
• I'm the man behind https://dpostools.com/LISK
• I've built a telegram bot for delegates https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1545
• I've built a js library for offline tx signing -> https://github.com/vekexasia/dpos-offline
• I'm going to build something awesome for all delegates once lisk-nano 1.2.0 gets released
• Also member of LIG (Lisk Italian Group) https://liskitalian.group & Lisk builders https://lisk.builders

I'm also working on ledger nano integration for lisk. (Currently i'm still experimenting with it) but -> //image removed in quote//

If you'd like you could support me by voting vekexasia

Cheers to all.

Hi and thanks for your work.

Good to see you actively contributing to LISK while sharing at least 25%.

I Hope every delegate sharing less will change their mind, rise their sharing and stop hiding behind false dilemmas.

[LiskPro.com]

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...




Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?
PS : will be fitted inside the next reward !

[kaedcoin]

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...




Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?
PS : will be fitted inside the next reward !

I voted for you yesterday.
And i urge every one to vote for your pool, even if i'm a bad bad bad greedy voter only who does nothing for LSK and doesn't deserve a bigger part of the cake.

Hope you'll share at least 25% more LSK (than what it is atm) when you'll become a forging delegate.

[LiskPro.com]

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...




Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?
PS : will be fitted inside the next reward !

I voted for you yesterday.
And i urge every one to vote for your pool, even if i'm a bad bad bad greedy voter only who does nothing for LSK and doesn't deserve a bigger part of the cake.

Hope you'll share at least 25% more LSK (than what it is atm) when you'll become a forging delegate.

Thank you man !
Of course, when we will be in forging position, we will share more ! and more ! and more !

DPOS system is architected around voters, not around delegates !
Voters must have the voting power ...

[denixspe]

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...


https://i.imgur.com/2y14e9q.jpg

Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?
PS : will be fitted inside the next reward !

Well sir,you have my vote.

[mmfiore]

I have already select my delegates, and you are in.

But i have a question. when we vote, is the vote still " running " forever ? what is the limitation for voting?

Thanks !

[Vega]

But i have a question. when we vote, is the vote still " running " forever ? what is the limitation for voting?

There is no limit, your (account's) votes will remain the same unless you change them.

[nelkins]

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...


https://i.imgur.com/2y14e9q.jpg

Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?
PS : will be fitted inside the next reward !

So do I have to do anything to receive my refund? Or do I vote and after October 1st I receive my refund?   Newby here!

[Bonanzacoin]

People, humans. Lets become aliens and bring Lisk in space on Binance. Suggest lisk to list in coin of the month:

https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001787571

[punkrock]

those servers on the mainchain don't need to handle thousands of Blockchain apps, because every blockchain app will run on its own sidechain with its own delegates. That's the beauty of the concept with the sidechains. The mainchain delegates need to handle only the traffic and transactions on the mainchain, which is basically sendind LSK, voting, and registering sidechains. All the traffic from apps are handled on their own sidechain by other delegates (depends on the creator of the app how his consensus works and who are the delegates, if any)

Will there be different numbers of delegates connected to an blockchain app? So does that mean, blockchain app 'A' will have 50 delagates, blockchain app 'B' will have 10 delagates blockchain app 'C' will have 160 delagates? Who decide which blockchain app gets how many delegates?

How many delegates are on each sidechain is determined by the app developers. So, yes. It can and most likely will vary.
In theory, you could run Ethereum on a Lisk sidechain.

Is there a maximum limited number of delegates for a sidechain? Can every delegate choose which sidechain he want to support?

I don't know how exactly it will work in practice, but most likely like this: You offer your service to secure a sidechain and you get voted in by the sidechain developers.

I have already select my delegates, and you are in.

But i have a question. when we vote, is the vote still " running " forever ? what is the limitation for voting?

Thanks !

You can vote for max. 101 delegates. Your votes "run" until you remove them. Use Lisk Nano. It can vote and unvote in one transaction.

[kaedcoin]

IMHO, in the LISK ecosystem, "vote" is a rather inappropriate word for "support" and that's why it can be a bit confusing for beginners : in fact when you vote, you say "i support these people". You say it only one time for each delegate and that count for a full support as long as you don't cancel this support (by "unvoting" them).

[Samuray]

Hello everyone!
I just increased my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting this week!
For more details about my profit distribution and my contributions to Lisk here:https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&hilit=samuray
Stats here:http://samuray.mylisk.com
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