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RHavar
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August 09, 2016, 03:50:53 PM |
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I'm a gambler for sure, but I never meant to gamble on securty. Bitmex addressed security again in their weekly newsletter - they run the tightest ship I've seen, and I wouldn't have qualms leaving funds on their exchange. The missive is long. Below is just the header, before they plunge into their own security efforts:
I like the tag line, so points for trying. However, I never really had an opinion of Bitmex but the aggressive shilling you're doing and the raving newsletter you guys sent out in a tirade against bitfinnex has never made me have a more negative opinion against an exchange before. And for what it's worth, your advice doesn't really apply to a casino. A casino *has* to have effectively a hot wallet, it might not be a bitcoin hot wallet -- but it'll be server seeds. Without having them on a live server, the casino can't operate. And if an intruder gets access to the the system, they merely need to take note of the server seeds and will allow them to be able to appear as a legitimate, lucky player. From a casinos perspective, it is *much* better if someone just directly takes money from the hot wallet, as this is immediately noticeable. At BitMEX, 2 of 3 partners must sign each withdrawal. If that condition isn’t met, then funds cannot be spent. All signing happens on offline machines ...
That sounds like *terrible* policy. Users hate waiting for funds, and if you're going to make partners sign hundreds of withdrawals per day, how much scrutiny do you really think they'll give each one? Human nature is going to mean they're blindly going to sign off on each one. Now you still basically have your cold wallet, turned into a hot wallet by human automation. As an example, see the 1.8M bitpay theft. That was signed off by a human, and that's even a company that processes very few withdrawals by hand.
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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Bit-Exo.com
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August 10, 2016, 12:59:38 AM |
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We now have weekly wagering contests on our site! For more info see this thread
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Deuceisgood
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August 10, 2016, 01:50:40 AM |
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Please do not shill other sites in our thread (your last several posts are all related to Bitmex). We don't keep much in our hot wallet ...
It is easy and cheap (low) to discredit the messenger rather than address the message. I don't shill for anybody, and in fact do not have an active account at the service mentioned. (They discontinued servicing US-based accounts several months ago, so I haven't traded there since.) Anyway, their services are entirely different than your own, so I don't think anyone would consider them a competitor anyways. I was simply highlighting their security measures, which they describe very clearly. My message reflected a genuine desire to see much better security at my favorite sites. Moneypot has been one of those. Simply assuring us (me) that your use of hot wallets is limited and thus secure, is really just offering up the same reassurance that every other site, including those that have been hacked, have offered up. Your security measures aren't differentiated in any way, and I'm not the only one that has grown more reluctant to send my chips anywhere that hasn't put customer security first.
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Dogedigital (OP)
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August 10, 2016, 01:56:59 AM |
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Please do not shill other sites in our thread (your last several posts are all related to Bitmex). We don't keep much in our hot wallet ...
It is easy and cheap (low) to discredit the messenger rather than address the message. I don't shill for anybody, and in fact do not have an active account at the service mentioned. (They discontinued servicing US-based accounts several months ago, so I haven't traded there since.) Anyway, their services are entirely different than your own, so I don't think anyone would consider them a competitor anyways. I was simply highlighting their security measures, which they describe very clearly. My message reflected a genuine desire to see much better security at my favorite sites. Moneypot has been one of those. Simply assuring us (me) that your use of hot wallets is limited and thus secure, is really just offering up the same reassurance that every other site, including those that have been hacked, have offered up. Your security measures aren't differentiated in any way, and I'm not the only one that has grown more reluctant to send my chips anywhere that hasn't put customer security first. I believe that our security measures for our hot and cold wallets are a bit different than others and we're going to be improving on them quite heavily over the next little while. I'm excited to reveal our new method of handling funds when in place soon.
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August 10, 2016, 03:00:36 AM |
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Please do not shill other sites in our thread (your last several posts are all related to Bitmex). We don't keep much in our hot wallet ...
It is easy and cheap (low) to discredit the messenger rather than address the message. I don't shill for anybody, and in fact do not have an active account at the service mentioned. (They discontinued servicing US-based accounts several months ago, so I haven't traded there since.) Anyway, their services are entirely different than your own, so I don't think anyone would consider them a competitor anyways. I was simply highlighting their security measures, which they describe very clearly. My message reflected a genuine desire to see much better security at my favorite sites. Moneypot has been one of those. Simply assuring us (me) that your use of hot wallets is limited and thus secure, is really just offering up the same reassurance that every other site, including those that have been hacked, have offered up. Your security measures aren't differentiated in any way, and I'm not the only one that has grown more reluctant to send my chips anywhere that hasn't put customer security first. We have better security features than what the have described. As Ryan stated above, processing withdrawals directly from cold storage is only good if you pay attention to each withdrawal. We currently have a 3 tier wallet system (hot, lukewarm, multi-sig cold), and are working on improving this even further. I do not know of any other gambling site that uses a system like ours. We even publicly post the address of the cold address that stores the majority of customer funds. I am not meaning to insult you, but when your past several posts are related to talking about how good Bitmex's wallet system is, it appears like a shill.
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August 10, 2016, 02:12:36 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
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August 10, 2016, 02:15:44 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 day. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
how many BTC did you not get? be relaxed MP is not scam they will pay if you did not cheat. (I am not saying you cheated just telling you to relax cause you get your coins) good luck
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Dogedigital (OP)
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August 10, 2016, 03:00:47 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different.
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August 10, 2016, 03:22:01 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non.
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August 10, 2016, 03:26:13 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. After our investigation is successfully completed, we will process the withdrawal and inform you by ticket and by private message here on bitcointalk. Thank you.
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August 10, 2016, 04:09:49 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. After our investigation is successfully completed, we will process the withdrawal and inform you by ticket and by private message here on bitcointalk. Thank you. This sounds like a job for...... TRANSLATOR MAN! too bad I'm not him though. Good luck
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August 10, 2016, 04:14:01 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. This is totally normal Copypasta, you being one of the highest winners in our history it's just standard precautions. Take no offense from it, standard procedure here.
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August 10, 2016, 04:45:50 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. This is totally normal Copypasta, you being one of the highest winners in our history it's just standard precautions. Take no offense from it, standard procedure here. y take so long 10 coin took fast 1 coin slow. i sory mp no cheat I no cheat i no cum bak agree send coin?
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August 10, 2016, 04:52:15 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. This is totally normal Copypasta, you being one of the highest winners in our history it's just standard precautions. Take no offense from it, standard procedure here. y take so long 10 coin took fast 1 coin slow. i sory mp no cheat I no cheat i no cum bak agree send coin? are yo saying you wait for 1 BTC withdrawal?
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August 10, 2016, 05:00:43 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. This is totally normal Copypasta, you being one of the highest winners in our history it's just standard precautions. Take no offense from it, standard procedure here. y take so long 10 coin took fast 1 coin slow. i sory mp no cheat I no cheat i no cum bak agree send coin? are yo saying you wait for 1 BTC withdrawal? yes i wait 1 coins
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August 10, 2016, 05:07:36 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. This is totally normal Copypasta, you being one of the highest winners in our history it's just standard precautions. Take no offense from it, standard procedure here. y take so long 10 coin took fast 1 coin slow. i sory mp no cheat I no cheat i no cum bak agree send coin? are yo saying you wait for 1 BTC withdrawal? yes i wait 1 coins thx for the answer and sorry that I am asking again you received all your profit beside 1 BTC ? thats all you need to get?
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August 10, 2016, 05:08:51 PM |
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sirs mp is scam. I win lots monies mp tell i cheat. I no cheat. 1 dey i win 1 they take. todey i win 1 they give. But no 1 from 1 dey. Why sirs u think i scam. I no scam. Mp = scam. I no cheat. I win lots monies play hi. No like big winers. I luky chiken no tiawan. I no cheat. I open tiket, mail no reply. Y sirs, no cheat?
Hello Copypasta. I'd like to reiterate what was explained to you in the chat and in our ticket system. Never at any time have we accused you or have claimed that you were cheating. It is standard practice in this industry to investigate high amounts of bitcoin won from newish accounts. We need to do due diligence to protect our users who have contributed to the house bankroll. Once the investigation is successfully completed, we will happily process your withdrawal. Just for the record, you have received every requested cashout up to this point of time. edit; I would also like to point out that this has happened to you in the past where we explained that we were holding your withdrawal to take some time to investigate. We ran analysis and found normal distribution rates and no evidence to support any type of leaked server seeds and upon this processed your withdrawal. I don't know why you should believe this to be any different. y u pey 1 not 1 from 1 dey ago. 1 dey i no get coin. i stay up late for monies and get non. This is totally normal Copypasta, you being one of the highest winners in our history it's just standard precautions. Take no offense from it, standard procedure here. y take so long 10 coin took fast 1 coin slow. i sory mp no cheat I no cheat i no cum bak agree send coin? are yo saying you wait for 1 BTC withdrawal? yes i wait 1 coins thx for the answer and sorry that I am asking again you received all your profit beside 1 BTC ? thats all you need to get? yes i no pley no more i promise no cum bak.
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August 10, 2016, 05:13:27 PM |
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@copypasta - why are you intentionally writing in incorrect English? It looks a lot like you are trying to hide something ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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@copypasta - why are you intentionally writing in incorrect English? It looks a lot like you are trying to hide something ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Glad I'm not the only one who picked upon that. I'm almost positive it's a native English speaker, I've seen that exact fake-foreigner style used quite a few times by someone before ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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