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July 18, 2016, 10:05:06 PM
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As I have said many times before, no one can predict what will happen in the short term. But generally the world has become a far more unstable place in the past few years. This is true on virtually every continent. The Russian invasion of Ukraine, turmoil in the Middle East, terrorism in Europe and the USA. There are many scenarios that could change the world's economic outlook in the blink of an eye.
We just sent 2 carrier groups to the South China sea. Wonder what a sunken aircraft carrier, or another major terrorist attack would do for the stock market? Not saying those are likely to happen, but there are many more uncertainties recently. Any of these, or another big bank failure could trigger panic buying of crypto currencies that can easily be moved at will. Surprised it didn't happen with the Greece default, but this is just one of hundreds of reasons.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-ruling-idUSKCN0ZY0FJ

http://www.news.com.au/world/china-rattles-its-nuclear-sabre/news-story/c6c812c041770c172e0c53310b07244f

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July 18, 2016, 11:33:55 PM
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We going to hit 1000  and 5000 . The question is when. Everything can happen with Bitcoin, one thing is for sure. We have new floor and we are moving up slowly. Lets hope for a faster rise but not too fast
I agree with your prediction, the price will set to a new level because bitcoin is deflating.

When is difficult to answer because we don't know the future. If the news on bitcoin is passive then we will hit $1000 by year mid-2017. If there's a news that will make the bitcoin environment go hype then we can hit $1000 between September to December.
If the bitcoin market price goes up because of hype news we might see another crash and it would be bad for bitcoin.
How can it be a crash? If the news that's going to be publish is good how can then be bad for bitcoin? It should be good cause people might get interested and probably will make a demand for bitcoin.
there wasnt any crash to be honest in my opinion the price is going to go up only from now on and we will reach 5000 dollars per bitcoin in like 5 years or so

 
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July 19, 2016, 12:11:26 AM
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We going to hit 1000  and 5000 . The question is when. Everything can happen with Bitcoin, one thing is for sure. We have new floor and we are moving up slowly. Lets hope for a faster rise but not too fast
I agree with your prediction, the price will set to a new level because bitcoin is deflating.

When is difficult to answer because we don't know the future. If the news on bitcoin is passive then we will hit $1000 by year mid-2017. If there's a news that will make the bitcoin environment go hype then we can hit $1000 between September to December.
If the bitcoin market price goes up because of hype news we might see another crash and it would be bad for bitcoin.
How can it be a crash? If the news that's going to be publish is good how can then be bad for bitcoin? It should be good cause people might get interested and probably will make a demand for bitcoin.
there wasnt any crash to be honest in my opinion the price is going to go up only from now on and we will reach 5000 dollars per bitcoin in like 5 years or so

Yes its possible to achieve the price of $5k in next 5 years as till then we see many new companies that will start accepting bitcoin and we will be also able to spend bitcoin wherever we want.


 
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July 19, 2016, 02:32:21 AM
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We going to hit 1000  and 5000 . The question is when. Everything can happen with Bitcoin, one thing is for sure. We have new floor and we are moving up slowly. Lets hope for a faster rise but not too fast
I agree with your prediction, the price will set to a new level because bitcoin is deflating.

When is difficult to answer because we don't know the future. If the news on bitcoin is passive then we will hit $1000 by year mid-2017. If there's a news that will make the bitcoin environment go hype then we can hit $1000 between September to December.
If the bitcoin market price goes up because of hype news we might see another crash and it would be bad for bitcoin.
How can it be a crash? If the news that's going to be publish is good how can then be bad for bitcoin? It should be good cause people might get interested and probably will make a demand for bitcoin.
there wasnt any crash to be honest in my opinion the price is going to go up only from now on and we will reach 5000 dollars per bitcoin in like 5 years or so

Yes its possible to achieve the price of $5k in next 5 years as till then we see many new companies that will start accepting bitcoin and we will be also able to spend bitcoin wherever we want.
In early days there were very few companies willing to accept bitcoins due to the relative lack of knowledge behind it. Nowadays, more is known about bitcoins especially in acquiring the currency. Companies are interested in change and willing to explore new solutions. By this it is possible to achieve $5k within 6 to 7 years.
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July 19, 2016, 06:44:31 AM
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We going to hit 1000  and 5000 . The question is when. Everything can happen with Bitcoin, one thing is for sure. We have new floor and we are moving up slowly. Lets hope for a faster rise but not too fast
I agree with your prediction, the price will set to a new level because bitcoin is deflating.

When is difficult to answer because we don't know the future. If the news on bitcoin is passive then we will hit $1000 by year mid-2017. If there's a news that will make the bitcoin environment go hype then we can hit $1000 between September to December.
If the bitcoin market price goes up because of hype news we might see another crash and it would be bad for bitcoin.
How can it be a crash? If the news that's going to be publish is good how can then be bad for bitcoin? It should be good cause people might get interested and probably will make a demand for bitcoin.
there wasnt any crash to be honest in my opinion the price is going to go up only from now on and we will reach 5000 dollars per bitcoin in like 5 years or so

Yes its possible to achieve the price of $5k in next 5 years as till then we see many new companies that will start accepting bitcoin and we will be also able to spend bitcoin wherever we want.
In early days there were very few companies willing to accept bitcoins due to the relative lack of knowledge behind it. Nowadays, more is known about bitcoins especially in acquiring the currency. Companies are interested in change and willing to explore new solutions. By this it is possible to achieve $5k within 6 to 7 years.
That's right and the reason they got interested to use it is because more people believe in it and it's making the company confident that the bitcoin may have a good future.
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July 19, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
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If we have good increase of the usage of the bitcoin, it will take 3 to 6 years for the bitcoin price to reach $5000.

The world's fiat economy isn't going to last anywhere near 3 to 6 more years.

Venezuela type inflation will be coming to the rest of the world before long. The following article was back in May. Things have gotten much worse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/americas/venezuela-crisis-what-next.html?_r=0

Compare the following debt numbers from 2012 to what they have swelled to today. This can't last much longer.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html

Very interesting and, for your information I suggest you read the following.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/failed-coup-sparks-yen-driven-buying-spree-us-stocks

I feel the same as you: there should be a breking point where the equilibrium will be lost. This situation can't lost for long.
I'm afraid when we will reach that point it will be hard for everybody. History says that in those times war come into place.
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July 19, 2016, 07:44:46 AM
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We going to hit 1000  and 5000 . The question is when. Everything can happen with Bitcoin, one thing is for sure. We have new floor and we are moving up slowly. Lets hope for a faster rise but not too fast
I agree with your prediction, the price will set to a new level because bitcoin is deflating.

When is difficult to answer because we don't know the future. If the news on bitcoin is passive then we will hit $1000 by year mid-2017. If there's a news that will make the bitcoin environment go hype then we can hit $1000 between September to December.
If the bitcoin market price goes up because of hype news we might see another crash and it would be bad for bitcoin.
How can it be a crash? If the news that's going to be publish is good how can then be bad for bitcoin? It should be good cause people might get interested and probably will make a demand for bitcoin.
there wasnt any crash to be honest in my opinion the price is going to go up only from now on and we will reach 5000 dollars per bitcoin in like 5 years or so

Yes its possible to achieve the price of $5k in next 5 years as till then we see many new companies that will start accepting bitcoin and we will be also able to spend bitcoin wherever we want.
In early days there were very few companies willing to accept bitcoins due to the relative lack of knowledge behind it. Nowadays, more is known about bitcoins especially in acquiring the currency. Companies are interested in change and willing to explore new solutions. By this it is possible to achieve $5k within 6 to 7 years.
5K is not impossible, but highly improbable in my opinion. There are a lot of factors that affect how the price moves, and it wouldn't be going up that fast anytime soon. And as bitcoin matures, we would see the price stabilize more at lower levels, say $2000.
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July 19, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
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The value is not going to be that high because we still have yet to reach $1000 this year but it is not sure of even that is going to happen.
So the chance is then even smaller of the price going to reach $5000.
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July 19, 2016, 01:25:56 PM
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The value is not going to be that high because we still have yet to reach $1000 this year but it is not sure of even that is going to happen.
So the chance is then even smaller of the price going to reach $5000.

That is right. I think the bitcoin price might reach 5000 dollars in 2 to 5 years, but definitely not very soon.
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July 19, 2016, 03:22:16 PM
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If we have good increase of the usage of the bitcoin, it will take 3 to 6 years for the bitcoin price to reach $5000.

The world's fiat economy isn't going to last anywhere near 3 to 6 more years.

Venezuela type inflation will be coming to the rest of the world before long. The following article was back in May. Things have gotten much worse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/americas/venezuela-crisis-what-next.html?_r=0

Compare the following debt numbers from 2012 to what they have swelled to today. This can't last much longer.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html

Very interesting and, for your information I suggest you read the following.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/failed-coup-sparks-yen-driven-buying-spree-us-stocks

I feel the same as you: there should be a breking point where the equilibrium will be lost. This situation can't lost for long.
I'm afraid when we will reach that point it will be hard for everybody. History says that in those times war come into place.
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In my opinion it is already getting hard for everybody. At least the lower and middle class are having a tough time.

They claim in the USA unemployment is supposedly around 5%, yet you have 96 million people who are not working. That is 1/3 of the able bodied work force. If you can't collect unemployment you are no longer counted. If you lost your manufacturing job and work at a fast food joint, you are no longer counted. Look at any strip mall in rural America and you will see many empty store fronts. In some I have noticed up to 3 payday loan stores in one strip mall! The people who the liberals claim to help got screwed the worst. And there is no end in sight. In my opinion this is one reason we are seeing an escalation in violent crimes. You might notice that 7 to 10 year car loans have been the latest craze. Auto sales skyrocketed in the same way homes did back around 2004 to 2007, and these auto loans are now starting to default. Just Google it.

In reply to the article on the stock buying spree, I was talking about this with a friend this morning. People are trying to move money to safety. The US market is one of the last safe havens, but we must remember that it has been artificially pumped up due to lack of interest you can earn in cash. Those who saved all their lives and expected to earn 6% to 10% on their savings can now earn nothing. In fact banks are talking about negative interest rates. When you have companies like Amazon selling for nearly 400 times earnings, it is a sure sign that something is wrong and a collapse is coming. As you said, equilibrium has already been lost. When it all falls apart, Bitcoin could easily blow through $5k. We could even see multiples of that number. One thing is sure, all of it's detractors have underestimated it's long term performance.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-10/age-cryptocurrency

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July 19, 2016, 03:27:01 PM
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The value is not going to be that high because we still have yet to reach $1000 this year but it is not sure of even that is going to happen.
So the chance is then even smaller of the price going to reach $5000.

Bitcoin will reach to the value of $5k in next 5 years not before that, and at a moment our primary intention should be to achieve the price of $1k.
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July 19, 2016, 03:47:14 PM
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If we have good increase of the usage of the bitcoin, it will take 3 to 6 years for the bitcoin price to reach $5000.

The world's fiat economy isn't going to last anywhere near 3 to 6 more years.

Venezuela type inflation will be coming to the rest of the world before long. The following article was back in May. Things have gotten much worse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/americas/venezuela-crisis-what-next.html?_r=0

Compare the following debt numbers from 2012 to what they have swelled to today. This can't last much longer.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html
Wow! Those debts are high and it really made a big jump up to 100000x. How can this be happening? How these inflation works and seems like growing so fast?
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July 19, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
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If we have good increase of the usage of the bitcoin, it will take 3 to 6 years for the bitcoin price to reach $5000.

The world's fiat economy isn't going to last anywhere near 3 to 6 more years.

Venezuela type inflation will be coming to the rest of the world before long. The following article was back in May. Things have gotten much worse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/americas/venezuela-crisis-what-next.html?_r=0

Compare the following debt numbers from 2012 to what they have swelled to today. This can't last much longer.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html

Very interesting and, for your information I suggest you read the following.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/failed-coup-sparks-yen-driven-buying-spree-us-stocks

I feel the same as you: there should be a breking point where the equilibrium will be lost. This situation can't lost for long.
I'm afraid when we will reach that point it will be hard for everybody. History says that in those times war come into place.
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In my opinion it is already getting hard for everybody. At least the lower and middle class are having a tough time.

They claim in the USA unemployment is supposedly around 5%, yet you have 96 million people who are not working. That is 1/3 of the able bodied work force. If you can't collect unemployment you are no longer counted. If you lost your manufacturing job and work at a fast food joint, you are no longer counted. Look at any strip mall in rural America and you will see many empty store fronts. In some I have noticed up to 3 payday loan stores in one strip mall! The people who the liberals claim to help got screwed the worst. And there is no end in sight. In my opinion this is one reason we are seeing an escalation in violent crimes. You might notice that 7 to 10 year car loans have been the latest craze. Auto sales skyrocketed in the same way homes did back around 2004 to 2007, and these auto loans are now starting to default. Just Google it.

In reply to the article on the stock buying spree, I was talking about this with a friend this morning. People are trying to move money to safety. The US market is one of the last safe havens, but we must remember that it has been artificially pumped up due to lack of interest you can earn in cash. Those who saved all their lives and expected to earn 6% to 10% on their savings can now earn nothing. In fact banks are talking about negative interest rates. When you have companies like Amazon selling for nearly 400 times earnings, it is a sure sign that something is wrong and a collapse is coming. As you said, equilibrium has already been lost. When it all falls apart, Bitcoin could easily blow through $5k. We could even see multiples of that number. One thing is sure, all of it's detractors have underestimated it's long term performance.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-10/age-cryptocurrency


I could not agree more with what you said before.
I do not live in the United States anymore but I remember when I was there in 2014 I saw something like that in some areas of New Jersey.
What I underlined is something I also firmly believe. Time will tell
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July 19, 2016, 07:14:26 PM
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The value is not going to be that high because we still have yet to reach $1000 this year but it is not sure of even that is going to happen.
So the chance is then even smaller of the price going to reach $5000.

Bitcoin will reach to the value of $5k in next 5 years not before that, and at a moment our primary intention should be to achieve the price of $1k.
i think you might be right, the price will be definitely booming in the future because bitcoin popularity is going to increase really fast and make us all some good money
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If we have good increase of the usage of the bitcoin, it will take 3 to 6 years for the bitcoin price to reach $5000.

The world's fiat economy isn't going to last anywhere near 3 to 6 more years.

Venezuela type inflation will be coming to the rest of the world before long. The following article was back in May. Things have gotten much worse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/americas/venezuela-crisis-what-next.html?_r=0

Compare the following debt numbers from 2012 to what they have swelled to today. This can't last much longer.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html

Very interesting and, for your information I suggest you read the following.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/failed-coup-sparks-yen-driven-buying-spree-us-stocks

I feel the same as you: there should be a breking point where the equilibrium will be lost. This situation can't lost for long.
I'm afraid when we will reach that point it will be hard for everybody. History says that in those times war come into place.
scary Roll Eyes

In my opinion it is already getting hard for everybody. At least the lower and middle class are having a tough time.

They claim in the USA unemployment is supposedly around 5%, yet you have 96 million people who are not working. That is 1/3 of the able bodied work force. If you can't collect unemployment you are no longer counted. If you lost your manufacturing job and work at a fast food joint, you are no longer counted. Look at any strip mall in rural America and you will see many empty store fronts. In some I have noticed up to 3 payday loan stores in one strip mall! The people who the liberals claim to help got screwed the worst. And there is no end in sight. In my opinion this is one reason we are seeing an escalation in violent crimes. You might notice that 7 to 10 year car loans have been the latest craze. Auto sales skyrocketed in the same way homes did back around 2004 to 2007, and these auto loans are now starting to default. Just Google it.

In reply to the article on the stock buying spree, I was talking about this with a friend this morning. People are trying to move money to safety. The US market is one of the last safe havens, but we must remember that it has been artificially pumped up due to lack of interest you can earn in cash. Those who saved all their lives and expected to earn 6% to 10% on their savings can now earn nothing. In fact banks are talking about negative interest rates. When you have companies like Amazon selling for nearly 400 times earnings, it is a sure sign that something is wrong and a collapse is coming. As you said, equilibrium has already been lost. When it all falls apart, Bitcoin could easily blow through $5k. We could even see multiples of that number. One thing is sure, all of it's detractors have underestimated it's long term performance.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-10/age-cryptocurrency


I could not agree more with what you said before.
I do not live in the United States anymore but I remember when I was there in 2014 I saw something like that in some areas of New Jersey.
What I underlined is something I also firmly believe. Time will tell


Back in the day paper money was backed by gold. Coins were made of copper, silver, and gold. This was true in the USA, Canada, Europe, and much of the world. Now coins are made of aluminum and other cheap metals. They have no more intrinsic value than counterfeit money. You can see the value of fiat currency shrinking around the world as food and essentials get more and more expensive compared to average incomes.
Many on this thread keep saying it will take a certain amount of time for Bitcoin to hit $5k. It has nothing to do with time, and everything to do with economics. Things can change very rapidly, and I would argue that the world is far worse off today than it was in 2008. They can only lower interest rates into the negatives, and printing money this time would cause far more problems than it would solve. It isn't hard to see Bitcoin performing far better in an economic crisis than it did in 2013. Bitcoin didn't exist in 2008.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_crash
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July 19, 2016, 07:49:15 PM
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The value is not going to be that high because we still have yet to reach $1000 this year but it is not sure of even that is going to happen.
So the chance is then even smaller of the price going to reach $5000.

Bitcoin will reach to the value of $5k in next 5 years not before that, and at a moment our primary intention should be to achieve the price of $1k.
i think you might be right, the price will be definitely booming in the future because bitcoin popularity is going to increase really fast and make us all some good money

yeah and we all want that bitcoin price should rise in future and at the same time we also need to be realistic with its price we should only dream off which can be achievable in near future.
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July 20, 2016, 09:29:11 AM
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It's too early to have a very high assumption about the price of bitcoin. I think it will just hit 1000usd for 2017-2018. But we dn't really know cause as far as I'm concern if many people leave MMM which I know got influence by the btc fluctuation last november 2015 this may also affect the price of bitcoin because MMM use bitcoin crypto-currency.
I do not believe that the price is going to be $5000 any time soon now because we also have yet to reach $1000.
We will need a couple more year before the price is going to reach $5000.


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July 20, 2016, 10:31:50 AM
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It's too early to have a very high assumption about the price of bitcoin. I think it will just hit 1000usd for 2017-2018. But we dn't really know cause as far as I'm concern if many people leave MMM which I know got influence by the btc fluctuation last november 2015 this may also affect the price of bitcoin because MMM use bitcoin crypto-currency.
I do not believe that the price is going to be $5000 any time soon now because we also have yet to reach $1000.
We will need a couple more year before the price is going to reach $5000.

I don't think it's even funny any more to see people as ignorant as you are. When BTC reached its ATH of ~30$ it didn't take "a couple more year" to go even higher. In fact, it went more than 5x higher right away. When we reach 1000$ full FOMO kicks in bringing us to 5k in no time.

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July 20, 2016, 01:11:07 PM
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We know that the price is not going to be $5000 soon but it would be nice if it happened soon because I would sell some Bitcoin right away.
I think that we need at least 3 more years before the price can really climb up to that.
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July 20, 2016, 03:51:51 PM
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We know that the price is not going to be $5000 soon but it would be nice if it happened soon because I would sell some Bitcoin right away.
I think that we need at least 3 more years before the price can really climb up to that.

Bitcoin has the potential to reach $5000, but this won't happen in a short time as users predicted. Even to reach the price around $700 it had took almost 8years. So to reach $5000 it might take more time.
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