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July 10, 2016, 05:50:55 PM
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Hello twiggy, i registered at wavestalk but doesnt receive my confirmation link, can you help me how to fix this?


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July 10, 2016, 05:51:51 PM
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Everyone that is worried about waves and the price should take a look at numbers, and numbers say we are in the money

waves raised 30094 BTC according to ICO statistics
BTC was worth around 540$ at a time when ICO has ended
so Waves marketcap was 16250760$ at a time when ICO has ended
1 Wave equaled ~0,1625 $

as far as i can see we're well in the money for some time since BTC is ~640$ and waves marketcap is 20518200$

we earned like 25% so far... all is good
I guess that is somehow true if you bought with USD. If you bought with BTC then it is not like this because if you kept your BTC they would be worth around $650 right now.

Nobody bought with USD as there was no way to buy directly with fiat.  The ICO was BTC only so it's incorrect for anyone who bought in the ICO to say they are in profit at present because they look at the dollar value.  

In order to do the calculation correctly you need to look at how much your Bitcoin would be worth if it wasn't put into the ICO and compare that to the value of your ICO WAVES.  WAVES is still under the ICO price in BTC and the bitcoin price is still significantly higher in USD value than it was throughout the ICO.

The only ones who can be in profit are those who bought during the dip after the ICO.  

I'm not deliberately destroying people's enthusiasm but unless they do the right calculations and look at things realistically it is impossible to understand how much your gains and losses are.  It may seem harmless but this kind of clueless investing and ignorance is what leads to panic buying and selling.
hn below ico? don't think so 33k my ico price man  Smiley

to settle things we bought 85.000.000 waves for 16.250.760$ during the ICO so the ICO price was 0,00035405 in BTC
but there are 100.000.000 of waves in total so each Wave was worth less than that: around ~0,0003 BTC or 0,1625$ right after ICO ended.
SO we begun trading with a loss of 16-17% just because of how ICO was structured but ONLY in terms of BTC - in terms of USD we were even. now we have profit of 14-15% in terms of fiat and slight loss of 7% in terms of BTC.

is everyone happy now?
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July 10, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
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When I try to send waves from lite client I get error 112 "negative fee".Anyone else have this on version 4.0?

Hi. First of all try to reload/restart your Wallet/Browser. Make sure that you use the latest version of the browser and Waves wallet.

Latest version of Waves clients: Lite client (v0.4.1) Chrome App (0.4.1a) + Tutorials
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July 10, 2016, 05:53:23 PM
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is everyone happy now?

No because you still don't get it.
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July 10, 2016, 05:55:20 PM
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Hello twiggy, i registered at wavestalk but doesnt receive my confirmation link, can you help me how to fix this?
Thanks Wink

Hi ImnotOctopus Smiley

First, please check spam folder. If you use a personal e-mail server, please contact me by PM (send your email address I will check it)
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July 10, 2016, 05:55:47 PM
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When I try to send waves from lite client I get error 112 "negative fee".Anyone else have this on version 4.0?

Hi. First of all try to reload/restart your Wallet/Browser. Make sure that you use the latest version of the browser and Waves wallet.

Latest version of Waves clients: Lite client (v0.4.1) Chrome App (0.4.1a) + Tutorials

Has 4.0 got an issue with the preset fee since there was update to increase fee?Is that the reason for error112 on 4.0?
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July 10, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
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I calculate my gains and losses in terms of fiat too. I do not calculate in terms of bitcoin. I would never hold all bitcoin, that is just risky. When I make a crypto investment decision I do take the conversion to bitcoin into account though. I do not think, "well if I kept all bitcoin I would be up more" that also would increase my risk. Anyway, I make decisions based on fiat, and calculate gain and loss that way.
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July 10, 2016, 05:59:53 PM
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When I try to send waves from lite client I get error 112 "negative fee".Anyone else have this on version 4.0?

Hi. First of all try to reload/restart your Wallet/Browser. Make sure that you use the latest version of the browser and Waves wallet.

Latest version of Waves clients: Lite client (v0.4.1) Chrome App (0.4.1a) + Tutorials

Has 4.0 got an issue with the preset fee since there was update to increase fee?Is that the reason for error112 on 4.0?

Please update your wallet. Smiley
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July 10, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
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I calculate my gains and losses in terms of fiat too. I do not calculate in terms of bitcoin. I would never hold all bitcoin, that is just risky. When I make a crypto investment decision I do take the conversion to bitcoin into account though. I do not think, "well if I kept all bitcoin I would be up more" that also would increase my risk. Anyway, I make decisions based on fiat, and calculate gain and loss that way.

I'm proud of you Wink

How did you buy WAVES using fiat?
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July 10, 2016, 06:02:32 PM
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When I try to send waves from lite client I get error 112 "negative fee".Anyone else have this on version 4.0?

Hi. First of all try to reload/restart your Wallet/Browser. Make sure that you use the latest version of the browser and Waves wallet.

Latest version of Waves clients: Lite client (v0.4.1) Chrome App (0.4.1a) + Tutorials

Has 4.0 got an issue with the preset fee since there was update to increase fee?Is that the reason for error112 on 4.0?

Please update your wallet. Smiley

LOL ok so I guess the answer is yes
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July 10, 2016, 06:04:57 PM
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I calculate my gains and losses in terms of fiat too. I do not calculate in terms of bitcoin. I would never hold all bitcoin, that is just risky. When I make a crypto investment decision I do take the conversion to bitcoin into account though. I do not think, "well if I kept all bitcoin I would be up more" that also would increase my risk. Anyway, I make decisions based on fiat, and calculate gain and loss that way.

I'm proud of you Wink

How did you buy WAVES using fiat?

I used bitcoin, I just take the conversion fee into account.


"I made $1,000 in poker this month, I should have not played poker and kept my money in bitcoin because I would have made $1,200 if I kept my cash in bitcoin... since I have to convert my money to bitcoin to get it on the poker site"
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July 10, 2016, 06:19:33 PM
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Hi @Twiggy! I have two questions:

1. Full node release end of next week still stands?
2. How is the hiring of new devs going? Will you be able to complete the milestones on your Roadmap with the current team even if you cannot hire more devs? It's common knowledge that there are max. 20 excellent blockchain devs in the world so it wont be easy to hire any.

Thanks.


 
 
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July 10, 2016, 06:28:24 PM
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Hello people !

Stay carefull and don't trust anyone, there is a scammer on twitter !
Check the actual topic related on https://wavestalk.org/general-discussion/beware-the-scammers!/msg718/#msg718
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July 10, 2016, 06:38:52 PM
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Hi @Twiggy! I have two questions:

1. Full node release end of next week still stands?


I'd like to know the answer to the first question as well.. Is there a drop dead date for full node release? Such as Friday 15.

Avalanche is a must own
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July 10, 2016, 06:39:33 PM
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Hi @Twiggy! I have two questions:

1. Full node release end of next week still stands?
2. How is the hiring of new devs going? Will you be able to complete the milestones on your Roadmap with the current team even if you cannot hire more devs? It's common knowledge that there are max. 20 excellent blockchain devs in the world so it wont be easy to hire any.

Thanks.

I'd like to know the answer to the first question as well.. Is there a drop dead date for full node release? Such as Friday 15.

Hi @KoinMaster and @Vagnavs! I have two answers for you:

1. For now yes. Devs are aiming for next weekend.
2. I think the new/additional professional employees will always be a valuable source of knowledge for any company. Yes, we are looking for new employees. Why not? Yes, we are able to cope with the tasks assigned with the current staff.

Smiley
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July 10, 2016, 06:40:47 PM
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"I made $1,000 in poker this month, I should have not played poker and kept my money in bitcoin because I would have made $1,200 if I kept my cash in bitcoin... since I have to convert my money to bitcoin to get it on the poker site"

So you actually lost money by playing poker compared to just holding bitcoin.  Why not just keep it as bitcoin then?
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July 10, 2016, 06:45:09 PM
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Hello people !

Stay carefull and don't trust anyone, there is a scammer on twitter !
Check the actual topic related on https://wavestalk.org/general-discussion/beware-the-scammers!/msg718/#msg718

Hi @onepix!

Thanks for the detailed investigation!
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July 10, 2016, 06:50:09 PM
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"I made $1,000 in poker this month, I should have not played poker and kept my money in bitcoin because I would have made $1,200 if I kept my cash in bitcoin... since I have to convert my money to bitcoin to get it on the poker site"

So you actually lost money by playing poker compared to just holding bitcoin.  Why not just keep it as bitcoin then?

Exactly! Because what I wrote above is not true. I would have lost money keeping my cash as bitcoin. I moved it on the poker site when bitcoin was $740. The point is, you're Risk/Reward equation is going to be out of control if you use bitcoin for your investment decisions. But its all good, we all have our own style. You can do yours in terms of bitcoin, I will use USD.
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July 10, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
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Thanks @Twiggy! If the full node release deadline(end of next week) still stands then why the last weekly update( http://coremedia.info/index.php/blockchain-news/item/273-waves-weekly-no-2 ) said:

"Meanwhile, progress on release-ready full node code is on track, and expected within the coming weeks."

Hi @Twiggy! I have two questions:

1. Full node release end of next week still stands?
2. How is the hiring of new devs going? Will you be able to complete the milestones on your Roadmap with the current team even if you cannot hire more devs? It's common knowledge that there are max. 20 excellent blockchain devs in the world so it wont be easy to hire any.

Thanks.

I'd like to know the answer to the first question as well.. Is there a drop dead date for full node release? Such as Friday 15.

Hi @KoinMaster and @ Vagnavs! I have two answers for you:

1. For now yes. Devs are aiming for next weekend.
2. I think the new/additional professional employees will always be a valuable source of knowledge for any company. Yes, we are looking for new employees. Why not? Yes, we are able to cope with the tasks assigned with the current staff.

Smiley


 
 
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July 10, 2016, 06:54:55 PM
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Thanks @Twiggy! If the full node release deadline(end of next week) still stands then why the last weekly update( http://coremedia.info/index.php/blockchain-news/item/273-waves-weekly-no-2 ) said:

"Meanwhile, progress on release-ready full node code is on track, and expected within the coming weeks."

Hi @Twiggy! I have two questions:

1. Full node release end of next week still stands?
2. How is the hiring of new devs going? Will you be able to complete the milestones on your Roadmap with the current team even if you cannot hire more devs? It's common knowledge that there are max. 20 excellent blockchain devs in the world so it wont be easy to hire any.

Thanks.

I'd like to know the answer to the first question as well.. Is there a drop dead date for full node release? Such as Friday 15.

Hi @KoinMaster and @ Vagnavs! I have two answers for you:

1. For now yes. Devs are aiming for next weekend.
2. I think the new/additional professional employees will always be a valuable source of knowledge for any company. Yes, we are looking for new employees. Why not? Yes, we are able to cope with the tasks assigned with the current staff.

Smiley

Looks like they are afraid to give one set date.
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