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February 19, 2017, 02:18:53 PM |
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No, not all science is a religion, but all are in the science of religion. All the knowledge that exists and has spread around the world to learn from religion, even that does not exist yet is being learned through religion. Religion is the main yanng of all the science that exist in the world. There will be no science if there is no religion.
I think you're joking. How do you say it will not be science without religion? Scientists do not use religious arguments when conducting research. They work with the terminology of science. Many of the information revealed in the scientific works contradicts those in the religious books. How do you explain this?
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February 19, 2017, 03:17:30 PM |
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In my opinion, scientists can only discover things created already by our creator, God. They can't create anything but only repeat things from the God's creation. If can't explain something, scientists makes theory. Theory is their belief, but not proof. So, yes, science is also kind of religion. Any way, scientists can only research created universe (from the moment of creation). They can't research before creation (before time and space), so they are limited really and should be humble before the Creator, God. Only God knows everything.
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February 19, 2017, 03:35:00 PM |
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No, not all science is a religion, but all are in the science of religion. All the knowledge that exists and has spread around the world to learn from religion, even that does not exist yet is being learned through religion. Religion is the main yanng of all the science that exist in the world. There will be no science if there is no religion.
I think you're joking. How do you say it will not be science without religion? Scientists do not use religious arguments when conducting research. They work with the terminology of science. Many of the information revealed in the scientific works contradicts those in the religious books. How do you explain this? If kodes88 is joking, he shouldn't be. Why not? Because everybody lives by religion. People who say they don't, simply have a religion of non-religion. The definition of religion shows this. The closest one can come to having no religion is being a mental vegetable.
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st0nefish
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February 19, 2017, 03:52:16 PM |
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In my opinion, scientists can only discover things created already by our creator, God. They can't create anything but only repeat things from the God's creation. If can't explain something, scientists makes theory. Theory is their belief, but not proof. So, yes, science is also kind of religion. Any way, scientists can only research created universe (from the moment of creation). They can't research before creation (before time and space), so they are limited really and should be humble before the Creator, God. Only God knows everything.
Scientists search the universe we live in. This definition is correct. Everything in science begins with theories. I would advise you to investigate the scientific theory. Is the theory of gravity a belief in you? Or is the theory of evolution a belief? You also said that the constant universe was created by God. Do you have any proof for that? Have you developed a theory in this regard?
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February 19, 2017, 04:06:13 PM |
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No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.
Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).
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February 19, 2017, 07:56:47 PM |
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No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.
Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).
But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.
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February 19, 2017, 08:05:21 PM |
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No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.
Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).
But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. Stop lying. That link is about religion, not atheism.
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February 19, 2017, 08:11:47 PM |
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No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work. Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods). Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.
Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).
But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. Stop lying. That link is about religion, not atheism. You stop lying. The info in the definition of religion includes atheism as a religion, without saying atheism.
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February 19, 2017, 08:15:01 PM |
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No it isn't. Stop lying
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February 19, 2017, 08:24:00 PM |
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No it isn't. Stop lying
Okay. Keep on lying. After all, from the definition #6: something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.For sure those atheists that adamantly push their atheism forward have a religion of atheism.
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February 19, 2017, 08:29:34 PM |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion and as more people become educated those that follow religion continue to fall away.
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February 19, 2017, 08:35:21 PM |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves.
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February 19, 2017, 08:39:42 PM |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it
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February 19, 2017, 08:42:36 PM |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true?
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February 19, 2017, 08:44:24 PM |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true? I didn't say I had a book
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February 19, 2017, 08:48:06 PM |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true? I didn't say I had a book Well, say it again, a different way. Because it sure sounded like you were saying that you had a book.
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February 19, 2017, 08:48:59 PM |
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What are you smocking?
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February 19, 2017, 08:51:54 PM |
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What are you smocking?
Do you mean smoking? Or do you mean mocking? Or might you even mean something else?
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February 19, 2017, 08:53:34 PM |
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While many in main stream science claim to be atheist and believe in the Big Bang and the eventual Deep Freeze due to entropy. Is it not curious to consider that the very underpinnings of this belief is based on mathematics, was it too created in the big bang? if so how was it constructed? one digit at a time?
I think not it has always been there and will always remain its an eternal masterpiece that permeates every conceivable facet or reality yet in its self it is purely abstract. Without it nothing would exist, but it in itself it is nonexistent and existent at the same time. It is the language of the living universe. Its permutations are infinite, yet it did not grow, it has always been complete and eternal.
How big is your consciousness and what shape does it have? The relationship between religion and science has been a subject of study since classical antiquity, addressed by philosophers, theologians, scientists, and others. Perspectives from different geographical regions, cultures and historical epochs are diverse, with some characterizing the relationship as one of conflict, others describing it as one of harmony, and others proposing little interaction. Science acknowledges reason, empiricism, and evidence, while religions include revelation, faith and sacredness whilst also acknowledging philosophical and metaphysical explanations with regard to the study of the universe. Both science and religion are complex social and cultural endeavors that vary across cultures and have changed over time.[1] Most scientific and technical innovations prior to the scientific revolution were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions. Elements of the scientific method were pioneered by ancient pagan, Islamic, and Christian scholars. Roger Bacon, who is often credited with formalizing the scientific method, was a Franciscan friar.[2] Hinduism has historically embraced reason and empiricism, holding that science brings legitimate, but incomplete knowledge of the world. Confucian thought has held different views of science over time. Most Buddhists today view science as complementary to their beliefs. Events in Europe such as the Galileo affair, associated with the scientific revolution and the Age of Enlightenment, led scholars such as John William Draper to postulate a conflict thesis, holding that religion and science have been in conflict methodologically, factually and politically throughout history. This thesis is held by some contemporary scientists such as Richard Dawkins, Steven Weinberg and Carl Sagan, and some creationists. While the conflict thesis remains popular for the public, it has lost favor among most contemporary historians of science.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Many scientists, philosophers, and theologians throughout history, such as Francisco Ayala, Kenneth R. Miller and Francis Collins, have seen compatibility or independence between religion and science. Biologist Stephen Jay Gould, other scientists, and some contemporary theologians hold that religion and science are non-overlapping magisteria, addressing fundamentally separate forms of knowledge and aspects of life. Some theologians or historians of science, including John Lennox, Thomas Berry, Brian Swimme and Ken Wilber propose an interconnection between science and religion, while others such as Ian Barbour believe there are even parallels. Public acceptance of scientific facts may be influenced by religion; many in the United States reject the idea of evolution by natural selection, especially regarding human beings. Nevertheless, the American National Academy of Sciences has written that "the evidence for evolution can be fully compatible with religious faith", a view officially endorsed by many religious denominations globally
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February 19, 2017, 08:54:10 PM |
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What are you smocking?
Do you mean smoking? Or do you mean mocking? Or might you even mean something else? Smocking is an embroidery technique used to gather fabric so that it can stretch. Before elastic, smocking was commonly used in cuffs, bodices, and necklines in garments where buttons were undesirable. Smocking developed in England and has been practised since the Middle Ages and is unusual among embroidery methods in that it was often worn by laborers. Other major embroidery styles are purely decorative and represented status symbols. Smocking was practical for garments to be both form fitting and flexible, hence its name derives from smock — a farmer's work shirt. Smocking was used most extensively in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.
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