Is science a religion?

[ekaterina77]

Well, science is not religion and it doesn’t just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion’s virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.

Some scientists work on a specific science project for more than 30 years. And they still haven't found out if their project is accurate the way they hypothesize. Sounds like a lot of faith to me.

Right, you say. Scientists can 30 years to conduct experiments until they 100% prove it to be true. All this time they do not claim that it is. I would understand believers who say that God probably is, but they claim there is a God without evidence.

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That is a textbook definition of delusion.  Religion is a mental illness.

Everyone understands that religion is a mental illness, but I wonder why it's not responding state? Why are churches tax-exempt? I think that in the interests of the state to have more crazies. They are easier to manage!

[st0nefish]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

[ekaterina77]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

But nobody argues that the earth came from the big Bang. It's called the big Bang THEORY. And the Church says that the earth was created by God. It is not correct. Religion is afraid of science. And afraid of educated people.

[st0nefish]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

But nobody argues that the earth came from the big Bang. It's called the big Bang THEORY. And the Church says that the earth was created by God. It is not correct. Religion is afraid of science. And afraid of educated people.

BigBang theory is an experimental theory. So BigBang can be proved at the cosmos we live in.
But we can not explain the Quantum Fluctuations at this time. It can be explained by some physical and mathematical theories on paper.

It's normal for religions to be afraid of science. Because the writers of the holy books and the scientific theories contradict each other.

Why are you afraid of educated people?

[Mersedes]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

But nobody argues that the earth came from the big Bang. It's called the big Bang THEORY. And the Church says that the earth was created by God. It is not correct. Religion is afraid of science. And afraid of educated people.

BigBang theory is an experimental theory. So BigBang can be proved at the cosmos we live in.
But we can not explain the Quantum Fluctuations at this time. It can be explained by some physical and mathematical theories on paper.

It's normal for religions to be afraid of science. Because the writers of the holy books and the scientific theories contradict each other.

Why are you afraid of educated people?

The Church is afraid of educated people because it is in their face is losing its supporters. The more educated people the less faithful. I am a supporter of science. In our time religion breeds fanatics and provokes a war.

[st0nefish]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

But nobody argues that the earth came from the big Bang. It's called the big Bang THEORY. And the Church says that the earth was created by God. It is not correct. Religion is afraid of science. And afraid of educated people.

BigBang theory is an experimental theory. So BigBang can be proved at the cosmos we live in.
But we can not explain the Quantum Fluctuations at this time. It can be explained by some physical and mathematical theories on paper.

It's normal for religions to be afraid of science. Because the writers of the holy books and the scientific theories contradict each other.

Why are you afraid of educated people?

The Church is afraid of educated people because it is in their face is losing its supporters. The more educated people the less faithful. I am a supporter of science. In our time religion breeds fanatics and provokes a war.

In the 21st century, the influence of religions on the earth began to decline considerably. With the Internet and technology, people can access information faster.
To me, after entering the 22st century, religions will have completely disappeared.

[Karloff]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

But nobody argues that the earth came from the big Bang. It's called the big Bang THEORY. And the Church says that the earth was created by God. It is not correct. Religion is afraid of science. And afraid of educated people.

BigBang theory is an experimental theory. So BigBang can be proved at the cosmos we live in.
But we can not explain the Quantum Fluctuations at this time. It can be explained by some physical and mathematical theories on paper.

It's normal for religions to be afraid of science. Because the writers of the holy books and the scientific theories contradict each other.

Why are you afraid of educated people?

The Church is afraid of educated people because it is in their face is losing its supporters. The more educated people the less faithful. I am a supporter of science. In our time religion breeds fanatics and provokes a war.

In the 21st century, the influence of religions on the earth began to decline considerably. With the Internet and technology, people can access information faster.
To me, after entering the 22st century, religions will have completely disappeared.

I would not have argued. It would be nice to keep it that way. Unfortunately the governments of almost all States of the world support narcotic people by religious leaders. Of religion and state at the same time.

[st0nefish]

Science constantly develops by denying itself. Scientific theories are based on experimentation and observation. Scientifically, all processes can be explained from BigBang.

We do not know what happened before BigBang. There are different theories for this. For example False vacuum
The theory of infinite universes, Quantum waves are currently only the theory. We can not test them experimentally.

But nobody argues that the earth came from the big Bang. It's called the big Bang THEORY. And the Church says that the earth was created by God. It is not correct. Religion is afraid of science. And afraid of educated people.

BigBang theory is an experimental theory. So BigBang can be proved at the cosmos we live in.
But we can not explain the Quantum Fluctuations at this time. It can be explained by some physical and mathematical theories on paper.

It's normal for religions to be afraid of science. Because the writers of the holy books and the scientific theories contradict each other.

Why are you afraid of educated people?

The Church is afraid of educated people because it is in their face is losing its supporters. The more educated people the less faithful. I am a supporter of science. In our time religion breeds fanatics and provokes a war.

In the 21st century, the influence of religions on the earth began to decline considerably. With the Internet and technology, people can access information faster.
To me, after entering the 22st century, religions will have completely disappeared.

I would not have argued. It would be nice to keep it that way. Unfortunately the governments of almost all States of the world support narcotic people by religious leaders. Of religion and state at the same time.

Because it is easier to keep people under control by using religion. As a political argument, you can put the people to sleep with religious rhetoric. You can motivate people to fight.

Throughout history, ruling people have used religion. But people will not be able to use religion as the level of knowledge increases.

From the moment they choose to believe in knowledge instead of religion, no one will fool them.

[Flamma]

Well, science is not religion and it doesn't just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion's virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.

Though it is true that Religion doesn't have substantial evidence in most cases, there will still be instances that Science itself will not be able to explain a questionable occurance. This would still boil down to the question, is there really something or someone who's higher than any of us?

[jovs]

Well, science is not religion and it doesn't just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion's virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.

Though it is true that Religion doesn't have substantial evidence in most cases, there will still be instances that Science itself will not be able to explain a questionable occurance. This would still boil down to the question, is there really something or someone who's higher than any of us?

Science and religion have a huge difference. They differ in a way of searching the truth. Science seek the truth by observation, experementation, empirical solution, and etc. Meanwhile in religion, it's not about the lack of evidence, they focused more on the bible. Religion has also evidence, however science have more evidence since science believes only in what they see.

[Lacander]

Well, science is not religion and it doesn't just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion's virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.

Though it is true that Religion doesn't have substantial evidence in most cases, there will still be instances that Science itself will not be able to explain a questionable occurance. This would still boil down to the question, is there really something or someone who's higher than any of us?

Science and religion have a huge difference. They differ in a way of searching the truth. Science seek the truth by observation, experementation, empirical solution, and etc. Meanwhile in religion, it's not about the lack of evidence, they focused more on the bible. Religion has also evidence, however science have more evidence since science believes only in what they see.

If a religion uses as proof of the Bible, for me it is not proof. Indeed science proves any phenomenon empirically. It is not always something that you can touch. How many years, the Church denied that the earth is round?

[rchstr]

Well, science is not religion and it doesn't just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion's virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.

Though it is true that Religion doesn't have substantial evidence in most cases, there will still be instances that Science itself will not be able to explain a questionable occurance. This would still boil down to the question, is there really something or someone who's higher than any of us?

Science and religion have a huge difference. They differ in a way of searching the truth. Science seek the truth by observation, experementation, empirical solution, and etc. Meanwhile in religion, it's not about the lack of evidence, they focused more on the bible. Religion has also evidence, however science have more evidence since science believes only in what they see.

If a religion uses as proof of the Bible, for me it is not proof. Indeed science proves any phenomenon empirically. It is not always something that you can touch. How many years, the Church denied that the earth is round?

yes church denied that the earth is round because the church only see it as a flat. but when someone try to research about the planets and the movement of the sun and the stars they might have an idea that the earth is circular. religion uses bible as a proof. science uses proofs or evidences also. so i think there is a falacy.

[Lacander]

Well, science is not religion and it doesn't just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion's virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.

Though it is true that Religion doesn't have substantial evidence in most cases, there will still be instances that Science itself will not be able to explain a questionable occurance. This would still boil down to the question, is there really something or someone who's higher than any of us?

Science and religion have a huge difference. They differ in a way of searching the truth. Science seek the truth by observation, experementation, empirical solution, and etc. Meanwhile in religion, it's not about the lack of evidence, they focused more on the bible. Religion has also evidence, however science have more evidence since science believes only in what they see.

If a religion uses as proof of the Bible, for me it is not proof. Indeed science proves any phenomenon empirically. It is not always something that you can touch. How many years, the Church denied that the earth is round?

yes church denied that the earth is round because the church only see it as a flat. but when someone try to research about the planets and the movement of the sun and the stars they might have an idea that the earth is circular. religion uses bible as a proof. science uses proofs or evidences also. so i think there is a falacy.

What is a little such examples? It seems to me that there were enough examples where it has been proven that the Bible is lying. You will believe a man who on several occasions lied to you?

[coin revolution]

Science is not a religion. In classical belief systems, you accept without question. But science is based on experimentation and observation. Scientists are questioning. Scientific theories develop over time. But belief systems are not changed.

Science != Religion

I agree with you on part of science. Science is facts and hard evidance, so in sciend there is eithar truth or false answer. But religion is not blind belief, for some people that is. There are those who choose to be blind. But there is also questioning in religion, there is diferent understanding of same sentence. Religion is not something that you need to believe blindly, well that is what I think.

A person who begins to question the religion becomes an atheist over time. Because religious arguments and scientific arguments are in conflict with each other.
If one starts to question the religion, it will reject the religion . Because religions want their ideas to be accepted without questioning.

Science always encourages interrogation.

[BADecker]

Science is not a religion. In classical belief systems, you accept without question. But science is based on experimentation and observation. Scientists are questioning. Scientific theories develop over time. But belief systems are not changed.

Science != Religion

I agree with you on part of science. Science is facts and hard evidance, so in sciend there is eithar truth or false answer. But religion is not blind belief, for some people that is. There are those who choose to be blind. But there is also questioning in religion, there is diferent understanding of same sentence. Religion is not something that you need to believe blindly, well that is what I think.

A person who begins to question the religion becomes an atheist over time. Because religious arguments and scientific arguments are in conflict with each other.
If one starts to question the religion, it will reject the religion . Because religions want their ideas to be accepted without questioning.

Science always encourages interrogation.

You are partially right, but in a way different than you think.

Some people don't believe in God, but they are very religious, even with a non-God formal religion. Examining science doesn't make them into atheists if they already are atheists.

Religious arguments and science arguments are not always in conflict. In the case where science fact proves God to exist, the basics of the existence of God are not in conflict between science and religion. See here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Science theory that suggests that God doesn't exist in the face of science fact (^^^) which shows that He does, will always remain theory. People who believe theory to be fact, when it is not known to be fact, have a religion going for themselves. So, yes. In this case science fact rules over science religion.

It definitely is time for believers in science theory to "interrogate" their science religion to see that it fails. Most other religions simply have points of belief that science has not determined to be false.

For example. The scientific age of the earth has not been proven. So when there is a conflict with a non-scientific, religious age of the earth, it's anybody's guess. When the non-proven scientific age of the earth is believed to be factual, there is science religion going there.

[gabmen]

Science is not a religion. In classical belief systems, you accept without question. But science is based on experimentation and observation. Scientists are questioning. Scientific theories develop over time. But belief systems are not changed.

Science != Religion

I agree with you on part of science. Science is facts and hard evidance, so in sciend there is eithar truth or false answer. But religion is not blind belief, for some people that is. There are those who choose to be blind. But there is also questioning in religion, there is diferent understanding of same sentence. Religion is not something that you need to believe blindly, well that is what I think.

A person who begins to question the religion becomes an atheist over time. Because religious arguments and scientific arguments are in conflict with each other.
If one starts to question the religion, it will reject the religion . Because religions want their ideas to be accepted without questioning.

Science always encourages interrogation.

I have to agree with you there that mostly religion is ran by faith while science by reason. Though i don't really agree that these two can't go along with each other. Sometimes, people have to believe in something that they can't really explain to be better persons. I myself prefer proof before i believe in something but there are times when you just have to take a leap of faith.

[FlightyPouch]

Damn, this conciousness is drowning me in just by reading these post. By the way, science for me is not a religion. It is a study of the physical and natural world.
It is not a religion, there are no priest or bishops, but there are scientists and geniuses. There are no churches or other places to praise the god but there are experiment rooms and other observatories.
Science is the solution of every problem that these world has. There are few problems in these world that science cant explain, but I know everything will be explained by science, there are just some discoveries that are not yet discovered but if it is discovered, that will be a door for a new discovery relating to everything.

[BADecker]

Damn, this conciousness is drowning me in just by reading these post. By the way, science for me is not a religion. It is a study of the physical and natural world.
It is not a religion, there are no priest or bishops, but there are scientists and geniuses. There are no churches or other places to praise the god but there are experiment rooms and other observatories.
Science is the solution of every problem that these world has. There are few problems in these world that science cant explain, but I know everything will be explained by science, there are just some discoveries that are not yet discovered but if it is discovered, that will be a door for a new discovery relating to everything.

This is really good. The people of the world and of science need more people like you. People who understand that big bang, black hole, relativity, evolution, and a whole bunch of other theories are not fact.

People get too hung up on these theories as though they are fact, when it is not know that they are fact, and when some of them should be even dropped as theory, because it has been proven that they will never be determined to be fact, even if they really are factual.

[Stavri]

I remember a dialog from a movie (Contact). Dialog was like this. "Ironically, the thing people are most hungry for - meaning - is the one thing science hasn't been able to give them."

Religions mostly give meaning. But science can not... So i can not consider science as a religion.

[kodes88]

No, not all science is a religion, but all are in the science of religion. All the knowledge that exists and has spread around the world to learn from religion, even that does not exist yet is being learned through religion. Religion is the main yanng of all the science that exist in the world. There will be no science if there is no religion.