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@suchMOON your posting of random chart does not support the ION price increase during that period of time! @suchMOON Your chart does not display ION Price... you should add axis label to clarify your chart...
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December 19, 2017, 06:42:12 PM Last edit: December 19, 2017, 07:49:07 PM by WildShark |
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@suchMOON your posting of random chart does not support the ION price increase during that period of time! @suchMOON Your chart does not display ION Price (USD)... you should add axis label to clarify your chart...
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December 19, 2017, 08:38:23 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 02:40:01 PM by suchmoon |
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@suchMOON Your chart does not display ION Price (USD)... you should add axis label to clarify your chart...
Wow, you're now replying to yourself and making multiple posts in a row... much spammer, such ionomy. My chart has all it needs. I'm not gonna start adding shit to it just to make you feel better. You don't like ION price in BTC? I can totally understand that. Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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December 19, 2017, 11:02:27 PM |
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the data is there korvas and hard to argue with. the big point of demonstration is wildsharks deliberate misleading by using the angle he wants when it suits him even if its not true.
I sorry to say that I look at the situation as a half full glass and you view the glass as half empty... nothing wrong with that Stop lying, asshole. I did no such thing. I'm showing the ludicrously blatant lies of shills like yourself and sharkie.
@suchMOON I can't understand how you can not get on the ION train and shill Promote like the rest of us!!!!ION Price: TWO-EIGHTY Dollars and holding with good Volume Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer
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December 20, 2017, 12:36:50 AM Last edit: December 20, 2017, 12:52:38 AM by WildShark |
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@o0o0 The "free" coins are now valued 14 times the ICO price (1400%)
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December 20, 2017, 01:03:05 AM |
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the data is there korvas and hard to argue with. the big point of demonstration is wildsharks deliberate misleading by using the angle he wants when it suits him even if its not true.
I sorry to say that I look at the situation as a half full glass and you view the glass as half empty... nothing wrong with that Stop lying, asshole. I did no such thing. I'm showing the ludicrously blatant lies of shills like yourself and sharkie.
@suchMOON I can't understand how you can not get on the ION train and shill Promote like the rest of us!!!!ION Price: TWO-EIGHTY Dollars and holding with good Volume Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer Anyone still holding sub 20k ion, a node or nodes since April 2016 and not converting any to BTC are obviously in it for the long haul so at this stage for them it's all about building your stash not about today's profitability. For these people profitability calculations today are meaningless. What about a scenario in which someone since April 2 every day converted their stake reward to BTC. What impact would that have on profitability as BTC payouts reduced but BTC value increased ? Both are examples that don't reflect the real world. The reality is I think is somewhere in between different for every investor each making money with the only question being who made the most.
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December 20, 2017, 01:50:55 AM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 02:56:58 PM by suchmoon |
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Anyone still holding sub 20k ion, a node or nodes since April 2016 and not converting any to BTC are obviously in it for the long haul so at this stage for them it's all about building your stash not about today's profitability. For these people profitability calculations today are meaningless. What about a scenario in which someone since April 2 every day converted their stake reward to BTC. What impact would that have on profitability as BTC payouts reduced but BTC value increased ? Ok, what about it? Got the numbers? Didn't think so. Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken imageBoth are examples that don't reflect the real world. The reality is I think is somewhere in between different for every investor each making money with the only question being who made the most. It's obvious to everyone except braindead paycoiners that dropping down from 55k sat to 15k sat can't possibly result in "making money". But keep going, your convulsions are quite entertaining. Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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December 20, 2017, 04:27:17 AM |
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Anyone still holding sub 20k ion, a node or nodes since April 2016 and not converting any to BTC are obviously in it for the long haul so at this stage for them it's all about building your stash not about today's profitability. For these people profitability calculations today are meaningless. What about a scenario in which someone since April 2 every day converted their stake reward to BTC. What impact would that have on profitability as BTC payouts reduced but BTC value increased ? Ok, what about it? Got the numbers? Didn't think so. Both are examples that don't reflect the real world. The reality is I think is somewhere in between different for every investor each making money with the only question being who made the most. It's obvious to everyone except braindead paycoiners that dropping down from 55k sat to 15k sat can't possibly result in "making money". But keep going, your convulsions are quite entertaining. Why would I have those numbers Not grasping at straws just looking at my spreadsheets It's obvious to everyone except braindead paycoiners that dropping down from 55k sat to 15k sat can't possibly result in "making money". But keep going, your convulsions are quite entertaining. Of course you can. It's when 15K sat is more valuable than 55K sat....... you do realise that the value of BTC fluctuates. But I guess when you could have bought ION at 20 cents it can cloud the mind when you see it rising to undervalued pricing levels of $2.67. If it makes you feel better I've lost shitloads of money will lose even more when the price hits $5 / 0.000295
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December 20, 2017, 04:28:35 AM |
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the data is there korvas and hard to argue with. the big point of demonstration is wildsharks deliberate misleading by using the angle he wants when it suits him even if its not true.
I sorry to say that I look at the situation as a half full glass and you view the glass as half empty... nothing wrong with that Stop lying, asshole. I did no such thing. I'm showing the ludicrously blatant lies of shills like yourself and sharkie.
@suchMOON I can't understand how you can not get on the ION train and shill Promote like the rest of us!!!!ION Price: TWO-EIGHTY Dollars and holding with good Volume Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer Anyone still holding sub 20k ion, a node or nodes since April 2016 and not converting any to BTC are obviously in it for the long haul so at this stage for them it's all about building your stash not about today's profitability. For these people profitability calculations today are meaningless. What about a scenario in which someone since April 2 every day converted their stake reward to BTC. What impact would that have on profitability as BTC payouts reduced but BTC value increased ? Both are examples that don't reflect the real world. The reality is I think is somewhere in between different for every investor each making money with the only question being who made the most. you sure? i didnt buy ion so it reflects the real world for me so saying it doesnt reflect the real worlds a lie you naughty boy. i showed my math if you want to compare it to staking along the way then you show the math. until then your statement is unfounded. based on required btc convert you still need to generated between 40,000 to 60,000 additional coins on top of your masternode to match btc amount. i dont think ion was that hyper inflating in a year.... pretty sure apr wasnt 400%. i on the other hand did absolutely nothing held my btc and got magnitudes more usd value. that is a simple truth. if you disagree show how with math.
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December 20, 2017, 04:40:56 AM |
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@o0o0 The "free" coins are now valued 14 times the ICO price (1400%) thats crap... meanwhile my held btc did 3800%. so basically your free coins cost you 2400% using your line of reasoning? sorry for your loss you do realise since you play usd measure your ion will never catch my btc usd value right? since your usd value relies on btc usd rising as your sat value from ico has shrunk. this pegs it to btc’s increases and decreases. technically until your 20,000 masternode generates 60,000 additional coins you arent matched in btc. whats a node do 23 coins a day? 60,000 / 23 = 2608.7 days 2608.7 / 365 (ignoring leap years) = 7.14 years again sorry for your loss. ill be retired and driving my lambo for 7 years before tou get back to starting return.
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December 20, 2017, 05:25:40 AM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 02:42:56 PM by suchmoon |
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Why would I have those numbers Because you're the asshole making ludicrous claims. Not grasping at straws just looking at my spreadsheets Spreadsheets without numbers? It's obvious to everyone except braindead paycoiners that dropping down from 55k sat to 15k sat can't possibly result in "making money". But keep going, your convulsions are quite entertaining. Of course you can. It's when 15K sat is more valuable than 55K sat....... Which is never. you do realise that the value of BTC fluctuates.
Really? I had no clue LOL... But I guess when you could have bought ION at 20 cents it can cloud the mind when you see it rising to undervalued pricing levels of $2.67. If it makes you feel better I've lost shitloads of money will lose even more when the price hits $5 / 0.000295 Yeah, I'm thoroughly clouded by some illiquid shitcoin lagging behind the whole shitcoining bubble... ARE YOU REALLY THAT FUCKING DENSE? I can't imagine any sane person who could possibly regret holding bitcoins for the last 24 months vs wasting it on ION. Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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December 20, 2017, 12:09:26 PM |
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the data is there korvas and hard to argue with. the big point of demonstration is wildsharks deliberate misleading by using the angle he wants when it suits him even if its not true.
I sorry to say that I look at the situation as a half full glass and you view the glass as half empty... nothing wrong with that Stop lying, asshole. I did no such thing. I'm showing the ludicrously blatant lies of shills like yourself and sharkie.
@suchMOON I can't understand how you can not get on the ION train and shill Promote like the rest of us!!!!ION Price: TWO-EIGHTY Dollars and holding with good Volume Math is pretty simple... ICO price 25 cents..... current price is 6X this price at over a buck and half in dollars...
Same kind of defiant obstinacy that made you gleefully waste your worthless slow obsolete bitcoins on XPY. After you lost what, 99% on that? ... you're now merely 94% down after the 6X "gain" LOL. Enjoy your buck and a half, don't spend it all in one place. Your quite wrong again Suchmoon... Everyone that has IONs from the ICO are 6 times richer... I am making more profit holding the Bitcoin produced from my "free" coins!!! https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/ion 0.20c each 4th april bitcoin - 421.29 ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd) fast foward to now ion is 0.00009640 bitcoin is 16,595.72 1 ion in usd is 1.60 20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc - usd increase $28,000 - btc change -7.56643939 holding ion value $32,000 holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51 i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal. argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable. if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable. did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin. ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer Anyone still holding sub 20k ion, a node or nodes since April 2016 and not converting any to BTC are obviously in it for the long haul so at this stage for them it's all about building your stash not about today's profitability. For these people profitability calculations today are meaningless. What about a scenario in which someone since April 2 every day converted their stake reward to BTC. What impact would that have on profitability as BTC payouts reduced but BTC value increased ? Both are examples that don't reflect the real world. The reality is I think is somewhere in between different for every investor each making money with the only question being who made the most. you sure? i didnt buy ion so it reflects the real world for me so saying it doesnt reflect the real worlds a lie you naughty boy. i showed my math if you want to compare it to staking along the way then you show the math. until then your statement is unfounded. based on required btc convert you still need to generated between 40,000 to 60,000 additional coins on top of your masternode to match btc amount. i dont think ion was that hyper inflating in a year.... pretty sure apr wasnt 400%. i on the other hand did absolutely nothing held my btc and got magnitudes more usd value. that is a simple truth. if you disagree show how with math. One of my earlier posts to you - May 18 2016 https://i.gyazo.com/a102b29fbedc36a8977f30473cd9bb96.pngYep your math does reflect you.......... a troll Right from day 1 you've dissed the team & project so whatever I share isn't going to change anything, no point elaborating. Have a nice day
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December 20, 2017, 12:15:30 PM |
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Why would I have those numbers Because you're the asshole making ludicrous claims. Not grasping at straws just looking at my spreadsheets Spreadsheets without numbers? It's obvious to everyone except braindead paycoiners that dropping down from 55k sat to 15k sat can't possibly result in "making money". But keep going, your convulsions are quite entertaining. Of course you can. It's when 15K sat is more valuable than 55K sat....... Which is never. you do realise that the value of BTC fluctuates.
Really? I had no clue LOL... But I guess when you could have bought ION at 20 cents it can cloud the mind when you see it rising to undervalued pricing levels of $2.67. If it makes you feel better I've lost shitloads of money will lose even more when the price hits $5 / 0.000295 Yeah, I'm thoroughly clouded by some illiquid shitcoin lagging behind the whole shitcoining bubble... ARE YOU REALLY THAT FUCKING DENSE? I can't imagine any sane person who could possibly regret holding bitcoins for the last 24 months vs wasting it on ION. And I can't imagine any sane person spending the last 24 months trolling this thread
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December 20, 2017, 01:11:57 PM |
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And I can't imagine any sane person spending the last 24 months trolling this thread I think everyone should re-read the thread and count the amount of contrastive criticism suchmoon has provided for the two years of effort. All the advice that has been poured into the Ionomy Vision!!! @suchmoon Job well done for your effort!!! The funny thing is that the Team is still around with new growth being laid out!!! Join the Ionomy today https://ionomy.com/
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December 20, 2017, 01:30:40 PM |
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Over the last week, as well as increase in ION Price, there has been increase in traded Volume
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December 20, 2017, 02:15:43 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 02:43:21 PM by suchmoon |
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One of my earlier posts
Not early enough. Your very first one on this forum sets the tone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg14764422#msg14764422Right from day 1 you've dissed the team & project so whatever I share isn't going to change anything, no point elaborating.
Except there is nothing to elaborate on your bullshit claims... because they're bullshit. How about those Australian dollar signs? Any different from the Canadian ones? And I can't imagine any sane person spending the last 24 months trolling this thread I completely agree. You don't sound sane to me at all. Exhibit A above. Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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December 20, 2017, 06:06:34 PM |
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One of my earlier posts
Not early enough. Your very first one on this forum sets the tone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg14764422#msg14764422Right from day 1 you've dissed the team & project so whatever I share isn't going to change anything, no point elaborating.
Except there is nothing to elaborate on your bullshit claims... because they're bullshit. How about those Australian dollar signs? Any different from the Canadian ones? And I can't imagine any sane person spending the last 24 months trolling this thread I completely agree. You don't sound sane to me at all. Exhibit A above. Not early enough. Your very first one on this forum sets the tone: No, 500 of the first 573 posts on this thread set the tone of my post
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December 20, 2017, 07:25:24 PM Last edit: December 20, 2017, 07:35:59 PM by WildShark |
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Hello ionomy Community, It’s time….. to go to the moon. Starting today, The Moon or Bust! public beta is available for Android and iOS.
Be the first to reach the Moon and win…. BIG TIME.
Yours in spaceflight, The ionomy Team https://news.ionomy.com/its-moon-time-baby/
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December 20, 2017, 07:36:59 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 02:43:48 PM by suchmoon |
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800 posts later you still haven't figured out how to use quotes... you seem to be allergic to any kind of knowledge. And thank you for reminding how much you adore gawceo. Meanwhile in the real world ION is still an abhorrent shitcoin peddled by ridiculously incompetent shills... Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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December 20, 2017, 07:51:07 PM |
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800 posts later you still haven't figured out how to use quotes... you seem to be allergic to any kind of knowledge. And thank you for reminding how much you adore gawceo. Meanwhile in the real world ION is still an abhorrent shitcoin peddled by ridiculously incompetent shills... https://news.ionomy.com/its-moon-time-baby/
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