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To be honest it does seem like this whole drama has mustered up a pretty good theory on the real Satoshi, maybe Craig finally decided he couldn't pretend to take claim for his dead friends work.
I am pretty much staying in the David Kleiman = SN group for now, and I am pretty damn okay with that.
The only reason he used Kleiman is because he's dead. Dead people are convenient because there are no contradictions in the unfolding story. The narrative is controlled by the person talking as the dead can't speak. It's like saying a lie that involves others. It's better if you lie about something that involves only you - you need less witnesses. If you have to involve others, well, dead people are the way to go.... True but I am pretty sure Satoshi is dead, or we would have heard something by now via some avenue. We probably have in 2 instances. 1) I'm not Dorian Nakamoto 2) The August post on the dev mailing list (The third one with "I'm not Craig Wright - we are all Satoshi" was spoofed) I don't think these messages: about Dorian, and dev mailing list - can be counted as proofs of Satoshi's real actions. At this point I refuse to believe in any action of "Satoshi" without him proving his identity first. We don't need this drama.
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May 05, 2016, 03:16:02 PM |
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Well he did get his 15 days of fame! Now we can forget the cheater.
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May 05, 2016, 03:17:41 PM |
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Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'
Classic sociopath. Now he's the "victim". ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Gavin still has some explaining to do in my mind.
No. Gavin either got conned pretty badly, or has signed that NDA that was also offered to Antonopoulos. Either way, he's a risk; it is time for both him and Matonis to depart. Drama ended. Let's continue with the blocksize debate....
Replace the existing drama with another type of drama? There is no need. Core has a clear plan for 2016. Aaaaahhhhhh..... The Purge continues. Sure good you're all freedom loving anarcaps and libertarians.
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May 05, 2016, 03:17:47 PM |
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, what a joker. I just can't it's too hard to sign a block it hurts me emotionally to prove I am not a big fucking liar. Oh poor me just believe me on my word and not the two minutes it takes to sign an address. what a sad guy this craig dude really is. i'd like to understand what he tried to achieve with thi bs. Prophesies are being fulfilled... And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. And the people stood beholding. And the sig spammers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Satoshi, the chosen of God. And the degenerate gamblers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar, And saying, If thou be the king of Crypto, save thyself. And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and 1337, THIS IS SATOSHI NAKOMOTO, INVENTOR OF BITCOIN.
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May 05, 2016, 03:20:06 PM |
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what a sad guy this craig dude really is.
Dude - he is an Aussie. Aussie do weird shit like this. Who the fuck knows why? Probably some strange DNA defect. Fuck them. Lol, in all serious i hope if he was satoshi he has support in some way.
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May 05, 2016, 03:25:47 PM |
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To be honest it does seem like this whole drama has mustered up a pretty good theory on the real Satoshi, maybe Craig finally decided he couldn't pretend to take claim for his dead friends work.
I am pretty much staying in the David Kleiman = SN group for now, and I am pretty damn okay with that.
The only reason he used Kleiman is because he's dead. Dead people are convenient because there are no contradictions in the unfolding story. The narrative is controlled by the person talking as the dead can't speak. It's like saying a lie that involves others. It's better if you lie about something that involves only you - you need less witnesses. If you have to involve others, well, dead people are the way to go.... True but I am pretty sure Satoshi is dead, or we would have heard something by now via some avenue. We probably have in 2 instances. 1) I'm not Dorian Nakamoto 2) The August post on the dev mailing list (The third one with "I'm not Craig Wright - we are all Satoshi" was spoofed) I don't think these messages: about Dorian, and dev mailing list - can be counted as proofs of Satoshi's real actions. At this point I refuse to believe in any action of "Satoshi" without him proving his identity first. We don't need this drama. Using his accounts / emails is some level of proof, for as long as these accounts aren't known to be hacked or renewed by third parties when they expired. It's sure better than signing nothing and saying "oh my friends over here vouch for me".
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May 05, 2016, 03:28:34 PM |
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so the TV station was right from the very beginning.
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May 05, 2016, 04:00:43 PM |
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I bet Craig Wright gets arrested and extradited back to Australia soon to face charges for the tax scam he pulled off there. If he can't prove he's Satoshi thet are going to get him, and he can't prove he's Satoshi because he's not.
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May 05, 2016, 04:02:17 PM |
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http://vitalbet.com/sport/match/577428Book closes 31.05.2016, 16:00 DR. CRAIG WRIGHT TO PROVE HE IS SATOSHI? Yes 8.95 No 1.02 That escalated quickly ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 05, 2016, 04:08:15 PM |
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One thing.. IF SN is Kleiman.. When was that post made by Satoshi about him not being Dorian Nakamoto.. ? Wasn't that AFTER 2013..
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May 05, 2016, 04:08:39 PM |
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May 05, 2016, 04:22:57 PM |
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Matonis, Andresen and the BBC deserve to get scammed out of 0.017 BTC each for giving credence to this big lie. At least it's cost them £5 each. Why didn't they demand he signs a message properly on this forum or tell him to get lost?
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May 05, 2016, 04:35:58 PM |
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No. Gavin either got conned pretty badly, or has signed that NDA that was also offered to Antonopoulos. Either way, he's a risk; it is time for both him and Matonis to depart.
Aaaaahhhhhh..... The Purge continues. Sure good you're all freedom loving anarcaps and libertarians. To be fair, the guy is a liability. I don't know why anyone would want someone so credulous on their team. This is the same guy who wanted to introduce a centralised node blacklist downloaded from the net... great idea, no problems there.
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May 05, 2016, 04:36:43 PM |
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So Matonis and Andreson whore themselves once again, and happily play Craigs tune, while everyone else is rightly demanding that the power of the blockchain be shown to the world in one easy transaction, which does not need to involve anyone else. Jeeeze, the foundation (small f) didnt stand a chance with these self serving, self righteous clowns deciding how Bitcoin should be used and importantly, perceived. I wonder if people who have received advises from these two over the years (companies/governments/trade reps etc.), are questioning the info they got. I bloody would. Andreas for President, i say!
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May 05, 2016, 05:26:25 PM |
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No. Gavin either got conned pretty badly, or has signed that NDA that was also offered to Antonopoulos. Either way, he's a risk; it is time for both him and Matonis to depart.
Aaaaahhhhhh..... The Purge continues. Sure good you're all freedom loving anarcaps and libertarians. To be fair, the guy is a liability. I don't know why anyone would want someone so credulous on their team. This is the same guy who wanted to introduce a centralised node blacklist downloaded from the net... great idea, no problems there. That's simply not true. I know what you're thinking of, but if you have to add that much colour to make your point it's probably not a good one anyway.
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May 05, 2016, 06:26:11 PM |
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Look what you all did! You scared Craig away! http://www.drcraigwright.netI’m Sorry
I believed that I could do this. I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me. But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.
When the rumors began, my qualifications and character were attacked. When those allegations were proven false, new allegations have already begun. I know now that I am not strong enough for this.
I know that this weakness will cause great damage to those that have supported me, and particularly to Jon Matonis and Gavin Andresen. I can only hope that their honour and credibility is not irreparably tainted by my actions. They were not deceived, but I know that the world will never believe that now. I can only say I’m sorry.
And goodbye. Well, it was fun.
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May 05, 2016, 06:29:58 PM |
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That's simply not true. I know what you're thinking of, but if you have to add that much colour to make your point it's probably not a good one anyway.
What isn't true? Besides Hearn, he was the main proponent and developer of XT. The code requested to download a list of IP addresses from a server for a blacklist.
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May 05, 2016, 06:36:23 PM |
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Look what you all did! You scared Craig away! http://www.drcraigwright.netI’m Sorry
I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.
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I know now that I am not strong enough for this.
Well, it was fun. Broke what? Do not have the courage for what? Cannot what? Strong enough for what? We ll, at least his statements are somewhat crypto xD
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May 05, 2016, 06:42:14 PM |
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That's simply not true. I know what you're thinking of, but if you have to add that much colour to make your point it's probably not a good one anyway.
What isn't true? Besides Hearn, he was the main proponent and developer of XT. The code requested to download a list of IP addresses from a server for a blacklist. To give lower priority in a ddos. Not blacklist. The blacklist thing was because you can't have a brainwave in BTC without everyone shouting "Slippery Slope!!!".
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May 05, 2016, 06:49:42 PM |
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A single key transaction wouldn't have been enough to prove that he has control of Satoshi's stake in the project anyway....He probably figured out the futility of that effort and changed his mind....or, you guys are just his puppets in an opening act and he's making you dance a little before exposing his true motives....Probably, both!
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