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February 09, 2016, 04:21:04 PM
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Exchange of bitcoins can be done through PayPal only when exchanging peer to peer. Exchanges are not allowed and your PayPal account will be frozen and the money reversed. When you exchange peer to peer, you have to use a different reason other than exchange of bitcons, e.g. purchase of eBooks, etc

True, But even then, sometimes PayPal can ask for proofs that you purchased or sold that eBooks or what ever you tell them that you sold or purchased Cheesy...

Anyway: theymos you should change the "AlertPay" with "PayZa"  as they changed the name few years ago Smiley

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February 10, 2016, 12:44:31 AM
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Anyone know this guy? I made my first trade here with him then he opened disputes for an unauthorized transaction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562081

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February 10, 2016, 12:05:50 PM
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Anyone know this guy? I made my first trade here with him then he opened disputes for an unauthorized transaction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562081


He did the same with me for $195 and Paypal reversed the transaction to him immediately! I have contacted the Support to see if I can appeal.

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February 10, 2016, 12:10:39 PM
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Here is the e-mail I sent:
I just logged into my Paypal account and found this transaction 0AF317516C2973904 reversed. This was a shock to me so I logged into my e-mail account to see if there are any messages from Paypal and I found two in quick succession. One notifying me that a case was opened and investigation was underway and the next one which was sent 2 minutes later says that "case is resolved" and payment reversed.Case number: PP-004-584-383-274. Wow you take 2 minutes and take the money from legit users and send it back to scammers. I never knew that I can reverse all my online spendings with Paypal in literally 2 minutes for no reason.
Anyways just come to the point: I'll prove below that the buyer has received what he paid for and he  is just a cheater and he shouldn't have got the refund for payment and shouldn't have qualified for so called "Buyer Protection".
Here is his initial message asking me to sell him bitcoin and he will pay via his Paypal account :
http://i.imgur.com/uf8GVZR.png
Here are further messages he sent to me which confirm that he sent payment to my Paypal and I sent him the "Digital Cryptocurrency" he requested and then he thanked me that he received it: http://i.imgur.com/bpmMlSv.png
Here is another screenshot which confirm that I sent him "bitcoin" removed ; to  the same address in his message above. (He already confirmed that he received it and thanked me).
He also submitted feedback on my public profile that he successfully traded with me http://i.imgur.com/DpxMMEM.png Third feedback is from him. You can also view this feedback online it's public https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=141466 (I believe he has not deleted it yet).
Now a couple of days later he has opened a dispute out of nowhere and instantly got back his money rerversed from me. I have a firm believe that this was done in haste by cutomer support of Paypal. Please reverse the transaction it back to me.
My Paypal email: XXX
Best regards

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February 10, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
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Anyone know this guy? I made my first trade here with him then he opened disputes for an unauthorized transaction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562081



Fifteen will get you twenty [1] that samantlia will still say what a wonderful trader casio87 is.

samantlia sent casio87 funds (apparently) and casio87 sent them to morocco.man 's known wallet.

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February 10, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
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Anyone know this guy? I made my first trade here with him then he opened disputes for an unauthorized transaction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562081


He did the same with me for $195 and Paypal reversed the transaction to him immediately! I have contacted the Support to see if I can appeal.

I don't know if Paypal knows he made his account with the fake identity. Just saw him posting on a VCC thread.
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February 10, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
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Here is the e-mail I sent:
I just logged into my Paypal account and found this transaction 0AF317516C2973904 reversed. This was a shock to me so I logged into my e-mail account to see if there are any messages from Paypal and I found two in quick succession. One notifying me that a case was opened and investigation was underway and the next one which was sent 2 minutes later says that "case is resolved" and payment reversed.Case number: PP-004-584-383-274. Wow you take 2 minutes and take the money from legit users and send it back to scammers. I never knew that I can reverse all my online spendings with Paypal in literally 2 minutes for no reason.
Anyways just come to the point: I'll prove below that the buyer has received what he paid for and he  is just a cheater and he shouldn't have got the refund for payment and shouldn't have qualified for so called "Buyer Protection".
Here is his initial message asking me to sell him bitcoin and he will pay via his Paypal account :
http://i.imgur.com/uf8GVZR.png
Here are further messages he sent to me which confirm that he sent payment to my Paypal and I sent him the "Digital Cryptocurrency" he requested and then he thanked me that he received it: http://i.imgur.com/bpmMlSv.png
Here is another screenshot which confirm that I sent him "bitcoin" http://i.imgur.com/yVHKEXs.png ; to  the same address in his message above. (He already confirmed that he received it and thanked me).
He also submitted feedback on my public profile that he successfully traded with me http://i.imgur.com/DpxMMEM.png Third feedback is from him. You can also view this feedback online it's public https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=141466 (I believe he has not deleted it yet).
Now a couple of days later he has opened a dispute out of nowhere and instantly got back his money rerversed from me. I have a firm believe that this was done in haste by cutomer support of Paypal. Please reverse the transaction it back to me.
My Paypal email: XXX
Best regards
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February 10, 2016, 06:33:29 PM
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Always ask for friends and family while receiving payment.

Which PayPal reverses.

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February 10, 2016, 06:48:42 PM
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Anyone know this guy? I made my first trade here with him then he opened disputes for an unauthorized transaction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562081


He did the same with me for $195 and Paypal reversed the transaction to him immediately! I have contacted the Support to see if I can appeal.
Sorry for you loss but why did you even accept PayPal from a Newbie?

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February 10, 2016, 08:03:04 PM
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Just a heads up. Don't trust that whole "I'll send you a selfie, my ID, everything you want" bullshit. I don't wanna post it here to give other scammers any ideas but if you're trustworthy enough, send me a message to find out why.
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February 10, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
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Always ask for friends and family while receiving payment.

Which PayPal reverses.
I received as Friends and Family and its also gone now they closed my account and from today I am not going to use paypal in my life its really shit
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February 10, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
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I don't know Personal/Gift payment is also reversible until yesterday. The dispute is still going and I hope my proofs will get my money back.
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February 11, 2016, 01:11:03 AM
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Just a heads up. Don't trust that whole "I'll send you a selfie, my ID, everything you want" bullshit. I don't wanna post it here to give other scammers any ideas but if you're trustworthy enough, send me a message to find out why.

Not only that - a scammer can then use your details for identity fraud...

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February 11, 2016, 05:10:02 AM
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I just logged in today and I see PayPal balance with red sign and it is now -192$ , and I see there is multiple refunds made , I doubt someone did this can anyone suggest me something.

The all money were uploaded from cc so I contacted then and 130$ was from Casio so I am sure he is the man behind.
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February 11, 2016, 07:09:12 AM
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I just logged in today and I see PayPal balance with red sign and it is now -192$ , and I see there is multiple refunds made , I doubt someone did this can anyone suggest me something.

The all money were uploaded from cc so I contacted then and 130$ was from Casio so I am sure he is the man behind.


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xetsr 137: -0 / +14   2016-02-06   0.00000000   Reference   Alt of ~PayPal-Trader~. Credit goes to Timelord2067 for pointing out the btc addresses and blockchain tx ids.

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samantlia -2: -1 / +0   2016-02-05   0.13300000      I have done two Paypal to BTC trade with him , nice guy !
wensbo -2: -1 / +0   2016-02-05   0.04000000      Traded with him for his Paypal and my Bitcoins.
casio87 -4: -2 / +0   2016-02-05   0.28000000      Traded a ice volume of bitcoins with him , newbie yet Trusted.
casio87 -4: -2 / +0   2016-02-11   0.00000000      Scammed me of PayPal 130$

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February 17, 2016, 12:05:11 AM
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Hello advised good service for the exchange of Paypal usd exchange btc (Bitcoin) ?
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February 17, 2016, 05:33:47 PM
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Hello advised good service for the exchange of Paypal usd exchange btc (Bitcoin) ?
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February 18, 2016, 03:19:24 AM
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How long after transaction from PayPal can be made chargeback?

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February 18, 2016, 05:07:05 AM
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How long after transaction from PayPal can be made chargeback?

Whenever a judge decides to issue a court order for the chargeback.

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February 18, 2016, 07:52:23 AM
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How long after transaction from PayPal can be made chargeback?
for up to next 179 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds.

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