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April 24, 2014, 07:43:11 PM
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i really hate paypal , in Georgia i am almost 2 month here , so the problem about paypal is i can only send payments .
meaning all my earning site must be throw 3rd party WTH is that , i contacted the freaks of tax paypal , reply me lol i can only send payment not receiving any , so why BTC .
every one know that , BTC is global 2 way payment with almost no tax .
paypal with scammers
bank-charge back that will never stop tell you go to the bank .
if you pay to a company and scam you or close your account [kiss your money bye bye ]
if you start earning really good like over 3k a month , after some months paypal limit the withdrew to 500$ a month [my house rent is 650$]
how many fees paypal really have ?>Huh??
1: transaction fee
2: exchange fee [2 ways]
3: holding money for 6 months and only give you 500$ a month
4: 5$ + 2% fee .
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April 28, 2014, 10:18:34 PM
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Whats the status update of neteller and skrill being reversible these days?
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May 05, 2014, 06:24:52 PM
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I am trying to find a reputable exchange that will payout paypal, somewhere in the minimal range of 50-100 USD. Anyone know of any?

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May 05, 2014, 09:26:08 PM
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I am trying to find a reputable exchange that will payout paypal, somewhere in the minimal range of 50-100 USD. Anyone know of any?
No site currently offering this service you can do exchange with any reputable member in currency exchange section

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May 12, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
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thanx for sharing actually this happened with me . Once I received some amount of money and that was reversed in not more than 3 days. When I contacted PayPal they told me this was not authorized transaction and I lost my money.
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May 31, 2014, 05:44:09 AM
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thanx for sharing actually this happened with me . Once I received some amount of money and that was reversed in not more than 3 days. When I contacted PayPal they told me this was not authorized transaction and I lost my money.

How can moneypak be reversible if you have to pay for it with cash on the spot? LBC also flagged this payment method as totally not secure, but I don't fully understand why. I've bought moneypaks several time and gave it to someone to load it into their paypal.

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May 31, 2014, 07:06:33 AM
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thanx for sharing actually this happened with me . Once I received some amount of money and that was reversed in not more than 3 days. When I contacted PayPal they told me this was not authorized transaction and I lost my money.

How can moneypak be reversible if you have to pay for it with cash on the spot? LBC also flagged this payment method as totally not secure, but I don't fully understand why. I've bought moneypaks several time and gave it to someone to load it into their paypal.

boopy never said anything about MoneyPak. If seller receives direct MoneyPak that is not reversible. However if buyer use PayPal with MoneyPak funds that is reversible unless it's stated for intangible goods. Then it's not reversible. However you don't know if they pay with credit card or MoneyPak. Credit card is reversible.

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May 31, 2014, 08:00:42 PM
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https://www.moneypak.com/refundrequest.aspx

Sometimes MoneyPak will also believe a scammer's bullshit, that their MP was "stolen".

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June 06, 2014, 08:05:47 AM
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In many many cases there are Paypal scum artist so beware not paypal or credit card.
I have lost much money with paypal as their system is buyer oriented.
Lately only they have add a record for the frequent fradulent buyers that works
I had an ebay case with paypal that I lost the case but they did not refund the buyer....
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July 01, 2014, 04:12:44 AM
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I freaking hate PayPal!  Angry

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July 08, 2014, 05:38:48 PM
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If you tell your 'customer' to send the money as gift with the text 'Happy Birthday' or something like that, then they'll have a really hard time charging back the money.

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July 08, 2014, 06:37:31 PM
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I just got scammed out of $3000
I thought i was smart and pretty carefull..and never once did i think that you could
open a bank account solely with a photocopy of and ID.

Lesson learned.
It still hurts though.


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July 08, 2014, 07:45:09 PM
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If you tell your 'customer' to send the money as gift with the text 'Happy Birthday' or something like that, then they'll have a really hard time charging back the money.

It's not really hard at all to pretend you were "hacked".

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July 13, 2014, 08:26:49 AM
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If you tell your 'customer' to send the money as gift with the text 'Happy Birthday' or something like that, then they'll have a really hard time charging back the money.
Wrong. If the 'customer' want charge the money back, he just use another ip and claim a unauthorizated case. How many time more?

You can send how you want, write what you want, there is NO WAY to avoid charge back, if the 'customer' really want.

Is this so hard to get, after 14 pages repeat again and again?
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July 14, 2014, 07:43:11 AM
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I have a very bad experience with PAYZA for that matters.
I have exchanged my PM with a payza user from pakistan whom i knew since last 1 year on Facebook but unfortunately he sent me payza
and in few days he reversed all transactions once he got PM from me and PAYZA dont bother to reply me and reverse transactions
in the favor of that person.So my take away from this bitter experience is that please do not exchange payza or paypal with other e currency
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July 25, 2014, 06:09:51 AM
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Yes, please be very careful of Paypal and a site called sellusbitcoin.com out of the UK.  They reversed a transaction totaling $1107 a few days after the bitcoin had been transferred then claimed it was paypal that reversed it because they suspected me of fraud. I've been with paypal over 10 years with an account in good standing. I would warn anyone not to deal with this company. They also go by Bitcoin Stockers Ltd.   Angry
Thanks for the heads up.  Sorry you ended up having to learn the lesson the hard way.

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July 29, 2014, 05:01:20 AM
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Thank you for making us aware about banking system and clear warning sticky about paypal! I have read other threads, where people do not trust paypal system.
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July 29, 2014, 11:04:26 AM
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Is OKPay trustable? I am going to do some exchanges with it, so it would be very helpful if you tell me your suggestions.
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August 01, 2014, 04:28:38 AM
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Ahhh. Paypal. My good pals. Their support is from every country with GDP of under 200$ per capita.
I dont know why anyone would use those buttholes. Better just lose my money on the street. At least someone will find it and there will be balance in the universe.

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August 06, 2014, 09:40:07 AM
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In 6 years never had a bad experience. From my point of view they are totaly trustable.

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