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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530832 times)
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December 28, 2017, 05:22:52 AM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.
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December 28, 2017, 05:41:35 AM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...  
One reason may be to stay ahead, you don't want to find yourself 6 months from now in a position when a competitor is selling equipment you can't compete with. Also, there are players like Bitfury that may be eating part of Bitmains lunch in the industrial space.
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December 28, 2017, 07:03:37 PM
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I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k  Grin Grin Grin Grin they will announce new miner Cheesy *removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?



Old topic... And no futures...

Stock firmware from Bitmain on the Antminer S9 isn't that great.  If someone re-writes the OS to increase efficiency, I will pay a dev fee.


I tried to reverse the system, with SSD, we can have access to everything.
But there are two solutions for now, use bmminer, and try to disable auto tune, and use any frequency (it's a risk).
Or maybe use ccminer, but it need to compile and work with Asic chip... And maybe it will be more efficiency...

The main question, is what is the goal ? More frequency ? Best cooling ?




Ultimately, to extend the life of the miner.  I use Blissz firmware on an antminer D3.  I can decrease the power consumption while keeping the hashing relatively high.  He also solved the fan noise issue. 
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December 29, 2017, 02:55:01 AM
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I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k  Grin Grin Grin Grin they will announce new miner Cheesy *removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?



Old topic... And no futures...

Stock firmware from Bitmain on the Antminer S9 isn't that great.  If someone re-writes the OS to increase efficiency, I will pay a dev fee.


I tried to reverse the system, with SSD, we can have access to everything.
But there are two solutions for now, use bmminer, and try to disable auto tune, and use any frequency (it's a risk).
Or maybe use ccminer, but it need to compile and work with Asic chip... And maybe it will be more efficiency...

The main question, is what is the goal ? More frequency ? Best cooling ?




Ultimately, to extend the life of the miner.  I use Blissz firmware on an antminer D3.  I can decrease the power consumption while keeping the hashing relatively high.  He also solved the fan noise issue. 

If you install a custom firmware on the Antminer S9, won't that void the warranty from Bitmain? Is there a way to flash the firmware to factory if there is a problem?  Thanks in advance.
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December 29, 2017, 05:21:07 AM
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Selling a $500 Bitmain coupon for $390. Payment with BTC, BCH or ETH.
PM if interested
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December 29, 2017, 05:56:05 PM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...  
One reason may be to stay ahead, you don't want to find yourself 6 months from now in a position when a competitor is selling equipment you can't compete with. Also, there are players like Bitfury that may be eating part of Bitmains lunch in the industrial space.

What's news from Bitfury ?
I think Bitmain have a many money now to R&D, just check their new project Sophon.


Ultimately, to extend the life of the miner.  I use Blissz firmware on an antminer D3.  I can decrease the power consumption while keeping the hashing relatively high.  He also solved the fan noise issue. 

But nothing for S9....
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December 29, 2017, 06:47:26 PM
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I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k  Grin Grin Grin Grin they will announce new miner Cheesy *removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?


Crap! It might be true. One of my 14Th/s is hashing at 9Th/s this morning. Never had a problem with my 13.5.
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December 29, 2017, 07:23:29 PM
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One of my 14Th/s is hashing at 9Th/s this morning. Never had a problem with my 13.5.


One board stopped hashing a couple hours ago. Red light on board was off. System only showed 2 boards. I shutdown, reconnected the cables on the non-hashing board, rebooted and now all 3 hashing..... for now.
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December 29, 2017, 11:19:21 PM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.
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December 30, 2017, 04:53:45 AM
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I received my Jan21 Batch yesterday. 2 out of 3.   I ordered 1 on nov 28 thru DHL. The next day 1 DHL, 1 UPS.

Both DHL arrived together yesterday. UPS still has not shipped. Duty tax was $47 per unit.
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December 30, 2017, 05:38:17 AM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.

Say's who?
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December 30, 2017, 06:54:28 AM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.


Are you pulling up that info out of your ass, or you have source to link for that information?
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December 30, 2017, 07:46:36 AM
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One of my 14Th/s is hashing at 9Th/s this morning. Never had a problem with my 13.5.


One board stopped hashing a couple hours ago. Red light on board was off. System only showed 2 boards. I shutdown, reconnected the cables on the non-hashing board, rebooted and now all 3 hashing..... for now.

The problem with the 14.0s was bad risers, burning out. There was a recall and not very many were shipped, so most got fixed from the factory. The concern is there might be some floating around resellers. There hasn't been a rash of complaints here so it seems like it's not a huge deal.
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December 30, 2017, 08:37:10 AM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.

Say's who?

me
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December 30, 2017, 10:34:25 AM
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lol
7nm for ASIC chip is not confirmed....


I received my Jan21 Batch yesterday. 2 out of 3.   I ordered 1 on nov 28 thru DHL. The next day 1 DHL, 1 UPS.

Both DHL arrived together yesterday. UPS still has not shipped. Duty tax was $47 per unit.



47$ not much...
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December 30, 2017, 03:49:14 PM
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Well I just noticed Bitmain changed my Dec 21-30 batch order to Jan 11-20! Wtf
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December 30, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.

Say's who?

me

I'm sorry, you're AMAMZING!!
You could have just said it was on page 10 of their facebook page.  Grin
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December 30, 2017, 04:42:04 PM
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Well I just noticed Bitmain changed my Dec 21-30 batch order to Jan 11-20! Wtf

Confirmed. I expect we'll be receiving coupons as compensation.

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December 30, 2017, 05:39:26 PM
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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI... 

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction...   you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.


Are you pulling up that info out of your ass, or you have source to link for that information?

The Bitmain claim is being discussed here. I'm not buying the rumors just yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2427528.0
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December 30, 2017, 06:44:03 PM
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Well I just noticed Bitmain changed my Dec 21-30 batch order to Jan 11-20! Wtf

Happened to me too. I had 2 sets of orders for Dec 21-30 made about a day apart. They pushed back the second one about a month ago, and now they pushed back the first one.
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