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February 20, 2018, 07:43:03 PM
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This ANN reminds of the 2014 and 2015 days where FuD on these forums could influence the price. When Dash was still Darkcoin bitcoin talk opinions could easily convince people to part with there Dash but once Dash got listed on more high volume exchanges, what was said on bitcointalk did not make a difference. Gulden is a easy target because new registrations on bittrex has not been opened and you relying on existing users to support the coin, if gulden was on Binance or other high volume exchanges the trolls would be wasting there time on here.
I did not know for Dash , but for gulden , it looks not good.
Not only of the low volume , the hash rate has been divided by 2 ... 600 Ghz in begining of february to less than 300 today.
The nock channel on the slack is closed ... no more activity or because the unfamous rijk ban to much people.
Rank is sinking on CMC ... 200 last week end ...215 today ....
The value still going down ...
The majority of block is empty from any transaction
and it's D-8 before they will announce that pow2 will be delayed one more time.

So if it is an easy target , it is because of what it is
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February 20, 2018, 08:17:13 PM
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One of my minions that is hiding quietly in their slack sent me this today:



It perfectly portrays the dictatorial abuse they pose upon the fanboys, after a guy stated that it's needed to allow both critics and cheerleader to maintain good balance. Let me translate my altrego:

"I'm not one bit interested in balance, what we need is productivity, only that gets Gulden to the next level. Wether this happens in a critical or euphoric way doesn't interest me at all. This slack is not something any user is entitled to, everybody is merely a guest here. We (Admins and I) decide what happens here, if we don't like something, we act upon it. It has nothing to do with democracy, no one has to be here."

Perhaps if only he would get productive and act upon his promise to deliver POW2 and SEGSIG in stead of dictating rules upon his followers........

I guess this says enough  Roll Eyes

When i read this i think only one thing and that is:  This guy has a serious problem.  How can someone become that way?  He cannot have learned it from his father who is a nice dude i think. (Peter Plasman / attorney )  It is what i said before :  Why does he not put al his time in development and marketing his coin and be nice to his users.  What does talking to users of Gulden in this way help the coin.  If Gulden was a company and he was the director he would be on all consumer programs with his strange dictatorship behaviour. He filled his bags and now he thinks talking shit to people ( his customers ) is normal.  Was he always that way also when Gulden was still very small?

Yesterday i asked it on those guys from slack why so much people are banned and how this is helping the coin and they said.  Yeah we think you said the wrong things and maybe got a warning.  The only thing i did was asking a question and then Rijk came in and starts arguing with me and then when you say something back you get a ban  Huh Roll Eyes  And that is not a ban for a week it is a perma ban.  In normal life you get a 2nd chance but not in the Gulden world.  You piss ppl off that way.

Let's say that like 100 ppl are banned,  maybe more maybe less,  and those ppl have on average 10.000 coins and sold them after they got banned then you are talking about  1 milion coins extra dumped on the market and that is noy good for the price  Angry

So RIJK become a normal nice person and treat Gulden buyers good and deliver the development as promised.  How hard can it be  Roll Eyes
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February 21, 2018, 12:56:04 AM
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Don't worry, most of the people complaining here are like Geert Wilders, tell us problems but have no solutions. The Dutch is a nation with many different opinions and should largely be ignored as it shows in our politics. 28 parties and no outright winners, ignore the cucks on this forum who do nothing but complain.

The Dutch should be ignored? All my Dutch friends have been to school and make a lot of sense. But not you.

Are you trying to pretend to be an idiot? Or are you a real idiot?

I meant don't take everything being said as fact, many different opinions. Do your own research.

Different opinion is not problem because we can still help each other with the different.
Different opinion is normal between people so dont make that would be a problem because we have the same gold, thats profit.
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February 21, 2018, 01:24:22 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.
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February 21, 2018, 01:25:39 AM
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Invest in PETRO PTR, this discount in etherdelta just for this week thanks to the Venezuelan government!
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Greetings from Germany! Cool Cool
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February 21, 2018, 02:14:54 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Price will be at it's lowest before the 1st March according to the charts I am reading. Gulden will have it's $5900 moment like bitcoin before returning to about $70 million marketcap while waiting on further development news.

Gulden should get to 0.08 Euros before the trend changes upwards.IE The fear sellers will be close to being finished and the smart money buying up will be greater then the sellers.

The mental warfare on this announcement page is peaking PoF (Proof of fear) and another 20% drop will be PoD (Proof of despair)
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February 21, 2018, 04:23:38 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Price will be at it's lowest before the 1st March according to the charts I am reading. Gulden will have it's $5900 moment like bitcoin before returning to about $70 million marketcap while waiting on further development news.

Gulden should get to 0.08 Euros before the trend changes upwards.IE The fear sellers will be close to being finished and the smart money buying up will be greater then the sellers.

The mental warfare on this announcement page is peaking PoF (Proof of fear) and another 20% drop will be PoD (Proof of despair)


I purchased another 8002 coins yesterday , I was only planning to witness with a little over 10000 which I purchased at much higher price of 1900 sat.

I don't care about the price today but I need the coin to survive for the duration I witness for.
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February 21, 2018, 04:43:34 AM
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The telegram group is going to start buying under 1000 sat. I am purchasing some coins already as I can't say when the absolute bottom will be.
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February 21, 2018, 06:01:15 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Price will be at it's lowest before the 1st March according to the charts I am reading. Gulden will have it's $5900 moment like bitcoin before returning to about $70 million marketcap while waiting on further development news.

Gulden should get to 0.08 Euros before the trend changes upwards.IE The fear sellers will be close to being finished and the smart money buying up will be greater then the sellers.

The mental warfare on this announcement page is peaking PoF (Proof of fear) and another 20% drop will be PoD (Proof of despair)


I hate these guys creating fear porn in here. This clown has been collecting some fear coins and softening the blow from all the sellers.
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February 21, 2018, 07:11:49 AM
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Recently Malcolm has helped the owner of g-dash to sort a issue the raspberry pi 3s were having in preparation for witnessing, it took Malcolm less then 24 hours to solve the issue. Over 120 units have been sold already. https://guldenstore.eu/manual/ for instructions on setup. The development team is always assisting users who are bringing in real projects to gulden.

Based on the above I don't believe the update is far off.
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February 21, 2018, 08:02:03 AM
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Above Nocks was mentioned.
Roel did an amazing job by establishing Nocks.com
He and his team deserve nothing but compliments.
Hopefully they add more coins soon.
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February 21, 2018, 08:11:29 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Did anyone else check the https://dev.gulden.com/ site today? The estimated completion date of SegSig has been removed which initially stated February 2018 (at least that is what it stated for the past 1.5 months or so), looks like they remove target dates as a whole which might not be a bad thing, bummer that they do not announce this to the community more clearly.
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February 21, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Did anyone else check the https://dev.gulden.com/ site today? The estimated completion date of SegSig has been removed which initially stated February 2018 (at least that is what it stated for the past 1.5 months or so), looks like they remove target dates as a whole which might not be a bad thing, bummer that they do not announce this to the community more clearly.

Rijk commented on Slack as follows:
I do understand Everyone wants the update to be there, so do we. I have removed the indication because people see it as deadlines. They are not there. It is ready when it is ready, as simoel as that. We are building this for the first time, it is extremely complex and must be perfect. We are not going to take risks with wallets. That seems logical to me. In addition, such an update is also getting bigger, we come across things that we can do much better and more efficient. After this update we will approach the communication completely differently. E. g. no more prior announcements about projects, but an explanation of what we are doing at that moment and an announcement if something is ready. However, we will no longer announce what that is.

Basically, they will not be ready in feb, otherwise why remove the deadline. Good thing is they will change the way they communicate. So just not posting deadlines anymore but talk us through project on a regular basis. So we can see progress.
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February 21, 2018, 08:22:59 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Did anyone else check the https://dev.gulden.com/ site today? The estimated completion date of SegSig has been removed which initially stated February 2018 (at least that is what it stated for the past 1.5 months or so), looks like they remove target dates as a whole which might not be a bad thing, bummer that they do not announce this to the community more clearly.

Rijk commented on Slack as follows:
I do understand Everyone wants the update to be there, so do we. I have removed the indication because people see it as deadlines. They are not there. It is ready when it is ready, as simoel as that. We are building this for the first time, it is extremely complex and must be perfect. We are not going to take risks with wallets. That seems logical to me. In addition, such an update is also getting bigger, we come across things that we can do much better and more efficient. After this update we will approach the communication completely differently. E. g. no more prior announcements about projects, but an explanation of what we are doing at that moment and an announcement if something is ready. However, we will no longer announce what that is.

Thanks for this Jean-Luc, but do you now see why being banned from Slack is an issue for coin investors such as myself and many other people on this Forum who were once invested in gulden? Slack is being used as a main source of communication, being banned from this is a major handicap.
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February 21, 2018, 08:23:52 AM
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Above Nocks was mentioned.
Roel did an amazing job by establishing Nocks.com
He and his team deserve nothing but compliments.
Hopefully they add more coins soon.


They won't add other coins, some tried to ask them about 2 years ago. They are adding other fiat pairings and I agree Nocks.com is one of the best exchanges and payment processors in crypto. They must have inside info on the PoW2 and SegSig update because they are confident in guldens future.
PoW2 will allow Nocks to process gulden transactions safely with 1 confirmation according to the PoW2 whitepaper. This will make Nocks better then it is today and be able to compete with the likes of VISA in the real world.

Roel is a smart guy, he would not hang around supporting gulden if the developers were not doing their job.

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February 21, 2018, 08:58:48 AM
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So, testing for a few months now... and now they come with "It is extremely complex and must be perfect"?

Seems like they found fundamental, exploitable flaws in their idea.
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February 21, 2018, 09:05:48 AM
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So, testing for a few months now... and now they come with "It is extremely complex and must be perfect"?

Seems like they found fundamental, exploitable flaws in their idea.

Well I said it all along they wouldn't be ready end of Feb , at least they are clever and caring enough not to release a update with flaws. When they drop SegSig from development there is a good chance they will go with PoW2 and SegWit for a July release.
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February 21, 2018, 09:17:25 AM
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I cringe to think what the price is going to be after 1st March when development is not ready.

Did anyone else check the https://dev.gulden.com/ site today? The estimated completion date of SegSig has been removed which initially stated February 2018 (at least that is what it stated for the past 1.5 months or so), looks like they remove target dates as a whole which might not be a bad thing, bummer that they do not announce this to the community more clearly.

Rijk commented on Slack as follows:
I do understand Everyone wants the update to be there, so do we. I have removed the indication because people see it as deadlines. They are not there. It is ready when it is ready, as simoel as that. We are building this for the first time, it is extremely complex and must be perfect. We are not going to take risks with wallets. That seems logical to me. In addition, such an update is also getting bigger, we come across things that we can do much better and more efficient. After this update we will approach the communication completely differently. E. g. no more prior announcements about projects, but an explanation of what we are doing at that moment and an announcement if something is ready. However, we will no longer announce what that is.

Basically, they will not be ready in feb, otherwise why remove the deadline. Good thing is they will change the way they communicate. So just not posting deadlines anymore but talk us through project on a regular basis. So we can see progress.

Removing the deadlines was a good move on there part, traders must decide how they want to handle this news. Instead of a large sudden drop in price on the 1st March traders can discover a new fair market value based on this news.
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February 21, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
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So, testing for a few months now... and now they come with "It is extremely complex and must be perfect"?

Seems like they found fundamental, exploitable flaws in their idea.

Well I said it all along they wouldn't be ready end of Feb , at least they are clever and caring enough not to release a update with flaws. When they drop SegSig from development there is a good chance they will go with PoW2 and SegWit for a July release.

Better than all the ICOs who have raised tens of millions and have yet to even roll out a testing alpha for people. Of course every blockchain project is complex. I would say that perfect is impossible though. And do not be misled to think there is something that cannot have exploitable flaws. If there was such a thing as a flawless idea, then we would have no more problems to find solutions to.

Also looking to buy below 1,000. Looks very close to happening.

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February 21, 2018, 09:35:51 AM
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So, testing for a few months now... and now they come with "It is extremely complex and must be perfect"?

Seems like they found fundamental, exploitable flaws in their idea.

Well I said it all along they wouldn't be ready end of Feb , at least they are clever and caring enough not to release a update with flaws. When they drop SegSig from development there is a good chance they will go with PoW2 and SegWit for a July release.

Better than all the ICOs who have raised tens of millions and have yet to even roll out a testing alpha for people. Of course every blockchain project is complex. I would say that perfect is impossible though. And do not be misled to think there is something that cannot have exploitable flaws. If there was such a thing as a flawless idea, then we would have no more problems to find solutions to.

Also looking to buy below 1,000. Looks very close to happening.

I will be joining you under a 1000, this is a harsh community that has zero tolerance. I can't believe my eyes with some of the content being produced on this thread which leads me to believe that something far more sinister is at work here. A ICO like bitconnect after being proven a scam that produced nothing still had a higher marketcap then guden until recently.

I would encourage new users to take your time to look through the content on this site and not have the wool pulled over your eyes by entities with hidden agendas.

https://dev.gulden.com
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