[ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat*

[Kazadar]

Is the heatledger.log file that's present in Local/Programs/heatwallet/resources/heatledger usefull for something or is it just a log file?
It's almost 30 Gb and i really could use that extra space on the ssd

Looking through mine its just a log of the entries you see on the server, so you should be able to delete it with no problems.

[Eliphaz Fimk]

Is the heatledger.log file that's present in Local/Programs/heatwallet/resources/heatledger usefull for something or is it just a log file?
It's almost 30 Gb and i really could use that extra space on the ssd

Not useful for anything but debugging. Most likely fit for deletion.

Acutally, how will shareholders get compensated?

Shareholders's / share token holders' potential profits are formed by the following routes:

- share price appreciation
- dividends, usually yearly but we're investigating the legal prospect of quarterly
- possible buyout, in which case there would be mandatory exchange of shares to either some high predetermined cash price, or shares from the acquiring company.

Dividends are paid out from a portion of realized profits from the fiscal year, so yes they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales. The portion to be paid out in share dividends is decided by the board. So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders.

If share profits are appealing, HEAT token demand is expected to rise as shares are priced in HEAT (at least).

[StewieG]

Is the heatledger.log file that's present in Local/Programs/heatwallet/resources/heatledger usefull for something or is it just a log file?
It's almost 30 Gb and i really could use that extra space on the ssd

Not useful for anything but debugging. Most likely fit for deletion.

Acutally, how will shareholders get compensated?

Shareholders's / share token holders' potential profits are formed by the following routes:

- share price appreciation
- dividends, usually yearly but we're investigating the legal prospect of quarterly
- possible buyout, in which case there would be mandatory exchange of shares to either some high predetermined cash price, or shares from the acquiring company.

Dividends are paid out from a portion of realized profits from the fiscal year, so yes they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales. The portion to be paid out in share dividends is decided by the board. So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders.

If share profits are appealing, HEAT token demand is expected to rise as shares are priced in HEAT (at least).

As I have said, it is complete horseshit. And it is even worse....
"Dividends are paid out from a portion of realized profits from the fiscal year, so yes they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales. The portion to be paid out in share dividends is decided by the board. So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders."

"realized profits", this means the profits only if they ACTUALLY SELL cryptos, as stated short after that, this is decided by them. So if they have a burnrate of monthly 20k and they decide to monthly sell cryptos for 20k, then you get nothing. The burnrate will be way higher in my opinion. In case their cryptos goes down your shares even lose value(in reality they are worthless anyway because you can not withdraw any of the cryptos they hold). So in case their crypto value goes up, they can just expand and buy more bullshit or pay themselfes more salary in which case you will also go home empty handed. In case they decide to not sell any crypto you are fucked no matter what.
"if we founders choose to pay higher dividends", yeah right as we have seen before these samaritans are all about their community and paying them out their money and even more... Just as we have seen with the bch case where they stole their customers money or with the ico tokens or or or...   They can just let this company survive, do nothing and pay themselves a nice salary for the rest of their lives. Nobody will buy these horseshit shares so don't be fooled by the "HEAT token demand is expected to rise as shares are priced in HEAT (at least)." horseshit. Sometimes I wonder how stupid they think the people in here are? Nothing will happen. Heat is dead and these scammers should be already rotting in jail.

To sum up, as they hold btc and eth anyway it would be much wiser to just buy eth and btc as you will have actual profits without some kind of gatekeeper and without a quiet high burnrate that cuts your profits. Also you have not to worry about these fuckers to just run away with your money or fuk up everything by some other way. Oh and I bet they pay out dividens in HEAT. Look at the price, you get paid out heat for 2btc and the price is 0. Oh and these fuckers reserved 1million heat coins, I bet these will be used to pay out the dividens. Man these guys are some nasty scammers, why are they not in jail yet?

[cryptonia]

This project is alive!

The roadmap is here: https://heatnodes.org/?p=452

Oh yeah the roadmap...  

We have heard this stuff before...   Nothing but broken promises in order to keep the hopes of the losers alive to at some point get their investment back... like a junkie waiting for his dealer that tells him every time he will be there in a few minutes but never shows up...

Are you claiming that every single promise has been broken?  Every single promise?

Just to mention a few, the genesis block was supposed to be released August 2016... It was released February this year with a broken oiece of software that must have been untested...
1000tps were promised on release, for most unsurprisingly it will never happen...
There are countless more...

You mention two only, and it's unclear whether it was ever claimed to be 1000 TPS on release. You claim that is what is says, but did it say "on release"?

bump

[StewieG]

You must have invested your whole existence and now be worried about your money, a complete asskisser or totally retarded to think otherwise. Their main selling point was 1000tps, they mentioned that wherever and whenever they could. Saying oh it was not stated it will do 1000tps on release is the same as if ethereum said yeah we do smart contracts, just not on release. If they hadn't smartcontract right from the beginning but 2 years later, they would be considered a joke and dead. Yes, that is what heat is, a big fat dead joke with their two clowns Savage and de Jerk on the main stage and a bunch of fucking braindead retards thinking they are doing rocket science.
For your entertainment, here are the clowns again:

[tetra]

- possible buyout, in which case there would be mandatory exchange of shares to either some high predetermined cash price, or shares from the acquiring company.

they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales.

So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders.

About the buyout: What does this mean exactly? A buyout by someone willing to buy or a buyout by the HEAT company?

About liquidated crypto: So if I understand correctly, speculating is one of your business operations now? That was never mentioned anywhere, in fact, I remember you saying to liquidate as fast as possible to prevent loss.

About founders choosing dividends: Does this mean, shareholders have no rights? Why shares then?

[deadlock1]

Could please anybody send me 0.01 HEAT to 1463952016773068035 ? Can't do anything without this minimum amount.  

[Eliphaz Fimk]

About the buyout: What does this mean exactly? A buyout by someone willing to buy or a buyout by the HEAT company?

Corporate acquisition, meaning a large company sees the value in Heat Ledger Ltd and would want to buy out a majority of the shares. This nearly always means sizable profits for all shareholders. If it happens, it wouldn't affect the HEAT token badly as an ecosystem on it is supposedly running by then.

About liquidated crypto: So if I understand correctly, speculating is one of your business operations now?

Not speculation per se except to small extent where necessary. Holding part of funds in cryptocurrency instead of selling all after ICO obviously was a good choice in retrospect, increasing company value, increasing operating funds, and benefiting shareholders' prospects in a major way, and token holders in indirect ways

About founders choosing dividends: Does this mean, shareholders have no rights? Why shares then?

The type of shares is still undecided and depends on legal aspects, however it makes no practical difference whether they get voting rights or not - as only approx. 20% of shares are sold in this round.

Non-voting series B shares as a lighter arrangement for profit sharing is quite common.

Could please anybody send me 0.01 HEAT to 1463952016773068035 ? Can't do anything without this minimum amount.  

Done

[dance]

I have ~0.2 BTC asset 'eaten' by the Heat wallet.

Account ID 17305004389900736998

Direct API call
https://heatwallet.com:7734/api/v1/account/balance/17305004389900736998/5592059897546023466
returns 'balance' equal to 0.20870684 BTC

Heat wallet (both web and local versions) displays 0:


This balance can't be exchanged or transferred as well.

There are no open orders which could have made that balance be blocked:
https://heatwallet.com:7734/api/v1/order/account/all/17305004389900736998/0/100

[Eliphaz Fimk]

I have ~0.2 BTC asset 'eaten' by the Heat wallet.

Please press CTRL+F5 to refresh. Web wallet replicator was reset recently.

Many such situations could be resolved through the downloadable wallet and running your own node.

[dance]

Please press CTRL+F5 to refresh. Web wallet replicator was reset recently.

It's not helping.

Many such situations could be resolved through the downloadable wallet and running your own node.

As I wrote above, problem exists both in web and local wallets.
Local wallet is running connected to local server with blockchain fully downloaded.

[cryptonia]

You must have invested your whole existence and now be worried about your money, a complete asskisser or totally retarded to think otherwise.

No...here are my trades at c-cex

2017-05-19 21:47:30   Buy   2.20216   0.00027527   0.00012500
2017-05-19 17:01:56   Buy   10.08163613   0.0012602   0.00012500
2017-05-19 16:27:59   Buy   9.68072529   0.00121009   0.00012500
2017-05-19 15:28:10   Buy   13.49270772   0.00168659   0.00012500
2017-05-19 15:23:40   Buy   2061.2558492   0.25765698   0.00012500
2017-05-19 14:48:13   Buy   27.39592617   0.00342449   0.00012500
2017-05-19 14:43:17   Buy   72.86026524   0.00910753   0.00012500
2017-05-18 05:09:59   Buy   1000   0.12   0.00012000
2017-05-17 10:25:48   Buy   544.87030769   0.07083314   0.00013000
2017-05-17 10:25:48   Buy   317.31530768   0.04125099   0.00013000
2017-05-17 10:25:48   Buy   16.99368533   0.00216771   0.00012756
2017-05-17 10:25:48   Buy   123.46660013   0.01574816   0.00012755
2017-05-13 10:22:05   Buy   397.30974008   0.03575788   0.00009000
2017-05-12 23:33:29   Buy   19.02255305   0.00171203   0.00009000
2017-05-07 23:20:31   Sell   51.23764628   0.00563614   0.00011000
2017-05-07 23:11:43   Sell   515.26863636   0.05667955   0.00011000
2017-05-05 07:49:58   Buy   526.88459459   0.03898946   0.00007400
2017-05-02 02:39:36   Buy   3269.50976803   0.24194372   0.00007400
2017-04-28 01:45:25   Buy   338.94628571   0.02372624   0.00007000
2017-04-24 21:44:22   Buy   803.148125   0.06425185   0.00008000
2017-04-24 21:40:03   Buy   1421.77634025   0.11374211   0.00008000
2017-04-24 12:56:00   Buy   200.07549398   0.01600604   0.00008000
2017-04-24 12:55:40   Buy   300.97011111   0.02708731   0.00009000
2017-04-24 12:18:26   Sell   216.12536364   0.02377379   0.00011000
2017-04-24 11:04:52   Buy   4.38789903   0.00039491   0.00009000
2017-04-24 10:45:50   Buy   1551   0.13959   0.00009000
2017-04-23 19:18:07   Buy   143.64204637   0.01292778   0.00009000
2017-04-23 10:24:00   Buy   640.558   0.05765022   0.00009000
2017-04-17 08:39:19   Sell   525.14319905   0.05776575   0.00011000
2017-04-17 04:42:03   Sell   909.09090909   0.1   0.00011000
2017-04-17 01:08:49   Sell   94.79554545   0.01042751   0.00011000
2017-04-17 01:08:29   Sell   3094   0.34034   0.00011000
2017-04-12 08:05:45   Buy   3036.15932699   0.21253115   0.00007000
2017-04-12 06:29:01   Buy   1596.13491508   0.11172944   0.00007000
2017-04-08 02:01:03   Sell   4644.38661796   0.55732639   0.00012000
2017-04-08 01:57:26   Sell   32.27908333   0.00387349   0.00012000
2017-04-06 21:21:24   Sell   400.8879668   0.048307   0.00012050
2017-04-06 21:21:24   Sell   310.55638536   0.03742515   0.00012051
2017-04-06 17:09:17   Sell   57.64821402   0.00777905   0.00013494
2017-04-06 16:48:35   Buy   246.25074639   0.02733383   0.00011100
2017-04-06 07:59:54   Sell   800   0.096   0.00012000
2017-04-06 07:51:40   Sell   4081.33341667   0.48976001   0.00012000
2017-04-06 07:30:13   Sell   1245.81783333   0.14949814   0.00012000
2017-04-06 07:18:11   Sell   902.853   0.08125677   0.00009000
2017-04-06 06:59:58   Sell   5949.16877778   0.53542519   0.00009000
2017-04-05 10:48:00   Buy   300   0.022797   0.00007599
2017-04-04 22:02:25   Sell   564.75317797   0.04798143   0.00008496
2017-04-04 19:00:18   Sell   12167.59736258   0.98727885   0.00008114
2017-04-04 19:00:18   Sell   1239.89821319   0.10061774   0.00008115
2017-04-04 08:17:32   Sell   2155.586375   0.17244691   0.00008000
2017-04-04 07:34:01   Sell   2000   0.16   0.00008000
2017-04-04 04:40:26   Sell   2000   0.16   0.00008000
2017-04-03 14:20:45   Sell   1334.00209273   0.10672017   0.00008000
2017-04-03 10:24:19   Sell   3300.379375   0.26403035   0.00008000
2017-04-03 08:45:36   Sell   625   0.05   0.00008000
2017-04-03 08:19:16   Sell   13   0.00104   0.00008000
2017-04-03 07:26:38   Sell   175.052625   0.01400421   0.00008000
2017-04-03 07:08:10   Sell   1992.39182091   0.15931165   0.00007996
2017-04-03 06:04:31   Sell   2.01   0.0001608   0.00008000
2017-04-01 21:01:48   Sell   1021.23509091   0.05616793   0.00005500
2017-04-01 16:17:42   Sell   831.57067202   0.04553681   0.00005476
2017-03-31 09:01:35   Sell   2228.55580473   0.12918938   0.00005797
2017-03-31 02:17:47   Sell   1806.76   0.08943462   0.00004950
2017-03-25 04:38:08   Sell   50   0.00325   0.00006500
2017-03-25 04:31:25   Sell   9.8   0.000637   0.00006500
2017-03-23 20:56:36   Buy   264.23805672   0.00924833   0.00003500
2017-03-23 19:40:43   Buy   150   0.00525   0.00003500
2017-03-23 19:40:43   Buy   10.978   0.00038412   0.00003499
2017-03-23 19:40:43   Buy   10   0.00034   0.00003400
2017-03-23 19:40:43   Buy   4.2587069   0.00014475   0.00003399
2017-03-23 19:40:43   Buy   4.62321917   0.00014794   0.00003200
2017-03-21 12:59:52   Buy   2999   0.074975   0.00002500
2017-03-21 12:59:05   Buy   1224.0914547   0.04283096   0.00003499
2017-03-21 11:25:26   Buy   691.32090908   0.02418932   0.00003499
2017-03-21 09:50:46   Buy   51.58754608   0.00180505   0.00003499
2017-03-21 07:34:28   Buy   33   0.00115467   0.00003499
2017-03-20 22:17:02   Buy   749.10698703   0.01498214   0.00002000
2017-03-20 06:53:00   Buy   500   0.016465   0.00003293
2017-03-19 12:39:57   Buy   276.07501875   0.01104024   0.00003999
2017-03-19 11:41:40   Buy   0.00026337   0.00000001   0.00003797
2017-03-18 18:09:05   Buy   238.87787702   0.00907019   0.00003797
2017-03-18 18:09:05   Buy   414.63034303   0.01574351   0.00003797
2017-03-17 10:50:55   Buy   28.93610224   0.00072456   0.00002504
2017-03-17 04:46:41   Buy   376.73644943   0.00943348   0.00002504
2017-03-13 18:27:02   Buy   964.19320776   0.03378533   0.00003504
2017-03-08 05:17:38   Sell   14.2644   0.00071322   0.00005000
2017-03-07 22:47:36   Sell   0.5616   0.00002808   0.00005000
2017-03-06 21:22:29   Sell   3.8276   0.00019138   0.00005000
2017-03-06 08:57:22   Sell   12.537   0.00062685   0.00005000
2017-03-06 08:56:41   Sell   10   0.0005   0.00005000
2017-03-06 08:56:25   Sell   8.8094   0.00044047   0.00005000
2017-03-06 08:53:39   Sell   11.19052914   0.00055953   0.00005000
2017-03-06 08:53:39   Sell   3.4866   0.00017433   0.00005000
2017-03-06 08:53:39   Sell   12.53198721   0.00062685   0.00005002
2017-03-06 08:53:39   Sell   22.79088365   0.00114   0.00005002
2017-03-03 09:22:21   Sell   385.36483333   0.02312189   0.00006000
2017-03-03 09:22:03   Sell   10.44575904   0.00062685   0.00006001
2017-02-28 16:01:24   Sell   18.03215385   0.00099177   0.00005500
2017-02-28 16:01:24   Sell   1.96784615   0.00012791   0.00006500
2017-02-28 16:01:06   Sell   30.73450239   0.00199774   0.00006500
2017-02-28 16:01:06   Sell   9.64236271   0.00062685   0.00006501
2017-02-28 16:01:06   Sell   9.6231349   0.0006256   0.00006501
2017-02-25 08:46:06   Buy   5   0.0005535   0.00011070
2017-02-25 08:27:25   Buy   0.24500842   0.00002037   0.00008314
2017-02-25 08:26:54   Buy   1.996   0.00016595   0.00008314
2017-02-25 08:26:54   Buy   1.00425298   0.00006312   0.00006285
2017-02-25 06:38:37   Buy   149.58316459   0.00897499   0.00006000
2017-02-25 06:38:37   Buy   10.44924154   0.00062685   0.00005999
2017-02-25 06:38:37   Buy   19.65845351   0.00117931   0.00005999
2017-02-25 06:38:37   Buy   17.75992652   0.00106542   0.00005999
2017-02-24 07:46:28   Buy   101.15571189   0.00515894   0.00005100
2017-02-24 05:55:54   Sell   7.26553268   0.00037069   0.00005102
2017-02-24 05:55:54   Sell   2.73446732   0.00015272   0.00005585
2017-02-23 14:18:49   Sell   9   0.00050463   0.00005607
2017-02-23 14:18:49   Sell   11   0.00061677   0.00005607
2017-02-21 21:15:06   Buy   3396.89645161   0.21060758   0.00006200
2017-02-17 08:02:59   Buy   555.04153846   0.03441258   0.00006200

 

Their main selling point was 1000tps, they mentioned that wherever and whenever they could. Saying oh it was not stated it will do 1000tps on release is the same as if ethereum said yeah we do smart contracts, just not on release.

I would not agree with your analogy.

I would not expect a new project that was doing something different to deliver everything day one. I don't think any project does that.

They could still deliver it imho.


Your complaints, when looked at in the cold light of day, don't amount to much really.
You post above mainly consists of abuse rather than any substance.

I think if you read through what you have written you'll agree.....no?

[adhitthana]

Could please anybody send me 0.01 HEAT to 1463952016773068035 ? Can't do anything without this minimum amount.  

Done

I sent a little extra

[scaryvirus]

 

Their main selling point was 1000tps, they mentioned that wherever and whenever they could. Saying oh it was not stated it will do 1000tps on release is the same as if ethereum said yeah we do smart contracts, just not on release.

I would not agree with your analogy.

I would not expect a new project that was doing something different to deliver everything day one. I don't think any project does that.

They could still deliver it imho.


Your complaints, when looked at in the cold light of day, don't amount to much really.
You post above mainly consists of abuse rather than any substance.

I think if you read through what you have written you'll agree.....no?

once leasing is enabled, it would reduce the # of validators and speed up tx speed minimizing orphans - my guess

[AND01]

Eth Vitalik Buterin and Joseph Poon   workshop will cooperate in developing Plasma  blockchain framework technology, this technology is expected to be trading orders and contract execution frequency intelligent reach number 1 billion times per second, the commercial use of this will effectively solve the enormous complicated traffic demand, If heat can develop similar technologies, heat will be a very good future

[dgmon]

Accidentally pasted my word seed into the 'send to' address field.  I didn't actually send to it, but it did a bit of a search so I moved all my coins out of that account in case it searched in cleartext.

Have I indeed compromised my seed for that account, or can I safely continue using it?

[scaryvirus]

Eth Vitalik Buterin and Joseph Poon   workshop will cooperate in developing Plasma  blockchain framework technology, this technology is expected to be trading orders and contract execution frequency intelligent reach number 1 billion times per second, the commercial use of this will effectively solve the enormous complicated traffic demand, If heat can develop similar technologies, heat will be a very good future

nothing about plasma makes it billion times per second. child chains already exist and it's absurd to claim they allow that speed. with eth chain speed, it would require 1/3 billion child chains to achieve that in total but problem is each one being quite slow. plus ethereum is 100% centralized, so there's literally nothing you can build on it that in any way resembles decentralization w/ zero innovation or tech in eth

Similar concepts already been done for example in ARDR, fraud proofs have a ton of issues (https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/895554509778198528) and even their own core devs do not consider it a scaling solution (https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/895599682315014144) - not much to worry about since just like everything on eth it's hypothetical and relies on broken platform.

[verymuchso]

Accidentally pasted my word seed into the 'send to' address field.  I didn't actually send to it, but it did a bit of a search so I moved all my coins out of that account in case it searched in cleartext.

Have I indeed compromised my seed for that account, or can I safely continue using it?

Whatever you type in the address bar should be considered 'shared' at least with heatwallet.com, this is the same thing as typing/pasting your secret phrase in the google.com search box on their homepage. In both cases I would consider things compromised and move all to a new account.

[dance]

Whatever you type in the address bar should be considered 'shared' at least with heatwallet.com, this is the same thing as typing/pasting your secret phrase in the google.com search box on their homepage. In both cases I would consider things compromised and move all to a new account.

My 0.2 BTC are still missing in Heat wallet:

http://imgur.com/yV9UAr9

[AND01]

 My wallet did not get reward for a few days    If I remove the block chain from the blockchain folder, delete what menu in the wallet
I did not find the location