Kazadar
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August 08, 2017, 06:31:10 PM |
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Is the heatledger.log file that's present in Local/Programs/heatwallet/resources/heatledger usefull for something or is it just a log file? It's almost 30 Gb and i really could use that extra space on the ssd
Looking through mine its just a log of the entries you see on the server, so you should be able to delete it with no problems.
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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August 08, 2017, 08:20:16 PM |
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Is the heatledger.log file that's present in Local/Programs/heatwallet/resources/heatledger usefull for something or is it just a log file? It's almost 30 Gb and i really could use that extra space on the ssd
Not useful for anything but debugging. Most likely fit for deletion. Acutally, how will shareholders get compensated?
Shareholders's / share token holders' potential profits are formed by the following routes: - share price appreciation - dividends, usually yearly but we're investigating the legal prospect of quarterly - possible buyout, in which case there would be mandatory exchange of shares to either some high predetermined cash price, or shares from the acquiring company. Dividends are paid out from a portion of realized profits from the fiscal year, so yes they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales. The portion to be paid out in share dividends is decided by the board. So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders. If share profits are appealing, HEAT token demand is expected to rise as shares are priced in HEAT (at least).
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StewieG
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August 08, 2017, 09:34:02 PM |
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Is the heatledger.log file that's present in Local/Programs/heatwallet/resources/heatledger usefull for something or is it just a log file? It's almost 30 Gb and i really could use that extra space on the ssd
Not useful for anything but debugging. Most likely fit for deletion. Acutally, how will shareholders get compensated?
Shareholders's / share token holders' potential profits are formed by the following routes: - share price appreciation - dividends, usually yearly but we're investigating the legal prospect of quarterly - possible buyout, in which case there would be mandatory exchange of shares to either some high predetermined cash price, or shares from the acquiring company. Dividends are paid out from a portion of realized profits from the fiscal year, so yes they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales. The portion to be paid out in share dividends is decided by the board. So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders. If share profits are appealing, HEAT token demand is expected to rise as shares are priced in HEAT (at least). As I have said, it is complete horseshit. And it is even worse.... "Dividends are paid out from a portion of realized profits from the fiscal year, so yes they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales. The portion to be paid out in share dividends is decided by the board. So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders." "realized profits", this means the profits only if they ACTUALLY SELL cryptos, as stated short after that, this is decided by them. So if they have a burnrate of monthly 20k and they decide to monthly sell cryptos for 20k, then you get nothing. The burnrate will be way higher in my opinion. In case their cryptos goes down your shares even lose value(in reality they are worthless anyway because you can not withdraw any of the cryptos they hold). So in case their crypto value goes up, they can just expand and buy more bullshit or pay themselfes more salary in which case you will also go home empty handed. In case they decide to not sell any crypto you are fucked no matter what. "if we founders choose to pay higher dividends", yeah right as we have seen before these samaritans are all about their community and paying them out their money and even more... Just as we have seen with the bch case where they stole their customers money or with the ico tokens or or or... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) They can just let this company survive, do nothing and pay themselves a nice salary for the rest of their lives. Nobody will buy these horseshit shares so don't be fooled by the "HEAT token demand is expected to rise as shares are priced in HEAT (at least)." horseshit. Sometimes I wonder how stupid they think the people in here are? Nothing will happen. Heat is dead and these scammers should be already rotting in jail. To sum up, as they hold btc and eth anyway it would be much wiser to just buy eth and btc as you will have actual profits without some kind of gatekeeper and without a quiet high burnrate that cuts your profits. Also you have not to worry about these fuckers to just run away with your money or fuk up everything by some other way. Oh and I bet they pay out dividens in HEAT. Look at the price, you get paid out heat for 2btc and the price is 0. Oh and these fuckers reserved 1million heat coins, I bet these will be used to pay out the dividens. Man these guys are some nasty scammers, why are they not in jail yet?
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cryptonia
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August 09, 2017, 05:32:03 AM |
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Oh yeah the roadmap... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) We have heard this stuff before... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Nothing but broken promises in order to keep the hopes of the losers alive to at some point get their investment back... like a junkie waiting for his dealer that tells him every time he will be there in a few minutes but never shows up... Are you claiming that every single promise has been broken? Every single promise? Just to mention a few, the genesis block was supposed to be released August 2016... It was released February this year with a broken oiece of software that must have been untested... 1000tps were promised on release, for most unsurprisingly it will never happen... There are countless more... You mention two only, and it's unclear whether it was ever claimed to be 1000 TPS on release. You claim that is what is says, but did it say "on release"? bump
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StewieG
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August 09, 2017, 09:48:55 AM |
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You must have invested your whole existence and now be worried about your money, a complete asskisser or totally retarded to think otherwise. Their main selling point was 1000tps, they mentioned that wherever and whenever they could. Saying oh it was not stated it will do 1000tps on release is the same as if ethereum said yeah we do smart contracts, just not on release. If they hadn't smartcontract right from the beginning but 2 years later, they would be considered a joke and dead. Yes, that is what heat is, a big fat dead joke with their two clowns Savage and de Jerk on the main stage and a bunch of fucking braindead retards thinking they are doing rocket science. For your entertainment, here are the clowns again: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F1gonbc.jpg&t=665&c=cgiTnl5wRZYm8g)
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tetra
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August 09, 2017, 02:46:08 PM |
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- possible buyout, in which case there would be mandatory exchange of shares to either some high predetermined cash price, or shares from the acquiring company.
they consist of liquidated crypto profits and sales.
So if we founders choose to pay higher dividends, we decide that in the annual meeting and the same needs to be applied to other shareholders.
About the buyout: What does this mean exactly? A buyout by someone willing to buy or a buyout by the HEAT company? About liquidated crypto: So if I understand correctly, speculating is one of your business operations now? That was never mentioned anywhere, in fact, I remember you saying to liquidate as fast as possible to prevent loss. About founders choosing dividends: Does this mean, shareholders have no rights? Why shares then?
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August 09, 2017, 03:07:59 PM Last edit: August 09, 2017, 03:20:58 PM by deadlock1 |
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Could please anybody send me 0.01 HEAT to 1463952016773068035 ? Can't do anything without this minimum amount. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Ich hab heut Nichtgeburtstag! :-)
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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August 09, 2017, 04:02:21 PM |
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About the buyout: What does this mean exactly? A buyout by someone willing to buy or a buyout by the HEAT company?
Corporate acquisition, meaning a large company sees the value in Heat Ledger Ltd and would want to buy out a majority of the shares. This nearly always means sizable profits for all shareholders. If it happens, it wouldn't affect the HEAT token badly as an ecosystem on it is supposedly running by then. About liquidated crypto: So if I understand correctly, speculating is one of your business operations now? Not speculation per se except to small extent where necessary. Holding part of funds in cryptocurrency instead of selling all after ICO obviously was a good choice in retrospect, increasing company value, increasing operating funds, and benefiting shareholders' prospects in a major way, and token holders in indirect ways About founders choosing dividends: Does this mean, shareholders have no rights? Why shares then?
The type of shares is still undecided and depends on legal aspects, however it makes no practical difference whether they get voting rights or not - as only approx. 20% of shares are sold in this round. Non-voting series B shares as a lighter arrangement for profit sharing is quite common. Could please anybody send me 0.01 HEAT to 1463952016773068035 ? Can't do anything without this minimum amount. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Done
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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August 09, 2017, 05:51:20 PM |
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I have ~0.2 BTC asset 'eaten' by the Heat wallet.
Please press CTRL+F5 to refresh. Web wallet replicator was reset recently. Many such situations could be resolved through the downloadable wallet and running your own node.
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dance
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August 09, 2017, 06:12:20 PM |
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Please press CTRL+F5 to refresh. Web wallet replicator was reset recently.
It's not helping. Many such situations could be resolved through the downloadable wallet and running your own node.
As I wrote above, problem exists both in web and local wallets. Local wallet is running connected to local server with blockchain fully downloaded.
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cryptonia
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August 09, 2017, 11:58:47 PM Last edit: August 10, 2017, 01:19:24 AM by cryptonia |
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You must have invested your whole existence and now be worried about your money, a complete asskisser or totally retarded to think otherwise. No...here are my trades at c-cex 2017-05-19 21:47:30 Buy 2.20216 0.00027527 0.00012500 2017-05-19 17:01:56 Buy 10.08163613 0.0012602 0.00012500 2017-05-19 16:27:59 Buy 9.68072529 0.00121009 0.00012500 2017-05-19 15:28:10 Buy 13.49270772 0.00168659 0.00012500 2017-05-19 15:23:40 Buy 2061.2558492 0.25765698 0.00012500 2017-05-19 14:48:13 Buy 27.39592617 0.00342449 0.00012500 2017-05-19 14:43:17 Buy 72.86026524 0.00910753 0.00012500 2017-05-18 05:09:59 Buy 1000 0.12 0.00012000 2017-05-17 10:25:48 Buy 544.87030769 0.07083314 0.00013000 2017-05-17 10:25:48 Buy 317.31530768 0.04125099 0.00013000 2017-05-17 10:25:48 Buy 16.99368533 0.00216771 0.00012756 2017-05-17 10:25:48 Buy 123.46660013 0.01574816 0.00012755 2017-05-13 10:22:05 Buy 397.30974008 0.03575788 0.00009000 2017-05-12 23:33:29 Buy 19.02255305 0.00171203 0.00009000 2017-05-07 23:20:31 Sell 51.23764628 0.00563614 0.00011000 2017-05-07 23:11:43 Sell 515.26863636 0.05667955 0.00011000 2017-05-05 07:49:58 Buy 526.88459459 0.03898946 0.00007400 2017-05-02 02:39:36 Buy 3269.50976803 0.24194372 0.00007400 2017-04-28 01:45:25 Buy 338.94628571 0.02372624 0.00007000 2017-04-24 21:44:22 Buy 803.148125 0.06425185 0.00008000 2017-04-24 21:40:03 Buy 1421.77634025 0.11374211 0.00008000 2017-04-24 12:56:00 Buy 200.07549398 0.01600604 0.00008000 2017-04-24 12:55:40 Buy 300.97011111 0.02708731 0.00009000 2017-04-24 12:18:26 Sell 216.12536364 0.02377379 0.00011000 2017-04-24 11:04:52 Buy 4.38789903 0.00039491 0.00009000 2017-04-24 10:45:50 Buy 1551 0.13959 0.00009000 2017-04-23 19:18:07 Buy 143.64204637 0.01292778 0.00009000 2017-04-23 10:24:00 Buy 640.558 0.05765022 0.00009000 2017-04-17 08:39:19 Sell 525.14319905 0.05776575 0.00011000 2017-04-17 04:42:03 Sell 909.09090909 0.1 0.00011000 2017-04-17 01:08:49 Sell 94.79554545 0.01042751 0.00011000 2017-04-17 01:08:29 Sell 3094 0.34034 0.00011000 2017-04-12 08:05:45 Buy 3036.15932699 0.21253115 0.00007000 2017-04-12 06:29:01 Buy 1596.13491508 0.11172944 0.00007000 2017-04-08 02:01:03 Sell 4644.38661796 0.55732639 0.00012000 2017-04-08 01:57:26 Sell 32.27908333 0.00387349 0.00012000 2017-04-06 21:21:24 Sell 400.8879668 0.048307 0.00012050 2017-04-06 21:21:24 Sell 310.55638536 0.03742515 0.00012051 2017-04-06 17:09:17 Sell 57.64821402 0.00777905 0.00013494 2017-04-06 16:48:35 Buy 246.25074639 0.02733383 0.00011100 2017-04-06 07:59:54 Sell 800 0.096 0.00012000 2017-04-06 07:51:40 Sell 4081.33341667 0.48976001 0.00012000 2017-04-06 07:30:13 Sell 1245.81783333 0.14949814 0.00012000 2017-04-06 07:18:11 Sell 902.853 0.08125677 0.00009000 2017-04-06 06:59:58 Sell 5949.16877778 0.53542519 0.00009000 2017-04-05 10:48:00 Buy 300 0.022797 0.00007599 2017-04-04 22:02:25 Sell 564.75317797 0.04798143 0.00008496 2017-04-04 19:00:18 Sell 12167.59736258 0.98727885 0.00008114 2017-04-04 19:00:18 Sell 1239.89821319 0.10061774 0.00008115 2017-04-04 08:17:32 Sell 2155.586375 0.17244691 0.00008000 2017-04-04 07:34:01 Sell 2000 0.16 0.00008000 2017-04-04 04:40:26 Sell 2000 0.16 0.00008000 2017-04-03 14:20:45 Sell 1334.00209273 0.10672017 0.00008000 2017-04-03 10:24:19 Sell 3300.379375 0.26403035 0.00008000 2017-04-03 08:45:36 Sell 625 0.05 0.00008000 2017-04-03 08:19:16 Sell 13 0.00104 0.00008000 2017-04-03 07:26:38 Sell 175.052625 0.01400421 0.00008000 2017-04-03 07:08:10 Sell 1992.39182091 0.15931165 0.00007996 2017-04-03 06:04:31 Sell 2.01 0.0001608 0.00008000 2017-04-01 21:01:48 Sell 1021.23509091 0.05616793 0.00005500 2017-04-01 16:17:42 Sell 831.57067202 0.04553681 0.00005476 2017-03-31 09:01:35 Sell 2228.55580473 0.12918938 0.00005797 2017-03-31 02:17:47 Sell 1806.76 0.08943462 0.00004950 2017-03-25 04:38:08 Sell 50 0.00325 0.00006500 2017-03-25 04:31:25 Sell 9.8 0.000637 0.00006500 2017-03-23 20:56:36 Buy 264.23805672 0.00924833 0.00003500 2017-03-23 19:40:43 Buy 150 0.00525 0.00003500 2017-03-23 19:40:43 Buy 10.978 0.00038412 0.00003499 2017-03-23 19:40:43 Buy 10 0.00034 0.00003400 2017-03-23 19:40:43 Buy 4.2587069 0.00014475 0.00003399 2017-03-23 19:40:43 Buy 4.62321917 0.00014794 0.00003200 2017-03-21 12:59:52 Buy 2999 0.074975 0.00002500 2017-03-21 12:59:05 Buy 1224.0914547 0.04283096 0.00003499 2017-03-21 11:25:26 Buy 691.32090908 0.02418932 0.00003499 2017-03-21 09:50:46 Buy 51.58754608 0.00180505 0.00003499 2017-03-21 07:34:28 Buy 33 0.00115467 0.00003499 2017-03-20 22:17:02 Buy 749.10698703 0.01498214 0.00002000 2017-03-20 06:53:00 Buy 500 0.016465 0.00003293 2017-03-19 12:39:57 Buy 276.07501875 0.01104024 0.00003999 2017-03-19 11:41:40 Buy 0.00026337 0.00000001 0.00003797 2017-03-18 18:09:05 Buy 238.87787702 0.00907019 0.00003797 2017-03-18 18:09:05 Buy 414.63034303 0.01574351 0.00003797 2017-03-17 10:50:55 Buy 28.93610224 0.00072456 0.00002504 2017-03-17 04:46:41 Buy 376.73644943 0.00943348 0.00002504 2017-03-13 18:27:02 Buy 964.19320776 0.03378533 0.00003504 2017-03-08 05:17:38 Sell 14.2644 0.00071322 0.00005000 2017-03-07 22:47:36 Sell 0.5616 0.00002808 0.00005000 2017-03-06 21:22:29 Sell 3.8276 0.00019138 0.00005000 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0.00006285 2017-02-25 06:38:37 Buy 149.58316459 0.00897499 0.00006000 2017-02-25 06:38:37 Buy 10.44924154 0.00062685 0.00005999 2017-02-25 06:38:37 Buy 19.65845351 0.00117931 0.00005999 2017-02-25 06:38:37 Buy 17.75992652 0.00106542 0.00005999 2017-02-24 07:46:28 Buy 101.15571189 0.00515894 0.00005100 2017-02-24 05:55:54 Sell 7.26553268 0.00037069 0.00005102 2017-02-24 05:55:54 Sell 2.73446732 0.00015272 0.00005585 2017-02-23 14:18:49 Sell 9 0.00050463 0.00005607 2017-02-23 14:18:49 Sell 11 0.00061677 0.00005607 2017-02-21 21:15:06 Buy 3396.89645161 0.21060758 0.00006200 2017-02-17 08:02:59 Buy 555.04153846 0.03441258 0.00006200
Their main selling point was 1000tps, they mentioned that wherever and whenever they could. Saying oh it was not stated it will do 1000tps on release is the same as if ethereum said yeah we do smart contracts, just not on release. I would not agree with your analogy. I would not expect a new project that was doing something different to deliver everything day one. I don't think any project does that. They could still deliver it imho. Your complaints, when looked at in the cold light of day, don't amount to much really. You post above mainly consists of abuse rather than any substance. I think if you read through what you have written you'll agree.....no?
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adhitthana
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August 10, 2017, 03:36:07 AM |
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Could please anybody send me 0.01 HEAT to 1463952016773068035 ? Can't do anything without this minimum amount. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Done ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I sent a little extra
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August 11, 2017, 04:30:23 AM |
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Their main selling point was 1000tps, they mentioned that wherever and whenever they could. Saying oh it was not stated it will do 1000tps on release is the same as if ethereum said yeah we do smart contracts, just not on release. I would not agree with your analogy. I would not expect a new project that was doing something different to deliver everything day one. I don't think any project does that. They could still deliver it imho. Your complaints, when looked at in the cold light of day, don't amount to much really. You post above mainly consists of abuse rather than any substance. I think if you read through what you have written you'll agree.....no? once leasing is enabled, it would reduce the # of validators and speed up tx speed minimizing orphans - my guess
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Eth Vitalik Buterin and Joseph Poon workshop will cooperate in developing Plasma blockchain framework technology, this technology is expected to be trading orders and contract execution frequency intelligent reach number 1 billion times per second, the commercial use of this will effectively solve the enormous complicated traffic demand, If heat can develop similar technologies, heat will be a very good future
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August 11, 2017, 03:22:33 PM |
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Accidentally pasted my word seed into the 'send to' address field. I didn't actually send to it, but it did a bit of a search so I moved all my coins out of that account in case it searched in cleartext.
Have I indeed compromised my seed for that account, or can I safely continue using it?
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August 11, 2017, 11:04:29 PM |
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Eth Vitalik Buterin and Joseph Poon workshop will cooperate in developing Plasma blockchain framework technology, this technology is expected to be trading orders and contract execution frequency intelligent reach number 1 billion times per second, the commercial use of this will effectively solve the enormous complicated traffic demand, If heat can develop similar technologies, heat will be a very good future
nothing about plasma makes it billion times per second. child chains already exist and it's absurd to claim they allow that speed. with eth chain speed, it would require 1/3 billion child chains to achieve that in total but problem is each one being quite slow. plus ethereum is 100% centralized, so there's literally nothing you can build on it that in any way resembles decentralization w/ zero innovation or tech in eth Similar concepts already been done for example in ARDR, fraud proofs have a ton of issues ( https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/895554509778198528) and even their own core devs do not consider it a scaling solution ( https://twitter.com/VladZamfir/status/895599682315014144) - not much to worry about since just like everything on eth it's hypothetical and relies on broken platform.
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verymuchso
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August 13, 2017, 11:56:58 AM |
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Accidentally pasted my word seed into the 'send to' address field. I didn't actually send to it, but it did a bit of a search so I moved all my coins out of that account in case it searched in cleartext.
Have I indeed compromised my seed for that account, or can I safely continue using it?
Whatever you type in the address bar should be considered 'shared' at least with heatwallet.com, this is the same thing as typing/pasting your secret phrase in the google.com search box on their homepage. In both cases I would consider things compromised and move all to a new account.
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dance
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August 13, 2017, 03:18:06 PM |
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Whatever you type in the address bar should be considered 'shared' at least with heatwallet.com, this is the same thing as typing/pasting your secret phrase in the google.com search box on their homepage. In both cases I would consider things compromised and move all to a new account.
My 0.2 BTC are still missing in Heat wallet: http://imgur.com/yV9UAr9
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AND01
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August 14, 2017, 03:45:23 AM |
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My wallet did not get reward for a few days If I remove the block chain from the blockchain folder, delete what menu in the wallet I did not find the location
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