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True! I read a lot about the h81 having issues these days I have also heard of issues with the h81 BTC Pro. I use the MSI Gaming Z97 GAMING 5 with 7 PCIEs: Here is the motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770. Here is how to hook up 7 GPUs: https://youtu.be/EWVyutw3hZkThe MSI Gaming Z97 Gaming 5 price is double the BIOSTAR, but have to look into the BIOSTAR TB85. This price is very intriguing! |
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November 09, 2016, 06:58:04 PM |
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hmmm... interesting points about Intel potentially impacting the price of ZEC to promote higher CPU sales. Certainly it is possible but AMD & NVidia would benefit much more from pumping ZEC right? Because most Intel CPUs will only provide about 50% hash-rate vs just 1 high end GPU... and you can of course build a rig with 4-6 GPUs, so the effective impact of the CPU on a mining rig for ZEC is only about 10% of the overall hash-rate. Still, I do think Intel could benefit from pumping/buying ZEC... I doubt AMD can afford to do much but maybe NVidia can afford to impact it a bit.
Well for now I have hash on ETH and ZEC. I sell my ETH and I am now holding my ZEC Interesting to hear that from you Phil. I'm doing the exact inverse, by auto-selling my ZEC and holding my ETH. May I have the reasons of such a choice  ? |
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November 09, 2016, 08:56:31 PM |
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hmmm... interesting points about Intel potentially impacting the price of ZEC to promote higher CPU sales. Certainly it is possible but AMD & NVidia would benefit much more from pumping ZEC right? Because most Intel CPUs will only provide about 50% hash-rate vs just 1 high end GPU... and you can of course build a rig with 4-6 GPUs, so the effective impact of the CPU on a mining rig for ZEC is only about 10% of the overall hash-rate. Still, I do think Intel could benefit from pumping/buying ZEC... I doubt AMD can afford to do much but maybe NVidia can afford to impact it a bit.
Well for now I have hash on ETH and ZEC. I sell my ETH and I am now holding my ZEC Interesting to hear that from you Phil. I'm doing the exact inverse, by auto-selling my ZEC and holding my ETH. May I have the reasons of such a choice ? well look at the market caps https://coinmarketcap.com/ Coin Name Total Value ------------ Coin price ------- Coins in Circ.....................Trading Volume 1 Bitcoin Bitcoin $11,567,723,856------ $724.46 ------- 15,967,308 ---- BTC $134,017,000 2.06% 2 Ethereum Ethereum $ 916,200,716--------------$10.68 ---- 85,800,241-------- ETH $ 14,541,600 -1.94% 40 Zcash Zcash $4,530,727------------------- $257.44--------- 17,599--------- ZEC -------$4,597,940 17.28% So If I am mining Zec with the coin at $257 how much does it take to boost it to $1000 maybe buying a few thousand coins . check the cap of 4.53 mill vs the volume of 4.59 million check eth cap of 916 mill vs volume of 14.54 mill Zec will be driven up in price at least 1 or 2 more times. Now I have 160H at zec and 400mh at eth and I fully sell my eth as it is not rare. Just a guess remember I thought Hillary was a lock.  |
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November 09, 2016, 09:09:34 PM |
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hmmm... interesting points about Intel potentially impacting the price of ZEC to promote higher CPU sales. Certainly it is possible but AMD & NVidia would benefit much more from pumping ZEC right? Because most Intel CPUs will only provide about 50% hash-rate vs just 1 high end GPU... and you can of course build a rig with 4-6 GPUs, so the effective impact of the CPU on a mining rig for ZEC is only about 10% of the overall hash-rate. Still, I do think Intel could benefit from pumping/buying ZEC... I doubt AMD can afford to do much but maybe NVidia can afford to impact it a bit.
Well for now I have hash on ETH and ZEC. I sell my ETH and I am now holding my ZEC Interesting to hear that from you Phil. I'm doing the exact inverse, by auto-selling my ZEC and holding my ETH. May I have the reasons of such a choice ? well look at the market caps https://coinmarketcap.com/ Coin Name Total Value ------------ Coin price ------- Coins in Circ.....................Trading Volume 1 Bitcoin Bitcoin $11,567,723,856------ $724.46 ------- 15,967,308 ---- BTC $134,017,000 2.06% 2 Ethereum Ethereum $ 916,200,716--------------$10.68 ---- 85,800,241-------- ETH $ 14,541,600 -1.94% 40 Zcash Zcash $4,530,727------------------- $257.44--------- 17,599--------- ZEC -------$4,597,940 17.28% So If I am mining Zec with the coin at $257 how much does it take to boost it to $1000 maybe buying a few thousand coins . check the cap of 4.53 mill vs the volume of 4.59 million check eth cap of 916 mill vs volume of 14.54 mill Zec will be driven up in price at least 1 or 2 more times. Now I have 160H at zec and 400mh at eth and I fully sell my eth as it is not rare. Just a guess remember I thought Hillary was a lock. Interesting point of view, but here's how I see it : Ethereum is in a dip, so it can grow back. ZCash just profited from a last attempt to make price rise before sinking forever. It already had its recurrent pump. The marketcap of such a young coin (12 days !) isn't very revelant. The number of coins emission rate per day could be close to 2 or 3%, but surely more (I don't know th exact number, that's just the be sure that what I say is true, since going lower than 2% would be nonsense  ). However, I might be totally wrong, so don't listen to me, nor anyone. The last time I made money was with Ethereum during the Great Pump, and I was very lukcy, because even selling at a price and buying back a few hours later at a loss, I won significant amount of money that permitted me to buy my little mining rigs . |
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November 09, 2016, 10:28:25 PM |
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I have ~380H/s on ZEC - exchange it.
It can be wrong and ZEC will 0.5BTC tomorrow. So I will sell for 0.5BTC tomorrow
If it will drop to 0.2BTC - I will switch to ETH
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November 09, 2016, 11:20:26 PM |
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November 09, 2016, 11:21:14 PM
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hmmm... interesting points about Intel potentially impacting the price of ZEC to promote higher CPU sales. Certainly it is possible but AMD & NVidia would benefit much more from pumping ZEC right? Because most Intel CPUs will only provide about 50% hash-rate vs just 1 high end GPU... and you can of course build a rig with 4-6 GPUs, so the effective impact of the CPU on a mining rig for ZEC is only about 10% of the overall hash-rate. Still, I do think Intel could benefit from pumping/buying ZEC... I doubt AMD can afford to do much but maybe NVidia can afford to impact it a bit.
Well for now I have hash on ETH and ZEC. I sell my ETH and I am now holding my ZEC Interesting to hear that from you Phil. I'm doing the exact inverse, by auto-selling my ZEC and holding my ETH. May I have the reasons of such a choice ? well look at the market caps https://coinmarketcap.com/ Coin Name Total Value ------------ Coin price ------- Coins in Circ.....................Trading Volume 1 Bitcoin Bitcoin $11,567,723,856------ $724.46 ------- 15,967,308 ---- BTC $134,017,000 2.06% 2 Ethereum Ethereum $ 916,200,716--------------$10.68 ---- 85,800,241-------- ETH $ 14,541,600 -1.94% 40 Zcash Zcash $4,530,727------------------- $257.44--------- 17,599--------- ZEC -------$4,597,940 17.28% So If I am mining Zec with the coin at $257 how much does it take to boost it to $1000 maybe buying a few thousand coins . check the cap of 4.53 mill vs the volume of 4.59 million check eth cap of 916 mill vs volume of 14.54 mill Zec will be driven up in price at least 1 or 2 more times. Now I have 160H at zec and 400mh at eth and I fully sell my eth as it is not rare. Just a guess remember I thought Hillary was a lock. Interesting point of view, but here's how I see it : Ethereum is in a dip, so it can grow back. ZCash just profited from a last attempt to make price rise before sinking forever. It already had its recurrent pump. The marketcap of such a young coin (12 days !) isn't very revelant. The number of coins emission rate per day could be close to 2 or 3%, but surely more (I don't know th exact number, that's just the be sure that what I say is true, since going lower than 2% would be nonsense ). However, I might be totally wrong, so don't listen to me, nor anyone. The last time I made money was with Ethereum during the Great Pump, and I was very lukcy, because even selling at a price and buying back a few hours later at a loss, I won significant amount of money that permitted me to buy my little mining rigs . okay I am a bit tired had a long two days. but what is hash power on Zec? and what is hashpower on eth? I will look. https://etherscan.io/charts/hashrateI will get back to this but almost 8k was max it dropped to 4k and now is back to 5k I will break that down to 25mh gpus later tonight  So 40 gpu = 1 gh 40000 gpu = 1k gh 160000 gpu = 4k gh So about 160000 gpu left eth and went to Zec And then some came back. So let's say 120000 gpu are doing Zec at 200 bucks a gpu that is 24,000,000 usd and coins are worth 6,000,000 Not to mention say 20,000 CPUs more like 100,000 CPUs. So say 200 a CPU that is 4,000,000 to 20,000,000 Worth of CPUs . And Zec coins are worth only six million. So eth maybe 40 million in gear mining with a market cap of 900 million plus. So Zec maybe 28 - 44 million in gear mining with a market cap of 6 million . AMD Nvidia Intel are worth over 70 billion. They would love to see Zec coin do well. Look at how much gear is mining Zec look at how low market cap is. They will feed money into Zec buying at exchanges. I see 500 usd to 800 usd possible . |
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November 10, 2016, 02:58:48 AM |
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I see 500 usd to 800 usd possible .
Phil did you vote for Hillary? If so - 50:50 true in your prediction |
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November 10, 2016, 09:50:57 AM |
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sorry for coming back to eth mining subject, but do someone know how to fix the "GPU4 hang" crash problem ?
I often got it rebooting my 6-gpus eth claymore mining rigs.
GPU 4 is the one with the screen plugged, and it's always this one that lead to reboot
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please please please can someone help me, i cant get newegg components, can someone tell me the cheapest things to buy from here: http://www.computerlounge.co.nzkeep in mind ill pay in nzd and get a discount pm me, tip will be paid |
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November 10, 2016, 10:46:34 AM |
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True! I read a lot about the h81 having issues these days I have stopped doing 6 x GPU rigs, and standardized on 4 x GPUs and moving away from PCI-USB risers. Since Phil's recommendation on Biostar Z170 Racing, I have my 5th rig based on the mobo - very pleased with outcome and minimal issues. Overall rig cost makeup is also lower due to lower watts PSU and M2 SSD. Even the power switch is done away with because of the on-board power/reset built in into mobo. |
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November 10, 2016, 11:01:11 AM |
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True! I read a lot about the h81 having issues these days I have stopped doing 6 x GPU rigs, and standardized on 4 x GPUs and moving away from PCI-USB risers. Since Phil's recommendation on Biostar Z170 Racing, I have my 5th rig based on the mobo - very pleased with outcome and minimal issues. Overall rig cost makeup is also lower due to lower watts PSU and M2 SSD. Even the power switch is done away with because of the on-board power/reset built in into mobo. So, you have eliminated the expense of risers and power switches and gained the M.2(I love these). Are there heat issues with the gpu's so close together? Would that offset the cost of the power of the motherboard power usage? Ex. I can get 6 or 7 gpu's for 1 motherboard. 1 motherboard is xx Watts spread over the revenue of 6 gpu's rather than 4 gpu's. |
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November 10, 2016, 11:40:52 AM
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please please please can someone help me, i cant get newegg components, can someone tell me the cheapest things to buy from here: http://www.computerlounge.co.nzkeep in mind ill pay in nzd and get a discount pm me, tip will be paid pm sent. I sent info to build a four card rig since the site you gave had a limited mobo choice. a four card rig may be best for you. I can photo my build using that mobo. |
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True! I read a lot about the h81 having issues these days I have stopped doing 6 x GPU rigs, and standardized on 4 x GPUs and moving away from PCI-USB risers. Since Phil's recommendation on Biostar Z170 Racing, I have my 5th rig based on the mobo - very pleased with outcome and minimal issues. Overall rig cost makeup is also lower due to lower watts PSU and M2 SSD. Even the power switch is done away with because of the on-board power/reset built in into mobo. So, you have eliminated the expense of risers and power switches and gained the M.2(I love these). Are there heat issues with the gpu's so close together? Would that offset the cost of the power of the motherboard power usage? Ex. I can get 6 or 7 gpu's for 1 motherboard. 1 motherboard is xx Watts spread over the revenue of 6 gpu's rather than 4 gpu's. the 5 x rigs that I have based on the Biostar is so far the least problematic in my farm, and also the best performer for ZCASH. Temps so far is reduced significantly mining ZEC, vs ETH All of Biostar farm using Nanos are maxed and steady at 58-62 sols using v3.1 ... compared to 6 rig setups (based on Nanos) at most 48-52sols, and stresses the poor 1840 CPU leading to hang and unstable after running for few hours. I can also spread the power cabling/allocation better by not having too many power hungry 6xGPU rigs. My previous issues in power and trips was determined by my electrician -- too many 6xGPU rigs (1600watts PSU) clustered under one circuit (no thanks to 5x390s, 6x480s). My warehouse power has 3-Phase 63Amps, so spreading the 6xGPU rigs into 4xGPUs per rig evenly into 3 groups/phase will help ease the power distribution. The issue of 4 GPUs so closely together, is actually not a problem and with Claymore's good fan controls, all of the Biostar rigs at 75-77c. A box fan behind the rack also helps. All I did was use the same technique by Phil using those GPU plastic stubs, in between the GPUs - 3 stubs per rig. I have used wooden chopsticks too and its all ok. If you planning to have a couple of 6xGPU rigs - I think its ok, but if you have a farm.... 6xGPU rigs needs a bit more work, planning and expect power isssues. As for my case, I went for taking out all the items that will give me white hair like HDD/SSD (replaced by M2 and thumdrive EthOS), risers and big PSUs.  |
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November 10, 2016, 12:37:16 PM |
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True! I read a lot about the h81 having issues these days I have stopped doing 6 x GPU rigs, and standardized on 4 x GPUs and moving away from PCI-USB risers. Since Phil's recommendation on Biostar Z170 Racing, I have my 5th rig based on the mobo - very pleased with outcome and minimal issues. Overall rig cost makeup is also lower due to lower watts PSU and M2 SSD. Even the power switch is done away with because of the on-board power/reset built in into mobo. So, you have eliminated the expense of risers and power switches and gained the M.2(I love these). Are there heat issues with the gpu's so close together? Would that offset the cost of the power of the motherboard power usage? Ex. I can get 6 or 7 gpu's for 1 motherboard. 1 motherboard is xx Watts spread over the revenue of 6 gpu's rather than 4 gpu's. the 5 x rigs that I have based on the Biostar is so far the least problematic in my farm, and also the best performer for ZCASH. Temps so far is reduced significantly mining ZEC, vs ETH All of Biostar farm using Nanos are maxed and steady at 58-62 sols using v3.1 ... compared to 6 rig setups (based on Nanos) at most 48-52sols, and stresses the poor 1840 CPU leading to hang and unstable after running for few hours. I can also spread the power cabling/allocation better by not having too many power hungry 6xGPU rigs. My previous issues in power and trips was determined by my electrician -- too many 6xGPU rigs (1600watts PSU) clustered under one circuit (no thanks to 5x390s, 6x480s). My warehouse power has 3-Phase 63Amps, so spreading the 6xGPU rigs into 4xGPUs per rig evenly into 3 groups/phase will help ease the power distribution. The issue of 4 GPUs so closely together, is actually not a problem and with Claymore's good fan controls, all of the Biostar rigs at 75-77c. A box fan behind the rack also helps. All I did was use the same technique by Phil using those GPU plastic stubs, in between the GPUs - 3 stubs per rig. I have used wooden chopsticks too and its all ok. If you planning to have a couple of 6xGPU rigs - I think its ok, but if you have a farm.... 6xGPU rigs needs a bit more work, planning and expect power isssues. As for my case, I went for taking out all the items that will give me white hair like HDD/SSD (replaced by M2 and thumdrive EthOS), risers and big PSUs. are you using intel i5 6400 or intel i5 6500 as your cpus? they will give you close to 18h at 3 threads 22 h at 4 threads |
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