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October 13, 2016, 08:02:53 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.

But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

I'm confuse myself lol. how do we directly invest to ICNX then?
i had it in my mind that we can receive dividends by just holding ICN itself. its totally different thing when its said by you  Grin

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October 13, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
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If it's just .01 ETH, why are some people saying that they spent $5 on gas?
but if you use more ETH your transaction will come trough faster

Then it must be pretty slow is people are willing to pay $5 vs .01 Eth. [/quote]
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October 13, 2016, 08:04:13 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.

But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Because ICNs represent ownership of the platform. It's a middle to long term bet, hoping that the platform will end up handling so much money that the fees will bring multiple times the initial investment in dividends. Forever.
ICNX is "only" the platform's flagship product, along with the PERF.fund.

I don't think investment of ICNs in ICNX will be allowed. You'll be able to enter using FIAT or other cryptos.
More info will be coming when the team opens it.
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October 13, 2016, 08:04:44 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

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October 13, 2016, 08:06:22 AM
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Hey. Is ICNOMI disabled 2FA verification? I am trying to prefer my account for withdraw but I am not receiving 2FA Verfication Email?

can someone please guide me little bit?

I am not sure whether there is an email verification. You can try out the google authenticator method for 2FA verification. It should work.

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October 13, 2016, 08:09:06 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.
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October 13, 2016, 08:11:59 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.

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October 13, 2016, 08:14:16 AM
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So without ETH i am not able to send ICN?

Yes, you will need some ether usually less than 1 ether to cover the transaction cost which is refereed as "GAS". The exact gas will depend upon the size of the transaction.

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October 13, 2016, 08:17:18 AM
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So without ETH i am not able to send ICN?

Yes, you will need some ether usually less than 1 ether to cover the transaction cost which is refereed as "GAS". The exact gas will depend upon the size of the transaction.

Ethereum gas is similar to bitcoin miner fee, right? Gas=mining fee, if i understand well.
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October 13, 2016, 08:19:34 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the two funds being the main plan for profitability again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink
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October 13, 2016, 08:23:23 AM
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Whitepaper:

ICN will be an Ethereum-based token of value. Tokens are a digital asset, bearing value by themselves based on their underlying assets, properties and/or rights. ICN tokens represent ownership of the ICONOMI platform, allowing their holders to receive dividends and vote on ICONOMI related issues.

By holding ICN's you will receive dividends
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October 13, 2016, 08:23:30 AM
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....
you do not need $5 to sent your token, 0.01 eth is enough for the transaction fee
I dont think to pay $5 for the transaction fee it is too much.

LOL Cheesy... mate i would never use system that charge 5$ per transaction while you can pen less tan cents with eg. Doge,BC....

....

By holding ICN's you will receive dividends

If there is profit ^^

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October 13, 2016, 08:25:04 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the funds being the main plan again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink

Why to Polo. I am in with 50.000Euro  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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October 13, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the funds being the main plan again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink

Why to Polo. I am in with 50.000Euro  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



In that case, I'm glad to inform you what would have been your reasoning before a 50K investment...
... if you had had any. (?)
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October 13, 2016, 08:32:31 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


Read things before you post stupid comments.
Well glad to know which ICO to avoid in the future.

Nothing! Nothing! Nothing! Selling Nothing for only 1.99 ICN
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October 13, 2016, 08:33:24 AM
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Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the funds being the main plan again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink

Why to Polo. I am in with 50.000Euro  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



In that case, I'm glad to inform you what would have been your reasoning before a 50K investement...
... if you had had any. (?)

A friend that is quiet good in Krypto Trading (he bought a house alone after ETH Trading) have told me i should invest 50k.
after ico he tell x2 is nothing so i have 100k. 90k i take after x2 and 10k he told i should let in for the next year.

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October 13, 2016, 08:46:51 AM
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@Jani, and the rest of the ICONOMI team:

Congratulations on a job well done getting us to the launch pad.  Now, to use a traditional astronaut phrase, "Let's light this candle!"

Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Thx for nice words!

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks, EXTREMELY interesting data....

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 25% of all available ICN worth $3.10M total is held by 12 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 50% of all available ICN worth $6.20M total is held by 68 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 75% of all available ICN worth $9.30M total is held by 582 people

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 2926 are splitting only 10% of all available ICN worth $1.25M among themselves.


This looks to me like the majority of the ICN is being held by deep pocket people as a long term investment.  

I predict a relatively small proportion of total ICN is going to be on the exchanges.  A shortage on the exchanges should mean a higher price.

To da moon for ICN!



In that case, I'm glad to inform you what would have been your reasoning before a 50K investement...
... if you had had any. (?)

A friend that is quiet good in Krypto Trading (he bought a house alone after ETH Trading) have told me i should invest 50k.
after ico he tell x2 is nothing so i have 100k. 90k i take after x2 and 10k he told i should let in for the next year.

And your friend is probably right.
When I see those kind of strategies from one of the top holders, I'm not so reassured knowing that only 12 people hold 25% of the supply and 68 people hold 50% ...
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October 13, 2016, 08:53:26 AM
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We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

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October 13, 2016, 08:57:31 AM
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We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

The actual profit ! (if you sell, ofc)
Not the fee on that profit (ICN).
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October 13, 2016, 08:57:37 AM
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We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

We will get dividends on our ICN, if there is a profit in ICNP

Nothing! Nothing! Nothing! Selling Nothing for only 1.99 ICN
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