[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[favdesu]

Guys, I have just obtained information from people close to developers. The transfer reason not in ETH the POLONIEX and BITTREX exchanges don't want to place ICN at the exchanges. Because of specified in this message. They can't make under the law. Developers don't know how to solve this problem.

Do you know that if you've invested in the ICO, you will receive tokens (or shares if you prefer) that will enable you to receive dividends on whatever profit ICONOMI will make with their investment funds?

IF the token doesn't get listed (A BIG IF...), it absolutely doesn't matter since the co-founders will still receive their dividends.

And IF (AGAIN A BIG IF...) the token doesn't get listed, ICONOMI like any other seed & investment funds company, will arrange an "exit strategy" for the investors & co-funders only.

THIS. I honestly doubt it gets listed there, mycelium is trying to get listed since forever and they get the same reasons. they are listed on bitsquare though.

and anyways, the actual iconomi products (index, performance, and following) are perfectly fine for exchanges.

If you bought iconomi tokens you knew you get company shares with dividends, they are not meant to be traded like any other altcoin

mycelium has nothing to do with ICONOMI, the difference is like day and night.

wrong, both are company shares, yielding potential dividends.

[drnash85]

If you do not want your coins give them to me. I KNOW what to do!

[aDAPPter]

Guys, I have just obtained information from people close to developers. The transfer reason not in ETH the POLONIEX and BITTREX exchanges don't want to place ICN at the exchanges. Because of specified in this message. They can't make under the law. Developers don't know how to solve this problem.

Do you know that if you've invested in the ICO, you will receive tokens (or shares if you prefer) that will enable you to receive dividends on whatever profit ICONOMI will make with their investment funds?

IF the token doesn't get listed (A BIG IF...), it absolutely doesn't matter since the co-founders will still receive their dividends.

And IF (AGAIN A BIG IF...) the token doesn't get listed, ICONOMI like any other seed & investment funds company, will arrange an "exit strategy" for the investors & co-funders only.

THIS. I honestly doubt it gets listed there, mycelium is trying to get listed since forever and they get the same reasons. they are listed on bitsquare though.

and anyways, the actual iconomi products (index, performance, and following) are perfectly fine for exchanges.

If you bought iconomi tokens you knew you get company shares with dividends, they are not meant to be traded like any other altcoin

mycelium has nothing to do with ICONOMI, the difference is like day and night.

wrong, both are company shares, yielding potential dividends.

Show me where it's written that ICN are company shares of ICONOMI ?

[LiskQH]

Guys, I have just obtained information from people close to developers. The transfer reason not in ETH the POLONIEX and BITTREX exchanges don't want to place ICN at the exchanges. Because of specified in this message. They can't make under the law. Developers don't know how to solve this problem.

Do you know that if you've invested in the ICO, you will receive tokens (or shares if you prefer) that will enable you to receive dividends on whatever profit ICONOMI will make with their investment funds?

IF the token doesn't get listed (A BIG IF...), it absolutely doesn't matter since the co-founders will still receive their dividends.

And IF (AGAIN A BIG IF...) the token doesn't get listed, ICONOMI like any other seed & investment funds company, will arrange an "exit strategy" for the investors & co-funders only.

THIS. I honestly doubt it gets listed there, mycelium is trying to get listed since forever and they get the same reasons. they are listed on bitsquare though.

and anyways, the actual iconomi products (index, performance, and following) are perfectly fine for exchanges.

If you bought iconomi tokens you knew you get company shares with dividends, they are not meant to be traded like any other altcoin

mycelium has nothing to do with ICONOMI, the difference is like day and night.

wrong, both are company shares, yielding potential dividends.

And here also debit cards. I didn't know that in the USA such laws.
It because developers accepted dollars and euro, and promised people from them dividends, so these are securities? 
Means the exchanges of the USA them won't trade as this product for stock exchanges?

[drnash85]

Out of nowhere a noob posting and explaining something like he is an expert in this field but cannot provide source to back up his claim.

Highly agree

[bitvalak]

please keep calm down, I hope dev can do the best for this project

[LiskQH]

Show me where it's written that ICN are company shares of ICONOMI ?

"Speaking the language of the old economy and acting by the principles of the new one, ICONOMI’s transparent management will be provided by an EU legislation compliant and regulated service operator"

It is on the first page, from this follows that ICONOMI will be a legal entity. So ICN will be the share.

If it doesn't bedt to be traded at the large exchanges of the USA all of us lost the money? Those who will sell bounties, will lower the price to 1 sat. There are 200.000 dollars. I hoped for Poloniex very much.

[LiskQH]

Somebody can explain to me? I begin to worry about the investments.

[drnash85]

Show me where it's written that ICN are company shares of ICONOMI ?

"Speaking the language of the old economy and acting by the principles of the new one, ICONOMI’s transparent management will be provided by an EU legislation compliant and regulated service operator"

It is on the first page, from this follows that ICONOMI will be a legal entity. So ICN will be the share.

If it doesn't bedt to be traded at the large exchanges of the USA all of us lost the money? Those who will sell bounties, will lower the price to 1 sat. There are 200.000 dollars. I hoped for Poloniex very much.

Too bad your interpretation is incorrect

[DaniellPlasmmer]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

[favdesu]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

[DaniellPlasmmer]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

Because it ICONOMI can't get listed.

[drnash85]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

Every Proof-of-stake coin pays dividens and listed on exchanges.

[aDAPPter]

Show me where it's written that ICN are company shares of ICONOMI ?

"Speaking the language of the old economy and acting by the principles of the new one, ICONOMI’s transparent management will be provided by an EU legislation compliant and regulated service operator"

It is on the first page, from this follows that ICONOMI will be a legal entity. So ICN will be the share.

If it doesn't bedt to be traded at the large exchanges of the USA all of us lost the money? Those who will sell bounties, will lower the price to 1 sat. There are 200.000 dollars. I hoped for Poloniex very much.

Too bad your interpretation is incorrect

Exactly... using that interpretation, DAO & Augur tokens are company shares too, but how come they were listed on Poloniex & Bittrex ?

[favdesu]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

Every Proof-of-stake coin pays dividens and listed on exchanges.

Exactly.

yup, go tell that to bittrex and polo

[drnash85]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

Every Proof-of-stake coin pays dividens and listed on exchanges.

Exactly.

yup, go tell that to bittrex and polo

They got the message with Nxt/ardor

[JamesSany]

Ah to much noise now in this thread.  
This is how people changed their mined.They invest a few and shouted like they are the big whale and now worried about their investment!

[ICONOMI]

At the end i like this iconomi relase delay, we must wait eth fork then we can do a distribution in a safe blockchain.

I would like to say sorry to the devs for my previous critic about the eth situation and the iconomi delay, you was right and i would like to admit that.( i think you have inside info from eth devs i don't have !:-)

We don't have such insights.
But we do have developers working and we were hands on with ethereum network quite a lot. Therefore it was obvious for us to see the bottlenecks and we also concluded of potentional scenarious - simply because we were hands on. As they were unpredictable it was obvious for us to postpone. I'm glad others understand that now too.

[aDAPPter]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

Every Proof-of-stake coin pays dividens and listed on exchanges.

Best answer. You just won this thread.

[drnash85]

Once Ethereum switches to Proof-of-Stake, ETH holders will also be able to earn a kind of dividend in the form of ETH (and not through the act of mining), yet exchanges list ETH and I presume they will continue to do so.  Considering ICN dividends will be distributed in the form of ETH, how would this differ?  ETH isn't a currency.  It's "gas" used to power dApps on the Ethereum network.

I don't see base differences between Augur and ICONOMI because the two are based in Ethereum. Augur is listed in Poloniex, why ICONOMI can't be listed in Bittrex or NovaExchange?!

augur does not pay dividends. that's the difference

Every Proof-of-stake coin pays dividens and listed on exchanges.

Best answer. You just won this thread.

Ehem.. I would like to thank my mom......