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June 09, 2017, 09:31:07 PM
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Nope I got 1.08 for 8.65btc last round and .6659 for 10.65.....anyone know what's up?

You're meant to get 62.5 MB per BTC, which is what you got this time: 10 BTC = 0.65 GB.

You're likely mistaken about what you got last time. Nobody got over 1 GB for under 10 BTC, because the ratio was the same: 0.0625 GB per BTC.

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June 09, 2017, 09:31:29 PM
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Check Mine byteball:3SPRV5UZ34QAYFDTLYHIK57JTZZDTGA3

I got much less for more BTC this round.


You have 3 BTC addresses linked to it:
1HfgcxtYQVL16JtgBZKbpEy5rHhvDMpLij - This one you used to pay a micro.  
When you did that, you moved the rest of those coins to: 1DB6dm62EGwwWALrTLuXmvTGrcME3VsB91   leaving nothing in the verified address

1E76pqeQ151KVyUkbpRATehRBPFx3KFFsM - This is an address you signed with.  You moved those coins to: 13ig1UBgckKxWVqfQXCfqFHba7h7M988sS

13ig1UBgckKxWVqfQXCfqFHba7h7M988sS   10.65477581

That was the confirmed amount at time of drop (and still what you have in that address).

So, 10.65477581 * .0625 = 0.665923488 GByte

Checking:https://explorer.byteball.org/#3SPRV5UZ34QAYFDTLYHIK57JTZZDTGA3

Balance: 665,923,488 bytes

0.665923488 GByte = 665,923,488 bytes

You got EXACTLY what you were supposed to get.




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June 09, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
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Nope I got 1.08 for 8.65btc last round and .6659 for 10.65.....anyone know what's up?

You're meant to get 62.5 MB per BTC, which is what you got this time: 10 BTC = 0.65 GB.

You're likely mistaken about what you got last time. Nobody got over 1 GB for under 10 BTC, because the ratio was the same: 0.0625 GB per BTC.

look at the link to the explorer I posted. I did.

http://take.ms/Qjt1a
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June 09, 2017, 09:35:26 PM
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Hi,

I see in https://byteball.fr/BBdistribution.php that 111,044,458 bytes have been sent to IWRNHFQEVQWXNIKFLGNF2S36WKDR2B2W but in my wallet I haven't received anything. Maybe it's because is still syncing.

That's my other question, how long does the sync takes? Because I downloaded the app this morining and it's still at 14%.

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June 09, 2017, 09:42:42 PM
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I wish there was an actual 'you have to understand English and be able to read' agreement for Bitcointalk.

Thing is, it looks like he's right.

He only has 3 addresses linked to 3SPRV5UZ34QAYFDTLYHIK57JTZZDTGA3, and the most they have held in total at any time is less than 11 BTC, yet in unit iHbKu57Hwql00/0FeNqkDdOs+rMOVCgqJS5nzm13Uks= on 11.05.2017 he received over 1 GB. That's more than he should have received isn't it?

The extra isn't explained by an existing balance in that address because the address is only involved in 3 units: receiving the May drop, spending the May drop, and receiving the June drop.

So how about trying to understand the very real issue rather than bitching that he can't understand English.

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June 09, 2017, 09:51:31 PM
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You are still confusing too many issues, most of your posts are just wrong.

Again, be specific. If you think I'm wrong about something tell me what, and why. And I will either correct it, or explain to you why you are wrong.

Newbies, watch out.

That's FUD. Warning newbies about me when it's you that's wrong and not me.

First, exchanges can credit their customers gbytes which they got just for having gbytes just like any address in Byteball. This is not due to bitcoins linked by exchange. Every byteball address gets inflated even of you didnt link any btc to it.

I never said that exchanges don't earn the 10% or 20% on held bytes. I said that they can also claim for held BTC. You said they couldn't. I tried to correct you, but you didn't believe me and accused me of FUD.

Here's a post from tonych where he says he has no problem with exchanges claiming. He doesn't want their customers falsely claiming on behalf of exchanges because that is considered cheating:

Tony, how do you see whales and exchanges linking wallets to get free Gbytes?
Many greedy xchange operators will use Gbyte to just make more money by linking wallets of own exhanges.

We are filtering the exchange addresses when their customers (not the exchanges themselves) try to link them by doing a withdrawal.  This is considered cheating.

I am not aware of any exchanges that had covertly linked their BTC wallets (Cryptox linked openly, and distributed among its users).  If you find one, please let its customers know.

No issues with whales, the rules are the same for everybody irrespective of wealth.

Second, when posting here " bytecoin" and even getting its currencies wrong, while the topic is most active is just bad form. Rather stay quiet if you arent sure than spread such mistakes and instill confusion, FUD, its in the U, to spread uncertanity.

Yes, you mentioned that already. I apologized and fixed my mistake. Is that the only thing I got wrong? What's your problem exactly?

Enjoy your bytes and blackbytes, hodl, Byteball on IoT makes more sense than iota. Just you sit and watch.

Reminder, Byteball has only existed in livenet for less than 6 months. Speaking altcoininvestor-style, its main rocket engines havent even fired yet.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Everyone will hold or dump as they see fit. It's none of your business to tell me what to do with my coins. If I dump too early others will benefit from it. If I hold and sell at the peak it hurts others. It's all a zero sum game anyway, so why would you be trying to try me how to trade?

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June 09, 2017, 09:53:12 PM
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Hi,

I see in https://byteball.fr/BBdistribution.php that 111,044,458 bytes have been sent to IWRNHFQEVQWXNIKFLGNF2S36WKDR2B2W but in my wallet I haven't received anything. Maybe it's because is still syncing.

That's my other question, how long does the sync takes? Because I downloaded the app this morining and it's still at 14%.

Thanks


Dude,
"Maybe it's because is still syncing." Ya think?

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June 09, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
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If you had 50BTC that would be 0.065BTCx50=3.25 then you only charge them, what, 50%? So you earned $1072.50 of everyone else's money. I don't see how people aren't more annoyed at you. You are devaluing byteball. Saying you rose awareness is great, but can you prove that? From an outsider looking in, I would think if you can cheat a system that easily it's not a very worthwhile currency to be invested in. It doesn't seem like there's any way around it though. Congratulations. You found a loophole. Too bad you don't have proper morals.

This is just like those newbie accounts you see in games and rounds when someone is offering a few mBTCs for free. You know there are 100s of alts but how could you ever prove it? The only difference is you came out and said you were doing it. IMO that doesn't make it any better for the community.

You falsely accused him of fraud when he was doing nothing fraudulent. I have no problem with him offering his claiming service and cannot see how it could be interpreted as immoral. Tony wants to give the coins away to BTC holders, and this guy is helping spread the word for a fee. What's wrong with that?

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June 09, 2017, 10:00:29 PM
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Thing is, it looks like he's right.

He only has 3 addresses linked to 3SPRV5UZ34QAYFDTLYHIK57JTZZDTGA3, and the most they have held in total at any time is less than 11 BTC


No, currently he has about 10 BTC on his main address. But before he had more, after the May distribution he removed nearly 9 BTC from his main address, look at the transactions: http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1E76pqeQ151KVyUkbpRATehRBPFx3KFFsM
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June 09, 2017, 10:02:00 PM
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I like how moments after the snapshot of the BTC wallets was taken, BTC fell in price compared to ETH.

I guess a lot of us dumped our ETH temporarily. But in all honesty, with BTC's fees, I'd never do it again.

Just glad I finally have some GBYTE.
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June 09, 2017, 10:04:06 PM
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*shrugs* either way you're confirming with the byteball bot that you own those bitcoins but you don't actually own them. I don't agree with it, but hey it's the wild west here right?

If you had 50BTC that would be 0.065BTCx50=3.25 then you only charge them, what, 50%? So you earned $1072.50 of everyone else's money. I don't see how people aren't more annoyed at you. You are devaluing byteball. Saying you rose awareness is great, but can you prove that? From an outsider looking in, I would think if you can cheat a system that easily it's not a very worthwhile currency to be invested in. It doesn't seem like there's any way around it though. Congratulations. You found a loophole. Too bad you don't have proper morals.
Signing a message is the only way to prove ownership of Bitcoins. That's what is required, that's what I did.
I don't see why I have to prove to you that I made people aware of this thread. Some literally mentioned it in my thread, but as it's offtopic, I deleted those. Who knows, someone may report in here, I'm not giving a list of names.

You falsely accused him of fraud when he was doing nothing fraudulent. I have no problem with him offering his claiming service and cannot see how it could be interpreted as immoral. Tony wants to give the coins away to BTC holders, and this guy is helping spread the word for a fee. What's wrong with that?
Thanks dooglus! I appreciate you sticking up for me.

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June 09, 2017, 10:09:40 PM
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Received exactly what I was expecting. Thank you very much for the generosity.
This has certainly caught my attention and am now looking forward to the next drop already.
See you in a month.

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June 09, 2017, 10:16:21 PM
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*shrugs* either way you're confirming with the byteball bot that you own those bitcoins but you don't actually own them. I don't agree with it, but hey it's the wild west here right?

If you had 50BTC that would be 0.065BTCx50=3.25 then you only charge them, what, 50%? So you earned $1072.50 of everyone else's money. I don't see how people aren't more annoyed at you. You are devaluing byteball. Saying you rose awareness is great, but can you prove that? From an outsider looking in, I would think if you can cheat a system that easily it's not a very worthwhile currency to be invested in. It doesn't seem like there's any way around it though. Congratulations. You found a loophole. Too bad you don't have proper morals.
Signing a message is the only way to prove ownership of Bitcoins. That's what is required, that's what I did.
I don't see why I have to prove to you that I made people aware of this thread. Some literally mentioned it in my thread, but as it's offtopic, I deleted those. Who knows, someone may report in here, I'm not giving a list of names.

You falsely accused him of fraud when he was doing nothing fraudulent. I have no problem with him offering his claiming service and cannot see how it could be interpreted as immoral. Tony wants to give the coins away to BTC holders, and this guy is helping spread the word for a fee. What's wrong with that?
Thanks dooglus! I appreciate you sticking up for me.

IMO it's morally wrong. It looks like I'm the odd man out on this one but it's still my opinion. I'm not bashing you, I just don't agree with it and wouldn't do it myself.
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June 09, 2017, 10:24:48 PM
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went to open my original bb wallet.... i have not upgraded to an updated one as yet

get the message

uncaught exception type error

aarwitnessfromhub.filter is not a function


have my seeds do i need to back up the entire byteball folder before installing new version?

what is that error message?

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June 09, 2017, 10:26:16 PM
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What about this? It is very deceitful and honestly just seems like fraud to me. For those that don't think it is:

noun: fraud; wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

How is that deceitful? He's saying he will claim your byteballs for you in exchange for a (huge) fee. Where's the deception? Looks like he's very upfront about the fee.

Its a transparant business deal. To me, it looks like a stupid deal for the other party but everyone is free to make a bad trade.

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June 09, 2017, 10:36:15 PM
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What about this? It is very deceitful and honestly just seems like fraud to me. For those that don't think it is:

noun: fraud; wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

How is that deceitful? He's saying he will claim your byteballs for you in exchange for a (huge) fee. Where's the deception? Looks like he's very upfront about the fee.

Its a transparant business deal. To me, it looks like a stupid deal for the other party but everyone is free to make a bad trade.

Alright that's fair. It is 100% transparent to the person who will be signing the message.
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June 09, 2017, 10:43:14 PM
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Thing is, it looks like he's right.

He only has 3 addresses linked to 3SPRV5UZ34QAYFDTLYHIK57JTZZDTGA3, and the most they have held in total at any time is less than 11 BTC


No, currently he has about 10 BTC on his main address. But before he had more, after the May distribution he removed nearly 9 BTC from his main address, look at the transactions: http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1E76pqeQ151KVyUkbpRATehRBPFx3KFFsM

That's incorrect, i just changed one main address to another and move the full balance and then added more btc to it prior to the drop.
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June 09, 2017, 10:52:03 PM
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Still no blackbytes, when will they be released Huh

I'm still trying to get used with a wallet with two coins Huh

 
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June 09, 2017, 11:04:30 PM
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IMO it's morally wrong. It looks like I'm the odd man out on this one but it's still my opinion. I'm not bashing you, I just don't agree with it and wouldn't do it myself.

What part do you think is morally wrong?

a) telling others about byteball
b) helping them claim it by taking on some of the work (installing the wallet, talking to the transition bot)
c) charging a fee

I suspect that you're fine with the first two and just don't like to see someone charging for a service they are providing. I don't see how charging for a service is immoral either, so maybe it's actually the second one you have the problem with. I really don't know though.

Curiously enough I offered the same service to the users of my dice site yesterday, but didn't take a fee. Is that still immoral?

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June 09, 2017, 11:04:41 PM
 #9420

I can't understand why I didn't receive the amount I was expecting  Huh

I have 5 BTC in my wallet, and I got only 9,125 MB. Is this correct? I thought it was like 62 MB per BTC  Undecided
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