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December 30, 2020, 11:43:15 PM
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This player was found to have opened and played on 5 separate accounts between 22-29 December. These accounts share IPs and wallets.

We have refunded the deposit of the account mentioned and he is free to access his account and withdraw the initial deposit. Any additional accounts found will be closed and funds seized, including the deposit.

Why people do cry and whine when they get busted on the abuse that they've been doing? Its always been a prohibited thing to be done on having multi-accounts on gambling sites.
This isnt something new that people wont able to know about.Its just right that you had blocked those accounts and for that guy above, you should consider yourself lucky
at least they made out some refunds of the deposit rather than confiscating all deposit+ profits made.
People wont learn and do just directly accuse without even realizing on what they had actually done.


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December 30, 2020, 11:58:17 PM
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This player was found to have opened and played on 5 separate accounts between 22-29 December. These accounts share IPs and wallets.

We have refunded the deposit of the account mentioned and he is free to access his account and withdraw the initial deposit. Any additional accounts found will be closed and funds seized, including the deposit.

EDIT: Update, the player has received the withdrawal of his deposit.

Why you havent closed my account once I opened it yesterday but instead you have waited until I have won a bet to suspend me! Is this really how it is done on your website?

I deserve a fair warning upfront. Also I was not aware I cannot open duplicate accounts. Sorry but I wasnt aware.

Where are TocS to thick once you open account and to be read. As I said in PMs refund my winnings and you wont see me again.

And honestly by refunding my initial deposit you are showing only that you wanted to screw me out of my winnings.

Please release my winnings!!!!
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December 31, 2020, 12:10:36 AM
Last edit: December 31, 2020, 12:29:54 AM by Betcoin.AG
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Your fair warning is that we allowed you to receive your deposit back. This is not something that we have to do. As someone who is experienced in the online gambling world, you should be well aware that multiple accounts are prohibited at nearly all sites. If not, why would you originally post that you had 2 accounts when you had 5?

Like all crypto sportsbooks, we review the account once a withdrawal is requested. In this case, it was very clear that you had 4 other accounts, something you have admitted to.

It was certainly not our intention to have to seize your 12 mBTC in winnings and obviously we payout far more than that hundreds of times a day to players who abide by the simple rules that are a part of every online sportsbook. We were even happy to have paid out the winnings on your 1st account, before we were aware of this.

Having returned your deposit, we consider this matter closed. We highly recommend that you not open any additional accounts at Betcoin.ag.

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December 31, 2020, 11:15:27 AM
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This player was found to have opened and played on 5 separate accounts between 22-29 December. These accounts share IPs and wallets.

We have refunded the deposit of the account mentioned and he is free to access his account and withdraw the initial deposit. Any additional accounts found will be closed and funds seized, including the deposit.

Why people do cry and whine when they get busted on the abuse that they've been doing? Its always been a prohibited thing to be done on having multi-accounts on gambling sites.
This isnt something new that people wont able to know about.Its just right that you had blocked those accounts and for that guy above, you should consider yourself lucky
at least they made out some refunds of the deposit rather than confiscating all deposit+ profits made.
People wont learn and do just directly accuse without even realizing on what they had actually done.

This is normal they cry later when they got busted I know they know about the risk by doing this but still they do this jjust to abuse the certain bonus or referrals given by the casino so this is a fair warning to everyone to not do this act since multi account or any forms of abuse is truly been discourage to do and will result to funds confiscation or for the account to get ban on this or any casinos here.

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December 31, 2020, 11:21:27 AM
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Also I was not aware I cannot open duplicate accounts. Sorry but I wasnt aware.

Where are TocS to thick once you open account and to be read. As I said in PMs refund my winnings and you wont see me again.
Whose fault is that? The T&C are pretty clear and it's your responsibility to read the rules and understand what you're getting into. Opening multiple accounts is forbidden almost everywhere which is why you should have cleared this up with customer support before going through with it.

Luck helped you in this case since you got your deposit back. Be satisfied instead of complaining about the winnings.

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December 31, 2020, 02:24:07 PM
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College Football Playoff Predictions - Best Bitcoin Sports Betting

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We finally have arrived at the 2020-21 College Football Playoffs and Betcoin Sports has all the hottest lines and event coverage. As one could expect with the playoffs, we have 2 excellent matchups that have the potential to be instant classics. The first semifinal pits an underdog #4 Notre Dame vs the heavy favorite #1 Alabama. The 2nd semifinal is a rematch a closely contested matchup from last year in #2 Ohio State and #3 Clemson. I'll be previewing each matchup and giving my prediction on who will meet in the championship game.

Notre Dame vs Alabama Analysis and Prediction
16:00 - 01/01/20 - USA: NCAA Division I, FBS Post Season
#4 Notre Dame vs #1 Alabama
Notre Dame 10 Wins 1 Loss
Coach: Brian Kelly (252-95-2, 81-38 at Notre Dame)
Kelly has been the head coach since 2010 and has definitely steadied the ship after sub-par years before his arrival in South Bend. He has led the team to a national championship appearance in 2012 as well as a playoff berth in 2018. In each season, Notre Dame had excellent regular seasons only to crumble mightily in the big game. In 2012 they were wrecked by Alabama by a score of 42-14 and 2018 was not much better as they lost to Clemson 30-3. Kelly will be hoping 2020 will be different and they can finally get over the hump and beat a good team in a big game.
Offense:
The team is led by 3rd year starter SR QB Ian Book. He has steadily improved in each year and is one of the better QBs in the country. This season he ranked as 13th in the nation in passing yards while throwing for 15 TDs and 2 INT. He likes to spread the ball around to his teammates as the leading receiver only has 700 yards receiving for the season. The running attack is very solid and as a team they rank 20th in the nation in rushing yards a game. They are led by a very good duo of running backs in Kyren Williams and Chris Tyree. Williams is the better of the two and ranks 12th in the nation in rushing.
Defense:
The defense has been a definite strength for the team this year. They rank 14th in the nation for fewest points given up a game while facing a very good schedule in the ACC. The strength of the defense is pressuring the QB as the team ranks 14th in the nation in total sacks. Clemson exposed the team last game putting up 34 points. Notre Dame will need to have their game of the year in order to keep the game close vs Alabama.

Alabama 11 wins 0 Losses
Coach: Nick Saban (254-65-1, 163-23 at Alabama)
Nick Saban is one of if not the greatest college football head coach of all time. He has lead Alabama back to its glory days that it had reached under legendary coach Bear Bryant. Since Saban’s arrival in 2007, he has won 5 national championship games and been runner up twice. He has obviously had tremendous success in the playoffs and will have his team well prepared to making another title push.
Offense:
Alabama's offense in 2020 has been extremely explosive. They rank 2nd in the nation in points a game at 49.7 pts a game. The offense is lead by RS JR QB Mac Jones. He has impressed in his first year of the starter and ranks 2nd in the nation in passing yards while throwing for 32 TD and 4 INT. The receiving corp is led by DeVonta Smith who has 1500 yards receiving to rank 1st in the nation. The rushing attack isn't far behind and RB Najee Harris ranks 3rd in the country in rushing yards. As you can see by all the gaudy stats of all the players, the offense doesn't have many weaknesses and will be extremely hard to stop.
Defense:
As you can expect from a Nick Saban coached team, Alabama again has a good defense. There is a ton of talent on this side of the ball and it does not have many weaknesses. The previous game was a bit of a hiccup as they gave up 46 points to Florida. They will need to rebound from that poor game to stop a good Notre Dame offense.

Prediction:
Alabama has way more talent here and Notre Dame always finds a way to humiliate themselves on a big stage. Roll Tide
Alabama 45 Notre Dame 10

Ohio State vs. Clemson Analysis and Prediction
20:00 - 01/01/20 - USA: NCAA Division I, FBS Post Season
#3 Ohio State vs # 2 Clemson
Ohio State 6 Wins 0 Losses
Coach: Ryan Day (22-1)
Ryan Day has had a dream start to his head coaching career as he as won 22 of his first 23 games as a head coach. He will be able to cement himself forever in Ohio State history if he is able to continue this hot start and lead the to a national championship.
Offense:
As one can expect with an Ohio State team, the offense has been explosive. In 2020, the team ranks 7th in points per game at a gaudy 42.5 points per game. The team is extremely well balanced as the offense averages 250 yards passing and 275 yards rushing a game. The headliner on offense is 2nd year starter QB Justin Fields ( a projected top 10 pick in the 2021 NFL draft). His top 2 WRs (Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave) are very talented and both average about 100 yards a game. As stated earlier the running attack is very impressive and has a tremendous duo in Trey Sermon and Master Teague. Sermon in particular is coming off a huge big ten championship game where he rushed for 331 yards on just 29 carries.
Defense:
The defense has been average for the season as they have given up 21 points per game. The last 2 games have shown what they are capable of as they have given up just 22 points total. There is a lot of talent on this side of the ball and they will need to show up the same way they did in the last 2 games to have any chance at slowing down a potent Clemson offense.

Clemson 10 Wins 1 Loss
Coach: Dabo Swinney (140-32)
Dabo Swinney has led Clemson to heights they have never season in their history. He has won 2 national titles and led the team the playoffs for the last 6 seasons. He gets his teams extremely well prepared and they have always performed well in big games.
Offense:
A common theme during this preview has been explosive offenses. Clemson is no different as they find themselves ranked 3rd in the country with 44.9 pts per game. The team is led by projected #1 overall pick QB Trevor Lawrence. Even with missing games due to Covid, he ranked 11th in the country in passing yards and has thrown for 22 TD with just 4 INT. He likes to spread the ball around to many receiving threats as there are 7 players with at least 200 yards receiving. The top receivers are upperclassmen and will not be phased by a big stage. The rushing attack is led by SR Travis Etienne who is one of the better RBs in the nation. He is a dual threat as well as he has over 500 yards receiving.
Defense:
Another common theme here is a great defense. Clemson ranks 11th in the nation in fewest points per game allowed. The strength of the defense has been against the run as they have given up less than 100 yards per game. They will need to rely heavily on the run defense to slow down an incredible Ohio State rushing attack. Another huge strength is the pass rushing as Clemson ranked 2nd in the nation in sacks. They will need to have a huge day to slow down a top QB in Fields.

Prediction:
This should be an excellent game with extreme intensity after last years close semifinal matchup. There isn't much to separate these teams and it should be an instant classic. Ohio State 31 Clemson 27

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January 01, 2021, 03:32:04 PM
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Ryan Garcia vs Luke Campbell Prediction - Best Bitcoin Boxing Sportsbook

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There is no better way to start the new year than with some of the most electrifying entertainment the boxing scene has to offer! On January 2nd, the moment for which boxing fans have been waiting will arrive, as Ryan Garcia and Luke Campbell will take the center of the ring. Will third time be the charm for Campbell? Or will Ryan Garcia prevail and show the world he’s ready to take over the throne? These questions, and more, will be answered, but for now we’ll take a deeper dive into what’s coming.

Garcia vs Campbell Preview and Analysis
Ryan Garcia is one of the most hot and upcoming boxers in the sport today. At 22-years-old, Garcia has won nonstop and hosts an undefeated record of 20-0, 17 KOs. Showing he’s got more than just special fundamental abilities, Garcia has been able to knockout most of his opponents with ease and will look to do so in the main event. At the young age of 22, one must ask themselves is Garcia experienced enough to be at the top? With expressive wins over Francisco Fonseca and Romero Duno in his last two fights, the youngster will need to bring his most dominating form of boxing yet as he’ll be looking back as his toughest opponent to date.

Luke Campbell will try to make his third time a charm, as he gets another crack at being a world champion. Two of Luke’s the losses have been in world titles fights and he’ll look to take that experience into January’s bout. Fighting out of the United Kingdom, Luke’s experience and age will look to play an important part in the keys to victory against Garcia. Not only is Luke a phenomenal boxer, he’s boxed against some of the best talent in the division. Though he’s proven himself as one of the best in the division, Campbell has been unable to get over the hump of winning a world title bout. Come January 2nd that should all change as Campbell has all the cards to defeat Garcia. Not only does he have the experience needed, Campbell possesses tremendous abilities that may leave Garcia frustrated. The only question for Campbell is can he stay away from Garcia’s power and fight a technical game to the finish?

Everybody is on the Garcia hype train, and why shouldn’t they be? He’s got a tremendous set of skills for being only 22 years old and he’s undefeated in 20 matches. Knocking out over 75% of his opponents, it’s not question Garcia can beat you in the short game and long game. As for Campbell, he’s been to these types of fights before and with high quality champions. Campbell not only can strike with significant power as well, but he can also pick you apart with precision. He’s been here before and this time he’ll be more than ready to shut down the Ryan Garcia hype train. As much as people believe Garcia will prevail, it’s hard to see that happening here. Most people would say this match-up is a coin flip, and it’s true, but 13 years of experience and two previous title bouts will be the difference.

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January 01, 2021, 06:46:07 PM
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I made an account and deposited 0.11 btc on this site with the use of VPN. I played for a bit (not even a day) and after reading the TOS and seeing how they don’t welcome people in the US, I decided to withdraw the remaining 0.08 btc which was left in the balance. Then they decided to suspend my withdrawal and take my money. They accused me of multiaccounting with absolutely no basis as this seems to be their way to keep my money. There were other people who made betcoin accounts, same exact situation as me, in a sportsbetting discord group I’m in, and they got their deposits back.
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Most gambling sites state in the terms and conditions that a duplicate account is not allowed. just as using a VPN can lead to account closure. By signing up to a site, you agree to these terms and conditions. It's annoying that such things happen, but sites are in their right and their decision is justified. Usually you will get the deposit back.
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Without the use of a VPN I wasn't allowed to create an account.

That's right. You got a message which said your region is prohibited. You said you didn't read the terms of service until later, but this should have made it perfectly clear that we could not accept your play.

However, that is a minor detail in this case, as you know.

There were 2 other members in my discord group that also made betcoin accounts and they got their deposit back.

That's also right. A couple members of your group did receive leniency. Just like when a massive crime ring is busted, those who cooperate can receive special treatment. In this case, those members gave us access to the discord channel. They provided us with usernames and information about how you were exploiting sportsbooks by faking your location, including VPN and falsification of KYC identification. How you guys used multiple accounts to exploit lines on matches which you felt were advantageous. And how you guys did this on multiple books until nearly every sportsbook eliminated this type of wager.

But, of course, you aren't complaining about all the other books from which you were banned. You are complaining about Betcoin, because ever since we gave 1 fraudulent player his deposit back, all the other cheaters have come out of the woodwork to try and get a piece. Let it be known, that we have full time security who is proactively working to prevent fraud. If this is found, depending on the severity, deposits may be seized to pay for damages and/or prevent of future misconduct. We are unable to sort out who is who in this vast collusion, however when 100 accounts sign up the same week, use the same VPN and place the exact same bets at the exact same time, you are all at fault. Of course you are going to say that you only had the one account and offer to do KYC, even though proving your identity has no bearing on how many accounts you have opened. If you were one of the few who only had one account, you were still playing from a banned region and a conspirator to the fraud, which was committed and discussed at length in the Discord you have mentioned. This group of players, as a whole, won a considerable amount of Bitcoin from us prior to being discovered.

I read their T&C more thoroughly after I made my account, which is why I withdrew almost a day after playing.
You just randomly decided to read these and withdraw? Or was it because by this time, you knew that we were already onto what you were doing and wanted to try and sneak it by us? Since the Discord group was already blowing up about us shutting you down at this point, we are guessing it was the latter.

At a minimum, you have violated the following terms of service:
2.1 The website accepts players only from those countries and geographic regions where online gambling is allowed by law.
2.2 You are solely responsible for determining whether your accessing and/or use of the website is compliant with applicable laws in your jurisdiction and you warrant to us that gambling is not illegal in the territory where you reside. Any claim against the Company brought by you for any reason whatsoever in regard to the above mentioned will be considered void and shall not be accepted.
2.3 Players from any country where our service may be illegal are prohibited from playing real coin wagering games. If you are a citizen or resident of one of these countries or a country in which our services would be illegal and we determine you have played in violation of these terms, we reserve the right to close your account without notice moving forward.
2.5 The website does not permit accounts to be opened by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including but not limited to the United States of America (including USA dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Portugal, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France, The Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") as communicated by us from time to time.
2.8.9 Use of VPN, proxy or any software to modify the location of internet connection is prohibited and is subject to penalties up to and including seizure of account.
10.2 If the player is suspected of fraudulent actions including but not limited to: participating in any type of collusion with other players, development of strategies aimed at unfaithful winnings, arbitrage betting, use of forking services, Use of surebet or valuebet services, fraudulent actions against other online casinos or payment providers, chargeback procedures with a credit card or denial of some payments made, other types of cheating, providing incorrect information about personal data during registration or is known to have gone bankrupt in the country of his residence, the Company reserves the right to terminate the user account and suspend all payouts to the player.

Here is a small sample of countless pages from this Discord, which clearly shows that besides playing from a banned region, they knew what they were doing was fraudulent and would do whatever it took to try and cover it up.
https://imgur.com/a/R35Gucx
https://imgur.com/a/tgU7iPQ
https://imgur.com/a/idHr7mM
https://imgur.com/a/8R0PNLy
https://imgur.com/a/7tg1ms2
https://imgur.com/a/yQsyx0j
https://imgur.com/a/kM4XQiG
https://imgur.com/a/FohEr6W
https://imgur.com/a/UApUSjk
https://imgur.com/a/WJOC4Dy
https://imgur.com/a/SqgBsyV
https://imgur.com/a/MUU9hx3
https://imgur.com/a/BHHWtGa
https://imgur.com/a/MIAvytq
https://imgur.com/a/0KwJQiU
https://imgur.com/a/VGZsDEQ

One of the special things about Betcoin is that we love to have a massive selection of betting available. This means that occasionally there will be some exploitable lines available for wagering. In fact, as was discussed in detail in the Discord, Betcoin was the one of the last sites left to offer these matches, after this group had abused countless others, who also seized funds in many cases. We understand that when we offer beatable lines, players will be able to 'beat the book'. And, of course, due to the risk involved, we have much lower limits on this type of match. This does not mean that you can get together with your Discord buddies and create as many accounts as possible to take advantage.

Unfortunately, by disclosing the above, this Discord channel will never discuss sportsbook fraud again. This is why we held off for a bit on replying. It is often disadvantageous for us to give detailed analysis of internal investigations. But as always, the incredibly rare case where funds are seized is justified by a comprehensive examination. Our tens of thousands of weekly users who don't try and find ways to abuse the system are all quite happy, and receiving their winnings promptly.

We wish all our great players a happy and healthy new year and the very best of luck on your wagers!

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It is good that you explained and explained the situation in the forum. Most users will understand that the player in question is to blame for this. Terms and conditions have been violated, so it seems pretty clear to me that it will then be settled this way.

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January 01, 2021, 07:53:12 PM
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It is good that you explained and explained the situation in the forum. Most users will understand that the player in question is to blame for this. Terms and conditions have been violated, so it seems pretty clear to me that it will then be settled this way.

This is the thing that you would really be experiencing once the house caught you out on playing into their platform via means of violating their Terms and conditions which its just right or they do have the full
rights on what would they gonna do about it and since its been stated and you had just simply clicked that "Agree Terms" button (in some sites). Then you do know on what are the do's and donts of the site.
Dont proceed if you are prohibited and dont intend to make multiple accounts because this had been a common violation not only on gambling sites but in other sites as well.
They had just done their job and as a user that funds had been blocked then it is actually your own fault.

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January 01, 2021, 07:57:24 PM
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Without the use of a VPN I wasn't allowed to create an account.

That's right. You got a message which said your region is prohibited. You said you didn't read the terms of service until later, but this should have made it perfectly clear that we could not accept your play.

However, that is a minor detail in this case, as you know.

There were 2 other members in my discord group that also made betcoin accounts and they got their deposit back.

That's also right. A couple members of your group did receive leniency. Just like when a massive crime ring is busted, those who cooperate can receive special treatment. In this case, those members gave us access to the discord channel. They provided us with usernames and information about how you were exploiting sportsbooks by faking your location, including VPN and falsification of KYC identification. How you guys used multiple accounts to exploit lines on matches which you felt were advantageous. And how you guys did this on multiple books until nearly every sportsbook eliminated this type of wager.

But, of course, you aren't complaining about all the other books from which you were banned. You are complaining about Betcoin, because ever since we gave 1 fraudulent player his deposit back, all the other cheaters have come out of the woodwork to try and get a piece. Let it be known, that we have full time security who is proactively working to prevent fraud. If this is found, depending on the severity, deposits may be seized to pay for damages and/or prevent of future misconduct. We are unable to sort out who is who in this vast collusion, however when 100 accounts sign up the same week, use the same VPN and place the exact same bets at the exact same time, you are all at fault. Of course you are going to say that you only had the one account and offer to do KYC, even though proving your identity has no bearing on how many accounts you have opened. If you were one of the few who only had one account, you were still playing from a banned region and a conspirator to the fraud, which was committed and discussed at length in the Discord you have mentioned. This group of players, as a whole, won a considerable amount of Bitcoin from us prior to being discovered.

I read their T&C more thoroughly after I made my account, which is why I withdrew almost a day after playing.
You just randomly decided to read these and withdraw? Or was it because by this time, you knew that we were already onto what you were doing and wanted to try and sneak it by us? Since the Discord group was already blowing up about us shutting you down at this point, we are guessing it was the latter.

At a minimum, you have violated the following terms of service:
2.1 The website accepts players only from those countries and geographic regions where online gambling is allowed by law.
2.2 You are solely responsible for determining whether your accessing and/or use of the website is compliant with applicable laws in your jurisdiction and you warrant to us that gambling is not illegal in the territory where you reside. Any claim against the Company brought by you for any reason whatsoever in regard to the above mentioned will be considered void and shall not be accepted.
2.3 Players from any country where our service may be illegal are prohibited from playing real coin wagering games. If you are a citizen or resident of one of these countries or a country in which our services would be illegal and we determine you have played in violation of these terms, we reserve the right to close your account without notice moving forward.
2.5 The website does not permit accounts to be opened by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including but not limited to the United States of America (including USA dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Portugal, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France, The Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") as communicated by us from time to time.
2.8.9 Use of VPN, proxy or any software to modify the location of internet connection is prohibited and is subject to penalties up to and including seizure of account.
10.2 If the player is suspected of fraudulent actions including but not limited to: participating in any type of collusion with other players, development of strategies aimed at unfaithful winnings, arbitrage betting, use of forking services, Use of surebet or valuebet services, fraudulent actions against other online casinos or payment providers, chargeback procedures with a credit card or denial of some payments made, other types of cheating, providing incorrect information about personal data during registration or is known to have gone bankrupt in the country of his residence, the Company reserves the right to terminate the user account and suspend all payouts to the player.

Here is a small sample of countless pages from this Discord, which clearly shows that besides playing from a banned region, they knew what they were doing was fraudulent and would do whatever it took to try and cover it up.
https://imgur.com/a/R35Gucx
https://imgur.com/a/tgU7iPQ
https://imgur.com/a/idHr7mM
https://imgur.com/a/8R0PNLy
https://imgur.com/a/7tg1ms2
https://imgur.com/a/yQsyx0j
https://imgur.com/a/kM4XQiG
https://imgur.com/a/FohEr6W
https://imgur.com/a/UApUSjk
https://imgur.com/a/WJOC4Dy
https://imgur.com/a/SqgBsyV
https://imgur.com/a/MUU9hx3
https://imgur.com/a/BHHWtGa
https://imgur.com/a/MIAvytq
https://imgur.com/a/0KwJQiU
https://imgur.com/a/VGZsDEQ

One of the special things about Betcoin is that we love to have a massive selection of betting available. This means that occasionally there will be some exploitable lines available for wagering. In fact, as was discussed in detail in the Discord, Betcoin was the one of the last sites left to offer these matches, after this group had abused countless others, who also seized funds in many cases. We understand that when we offer beatable lines, players will be able to 'beat the book'. And, of course, due to the risk involved, we have much lower limits on this type of match. This does not mean that you can get together with your Discord buddies and create as many accounts as possible to take advantage.

Unfortunately, by disclosing the above, this Discord channel will never discuss sportsbook fraud again. This is why we held off for a bit on replying. It is often disadvantageous for us to give detailed analysis of internal investigations. But as always, the incredibly rare case where funds are seized is justified by a comprehensive examination. Our tens of thousands of weekly users who don't try and find ways to abuse the system are all quite happy, and receiving their winnings promptly.

We wish all our great players a happy and healthy new year and the very best of luck on your wagers!


First of all, stake seemingly prohibits users from the US but still allow us to play with VPN. I didn’t know you guys were so strict on it until I dived deeper into your TOS. As you can see by my transaction history I decided to leave your platform after about a day. Also I have never gotten banned on any other book as I’ve only used Stake for the past few years and they still haven’t banned me.

What’s funny is that I was the one that gave you the link to the discord group. But I gave you the link to the discord because I knew we didn’t do anything wrong except play esoccer market, which we couldn’t find elsewhere. We didn’t cheat and the reason there were multiple people making the same bets is because you guys were the only ones with the market. I was the one that told you about the situation of how betcoin were the only ones with the esoccer market and that members from my discord group were joining. Did I receive leniency? You guys offered to throw me a $5 chip compensation and told me to get lost. If you have the full transcript of the chat please show this to the public.

I have no control about what other members on the discord do but I didn’t cheat or fraud you guys. The simple fact of the matter is that you guys had an esoccer market that we couldn’t find on other books. How is that fraud? I would understand if I had tried to withdraw more than my deposit, but this is not the case! I simply played on your site for a bit and decided to withdraw. Please do the right and give me back my deposit and you will be sure to never see me again.
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January 01, 2021, 08:09:08 PM
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Without the use of a VPN I wasn't allowed to create an account.

That's right. You got a message which said your region is prohibited. You said you didn't read the terms of service until later, but this should have made it perfectly clear that we could not accept your play.

However, that is a minor detail in this case, as you know.

There were 2 other members in my discord group that also made betcoin accounts and they got their deposit back.

That's also right. A couple members of your group did receive leniency. Just like when a massive crime ring is busted, those who cooperate can receive special treatment. In this case, those members gave us access to the discord channel. They provided us with usernames and information about how you were exploiting sportsbooks by faking your location, including VPN and falsification of KYC identification. How you guys used multiple accounts to exploit lines on matches which you felt were advantageous. And how you guys did this on multiple books until nearly every sportsbook eliminated this type of wager.

But, of course, you aren't complaining about all the other books from which you were banned. You are complaining about Betcoin, because ever since we gave 1 fraudulent player his deposit back, all the other cheaters have come out of the woodwork to try and get a piece. Let it be known, that we have full time security who is proactively working to prevent fraud. If this is found, depending on the severity, deposits may be seized to pay for damages and/or prevent of future misconduct. We are unable to sort out who is who in this vast collusion, however when 100 accounts sign up the same week, use the same VPN and place the exact same bets at the exact same time, you are all at fault. Of course you are going to say that you only had the one account and offer to do KYC, even though proving your identity has no bearing on how many accounts you have opened. If you were one of the few who only had one account, you were still playing from a banned region and a conspirator to the fraud, which was committed and discussed at length in the Discord you have mentioned. This group of players, as a whole, won a considerable amount of Bitcoin from us prior to being discovered.

I read their T&C more thoroughly after I made my account, which is why I withdrew almost a day after playing.
You just randomly decided to read these and withdraw? Or was it because by this time, you knew that we were already onto what you were doing and wanted to try and sneak it by us? Since the Discord group was already blowing up about us shutting you down at this point, we are guessing it was the latter.

At a minimum, you have violated the following terms of service:
2.1 The website accepts players only from those countries and geographic regions where online gambling is allowed by law.
2.2 You are solely responsible for determining whether your accessing and/or use of the website is compliant with applicable laws in your jurisdiction and you warrant to us that gambling is not illegal in the territory where you reside. Any claim against the Company brought by you for any reason whatsoever in regard to the above mentioned will be considered void and shall not be accepted.
2.3 Players from any country where our service may be illegal are prohibited from playing real coin wagering games. If you are a citizen or resident of one of these countries or a country in which our services would be illegal and we determine you have played in violation of these terms, we reserve the right to close your account without notice moving forward.
2.5 The website does not permit accounts to be opened by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including but not limited to the United States of America (including USA dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Portugal, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France, The Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") as communicated by us from time to time.
2.8.9 Use of VPN, proxy or any software to modify the location of internet connection is prohibited and is subject to penalties up to and including seizure of account.
10.2 If the player is suspected of fraudulent actions including but not limited to: participating in any type of collusion with other players, development of strategies aimed at unfaithful winnings, arbitrage betting, use of forking services, Use of surebet or valuebet services, fraudulent actions against other online casinos or payment providers, chargeback procedures with a credit card or denial of some payments made, other types of cheating, providing incorrect information about personal data during registration or is known to have gone bankrupt in the country of his residence, the Company reserves the right to terminate the user account and suspend all payouts to the player.

Here is a small sample of countless pages from this Discord, which clearly shows that besides playing from a banned region, they knew what they were doing was fraudulent and would do whatever it took to try and cover it up.
https://imgur.com/a/R35Gucx
https://imgur.com/a/tgU7iPQ
https://imgur.com/a/idHr7mM
https://imgur.com/a/8R0PNLy
https://imgur.com/a/7tg1ms2
https://imgur.com/a/yQsyx0j
https://imgur.com/a/kM4XQiG
https://imgur.com/a/FohEr6W
https://imgur.com/a/UApUSjk
https://imgur.com/a/WJOC4Dy
https://imgur.com/a/SqgBsyV
https://imgur.com/a/MUU9hx3
https://imgur.com/a/BHHWtGa
https://imgur.com/a/MIAvytq
https://imgur.com/a/0KwJQiU
https://imgur.com/a/VGZsDEQ

One of the special things about Betcoin is that we love to have a massive selection of betting available. This means that occasionally there will be some exploitable lines available for wagering. In fact, as was discussed in detail in the Discord, Betcoin was the one of the last sites left to offer these matches, after this group had abused countless others, who also seized funds in many cases. We understand that when we offer beatable lines, players will be able to 'beat the book'. And, of course, due to the risk involved, we have much lower limits on this type of match. This does not mean that you can get together with your Discord buddies and create as many accounts as possible to take advantage.

Unfortunately, by disclosing the above, this Discord channel will never discuss sportsbook fraud again. This is why we held off for a bit on replying. It is often disadvantageous for us to give detailed analysis of internal investigations. But as always, the incredibly rare case where funds are seized is justified by a comprehensive examination. Our tens of thousands of weekly users who don't try and find ways to abuse the system are all quite happy, and receiving their winnings promptly.

We wish all our great players a happy and healthy new year and the very best of luck on your wagers!


First of all, stake seemingly prohibits users from the US but still allow us to play with VPN. I didn’t know you guys were so strict on it until I dived deeper into your TOS. As you can see by my transaction history I decided to leave your platform after about a day. Also I have never gotten banned on any other book as I’ve only used Stake for the past few years and they still haven’t banned me.

What’s funny is that I was the one that gave you the link to the discord group. But I gave you the link to the discord because I knew we didn’t do anything wrong except play esoccer market, which we couldn’t find elsewhere. We didn’t cheat and the reason there were multiple people making the same bets is because you guys were the only ones with the market. I was the one that told you about the situation of how betcoin were the only ones with the esoccer market and that members from my discord group were joining. Did I receive leniency? You guys offered to throw me a $5 chip compensation and told me to get lost. If you have the full transcript of the chat please show this to the public.

I have no control about what other members on the discord do but I didn’t cheat or fraud you guys. The simple fact of the matter is that you guys had an esoccer market that we couldn’t find on other books. How is that fraud? I would understand if I had tried to withdraw more than my deposit, but this is not the case! I simply played on your site for a bit and decided to withdraw. Please do the right and give me back my deposit and you will be sure to never see me again.


You play with a VPN yourself, right? that is asking in advance for problems on a site. you could not access it via an ip from the usa, then it is clear that you are not allowed on it either. and that is also stated in the general terms and conditions. sorry but you need to be aware of the terms or at least read the most important parts of the terms. the first thing you will look for or look at is whether a country is listed or not. a vpn is often chosen with premeditated reason. that's just asking for trouble

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January 01, 2021, 08:15:32 PM
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Without the use of a VPN I wasn't allowed to create an account.

That's right. You got a message which said your region is prohibited. You said you didn't read the terms of service until later, but this should have made it perfectly clear that we could not accept your play.

However, that is a minor detail in this case, as you know.

There were 2 other members in my discord group that also made betcoin accounts and they got their deposit back.

That's also right. A couple members of your group did receive leniency. Just like when a massive crime ring is busted, those who cooperate can receive special treatment. In this case, those members gave us access to the discord channel. They provided us with usernames and information about how you were exploiting sportsbooks by faking your location, including VPN and falsification of KYC identification. How you guys used multiple accounts to exploit lines on matches which you felt were advantageous. And how you guys did this on multiple books until nearly every sportsbook eliminated this type of wager.

But, of course, you aren't complaining about all the other books from which you were banned. You are complaining about Betcoin, because ever since we gave 1 fraudulent player his deposit back, all the other cheaters have come out of the woodwork to try and get a piece. Let it be known, that we have full time security who is proactively working to prevent fraud. If this is found, depending on the severity, deposits may be seized to pay for damages and/or prevent of future misconduct. We are unable to sort out who is who in this vast collusion, however when 100 accounts sign up the same week, use the same VPN and place the exact same bets at the exact same time, you are all at fault. Of course you are going to say that you only had the one account and offer to do KYC, even though proving your identity has no bearing on how many accounts you have opened. If you were one of the few who only had one account, you were still playing from a banned region and a conspirator to the fraud, which was committed and discussed at length in the Discord you have mentioned. This group of players, as a whole, won a considerable amount of Bitcoin from us prior to being discovered.

I read their T&C more thoroughly after I made my account, which is why I withdrew almost a day after playing.
You just randomly decided to read these and withdraw? Or was it because by this time, you knew that we were already onto what you were doing and wanted to try and sneak it by us? Since the Discord group was already blowing up about us shutting you down at this point, we are guessing it was the latter.

At a minimum, you have violated the following terms of service:
2.1 The website accepts players only from those countries and geographic regions where online gambling is allowed by law.
2.2 You are solely responsible for determining whether your accessing and/or use of the website is compliant with applicable laws in your jurisdiction and you warrant to us that gambling is not illegal in the territory where you reside. Any claim against the Company brought by you for any reason whatsoever in regard to the above mentioned will be considered void and shall not be accepted.
2.3 Players from any country where our service may be illegal are prohibited from playing real coin wagering games. If you are a citizen or resident of one of these countries or a country in which our services would be illegal and we determine you have played in violation of these terms, we reserve the right to close your account without notice moving forward.
2.5 The website does not permit accounts to be opened by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including but not limited to the United States of America (including USA dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Portugal, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France, The Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") as communicated by us from time to time.
2.8.9 Use of VPN, proxy or any software to modify the location of internet connection is prohibited and is subject to penalties up to and including seizure of account.
10.2 If the player is suspected of fraudulent actions including but not limited to: participating in any type of collusion with other players, development of strategies aimed at unfaithful winnings, arbitrage betting, use of forking services, Use of surebet or valuebet services, fraudulent actions against other online casinos or payment providers, chargeback procedures with a credit card or denial of some payments made, other types of cheating, providing incorrect information about personal data during registration or is known to have gone bankrupt in the country of his residence, the Company reserves the right to terminate the user account and suspend all payouts to the player.

Here is a small sample of countless pages from this Discord, which clearly shows that besides playing from a banned region, they knew what they were doing was fraudulent and would do whatever it took to try and cover it up.
https://imgur.com/a/R35Gucx
https://imgur.com/a/tgU7iPQ
https://imgur.com/a/idHr7mM
https://imgur.com/a/8R0PNLy
https://imgur.com/a/7tg1ms2
https://imgur.com/a/yQsyx0j
https://imgur.com/a/kM4XQiG
https://imgur.com/a/FohEr6W
https://imgur.com/a/UApUSjk
https://imgur.com/a/WJOC4Dy
https://imgur.com/a/SqgBsyV
https://imgur.com/a/MUU9hx3
https://imgur.com/a/BHHWtGa
https://imgur.com/a/MIAvytq
https://imgur.com/a/0KwJQiU
https://imgur.com/a/VGZsDEQ

One of the special things about Betcoin is that we love to have a massive selection of betting available. This means that occasionally there will be some exploitable lines available for wagering. In fact, as was discussed in detail in the Discord, Betcoin was the one of the last sites left to offer these matches, after this group had abused countless others, who also seized funds in many cases. We understand that when we offer beatable lines, players will be able to 'beat the book'. And, of course, due to the risk involved, we have much lower limits on this type of match. This does not mean that you can get together with your Discord buddies and create as many accounts as possible to take advantage.

Unfortunately, by disclosing the above, this Discord channel will never discuss sportsbook fraud again. This is why we held off for a bit on replying. It is often disadvantageous for us to give detailed analysis of internal investigations. But as always, the incredibly rare case where funds are seized is justified by a comprehensive examination. Our tens of thousands of weekly users who don't try and find ways to abuse the system are all quite happy, and receiving their winnings promptly.

We wish all our great players a happy and healthy new year and the very best of luck on your wagers!


First of all, stake seemingly prohibits users from the US but still allow us to play with VPN. I didn’t know you guys were so strict on it until I dived deeper into your TOS. As you can see by my transaction history I decided to leave your platform after about a day. Also I have never gotten banned on any other book as I’ve only used Stake for the past few years and they still haven’t banned me.

What’s funny is that I was the one that gave you the link to the discord group. But I gave you the link to the discord because I knew we didn’t do anything wrong except play esoccer market, which we couldn’t find elsewhere. We didn’t cheat and the reason there were multiple people making the same bets is because you guys were the only ones with the market. I was the one that told you about the situation of how betcoin were the only ones with the esoccer market and that members from my discord group were joining. Did I receive leniency? You guys offered to throw me a $5 chip compensation and told me to get lost. If you have the full transcript of the chat please show this to the public.

I have no control about what other members on the discord do but I didn’t cheat or fraud you guys. The simple fact of the matter is that you guys had an esoccer market that we couldn’t find on other books. How is that fraud? I would understand if I had tried to withdraw more than my deposit, but this is not the case! I simply played on your site for a bit and decided to withdraw. Please do the right and give me back my deposit and you will be sure to never see me again.


You play with a VPN yourself, right? that is asking in advance for problems on a site. you could not access it via an ip from the usa, then it is clear that you are not allowed on it either. and that is also stated in the general terms and conditions. sorry but you need to be aware of the terms or at least read the most important parts of the terms. the first thing you will look for or look at is whether a country is listed or not. a vpn is often chosen with premeditated reason. that's just asking for trouble

I’ve definitely learned my mistake. Never using another book again. I thought use of VPN would be okay because on Stake, they allow it even though they georestrict users from the US.
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January 01, 2021, 08:46:28 PM
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These guys are a group of scammers. I made an account and deposited 0.11 btc on this site with the use of VPN because they had a esports market that no other book did. I played for a bit (not even a day) and after reading the TOS and seeing how they don’t welcome people in the US, I decided to withdraw the remaining 0.08 btc which was left in the balance. Then they decided to suspend my withdrawal and take my money. They accused me of multiaccounting with absolutely no basis as this seems to be their way to keep my money. They’ve provided no proof of me cheating or doing anything fraudulent. Do the right thing and allow me to withdraw my deposit.

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Here is my response to the response below this post since they have since started to delete my posts:

Spam? No. What I’m doing is speaking the truth and speaking it loud so if there are any fellow bettors who look towards this platform in the future they are getting a warning about what to expect. You haven’t generated a speck of evidence that I was cheating your platform. Yet you think it’s fair to withhold my money? Looking though the forums it doesn’t look to be the case that I’m the only person who you guys have cheated.

Are you guys hurting that much that you won’t let me withdraw my remaining balance of 0.08 btc? I would be totally okay with you guys confiscating my money if I had legitimately doing something wrong on this platform. All I did was deposit .11 btc wager some, and attempt to withdraw the remaining .08 btc.
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January 01, 2021, 11:11:31 PM
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We left your previous posts up, because we operate transparently, but at this point what you are doing is spam and it will be deleted. We provided a detailed summary of what was done, and why. The community has spoken out in our favor, which we appreciate greatly. We have also responded to your 'Scam Accusation' thread and the community agreed with us there, as well. It is clear to everyone that you are just using the forum here to try and make a cash grab. Your time will be better spent elsewhere, because abusive players will not be rewarded or tolerated at Betcoin.ag.

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January 02, 2021, 02:50:08 PM
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Happy New Year from Betcoin!

Thanks to the BitcoinTalk Community and all of our great players. Let's all have a happy, healthy and prosperous 2021! Best of luck to all!
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