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November 05, 2016, 07:18:11 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Cannabanana and myself actually with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this suppose to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?
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November 05, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.

Holy hell, how long have you been in crypto?  I've seen this question so many damn times and has been asked to every single project, it's the most ridiculous question in crypto history cause there's no damn answer to it.

You can trust us or not, that's it.  Believe us or not, it's up to you.

We've stated our goals, now it's up to you to decide if we're legit or not.  We showed our hands.
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November 05, 2016, 07:23:08 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Stupid or not this question is further relevant in this leverage situation, as you say most of your team are Crypti guys and due to the bounty history in the above stated ICO its seems ridiculous for you guys not to invest in this project....
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November 05, 2016, 07:25:46 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.

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November 05, 2016, 07:28:27 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Stupid or not this question is further relevant in this leverage situation, as you say most of your team are Crypti guys and due to the bounty history in the above stated ICO its seems ridiculous for you guys not to invest in this project....

dude you keep putting words in my mouth.  I never said most of our guys are crypti guys.  I said we have 2 members that are crypti founders.  we are a team of 30 people and I have NEVER owned even one XCR.

and do you know who owns most of the Crypti in existence?  Max from Lisk.  

Did max offer up any real reason why he accepted all the XCR?  Nope but he sure ended up killing the coin.  Unlike us who we're at least nice enough to put a cap on exchanges.
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November 05, 2016, 07:34:35 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here
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November 05, 2016, 07:36:41 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.
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November 05, 2016, 07:50:38 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...
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November 05, 2016, 07:53:12 PM
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1day 23h and 6min until the ICO!
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November 05, 2016, 07:57:56 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...
Well known as XCR 2.0?  Laughable.

Ok guy, I can see FUD is all you want because we did explain why.  Most of the team believe lisk has a good future and we are well already involved with Lisk in the background.

Believe me or not, I'm done arguing with you about your personal opinion of the facts.
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November 05, 2016, 07:59:54 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

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November 05, 2016, 08:05:43 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

Hakuna Matata to you too
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November 05, 2016, 08:10:26 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

Hakuna Matata to you too

That is what I meant, I have to know who I'm talking and with whom I waste my time.

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merges gold’s investment
holding value
with
blockchain technology
.
...T H E   G O L D E N   I C O...
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November 05, 2016, 08:28:03 PM
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1day 23h and 6min until the ICO!



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November 05, 2016, 08:36:53 PM
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Cute, never knew F5 is a refresh button until you posted that animated GIF and I tried it to see what it does.

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November 05, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
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November 05, 2016, 09:56:57 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

Hakuna Matata to you too

That is what I meant, I have to know who I'm talking and with whom I waste my time.

I'm not fuding I'm DDing...
Not questioning 120% bonus is pure stupidity
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November 05, 2016, 10:10:24 PM
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WOW...this project is striking me.....seeing here people such as Vega and Cannabanana gives me De Ja Vu.....Crypti will never die!!..its spirit will continue on and on digesting the following project. soon enough there will be a project that will do an ICO with 200% bonus for ARK.
As a Crypti ICO participant myself I was amazed by the 30% bounty at Lisk, now its 120% for Lisk investors...making guys like Vega and Canna' with *286% on their historical XCR holding.......

Putting sarcasm aside for a minute please explain why this spoused to be a productive coin and not just another XCR inflation? what is there to prevent you guys to invest your funds in your own project and dump it all the second you have a chance?

Dunno, never owned any Crypti tbh.  Don't plan on it either as I don't think there is ongoing development.



Sure you did...even if it was just in order to invest in Lisk...but Vega is a different story i'll tell you that...

Anyway, please refer to my question

If you look in my history, even in lisk thread early on I said I never invested in Crypti.

You can argue with the truth all day long but it just makes you look like crap.



I was hinting you invested in Lisk using Crypti...It doesn't change the fact that your chosen ICO method inflate the same holders over and over...

I saw your previous posts, you can keep on been nasty with those asking hard questions, couldn't care less, but please stick with the question so we can evaluate the potential here

hard questions are one thing but when they are strewn in with obvious FUD remarks, how can anyone take you seriously?  You think I'm mean to people with tough questions but Actually I'm being mean to people who like to think they are being sly and sneak in a suckerpunch with their question.

Read again, I answered all your damn questions.

Actually you didn't.
The OP states you have Crypti founders in your team and you're giving the most outrageous bonus for using Lisk (which is well known as XCR 2.0)
you never gave any good reason for that disproportionate advantage over BTC investors apart from liking Dpos...

A word to the wise is enough. Now you must discern which means wise for you.

Hakuna Matata to you too

That is what I meant, I have to know who I'm talking and with whom I waste my time.

I'm not fuding I'm DDing...
Not questioning 120% bonus is pure stupidity

what is DDing?  Drunk Dialing?

get over yourself, nobody cares about your opinion here, especially an opinion all constructed as FUD. 
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November 05, 2016, 10:24:26 PM
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DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.

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DDing is Due Diligence, which any wise shopper will do before making a purchase.

As stated previously, the 120% bonus reflects the fact that we believe Lisk to be undervalued right now, so we want to accumulate a significant stake for very long term holding. This is very much in line with the twice market value of XCR 2 weeks prior to Lisk ANN offered for Lisk when it they had their sale. As with Crypti, the premium on Lisk reflects the additional value which has been created by the very hard work on code improvements which has gone into it. Valuation can be a subjective evaluation, so, obviously, not everyone is going to agree with it. That is up to each individual to decide when exchanging Lisk for Ark, along with what portion of their holdings.
lol, yeah that makes sense Grin
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