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Author Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax  (Read 339286 times)
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April 17, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
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Anyone knows why did market cap jump from 2.7M to 3.7M on April 11 even price was stagnant according to coinmarketcap ?(http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zclassic/). They corrected the amount in circulation or what?
Good observation.  I'm asking myself the same question.  Most probable is like you said, they corrected circulating supply upwards IMO.  But on which basis? I hope there isn't an unrecognized hack behind this, like it happened to Zcoin recently.
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April 17, 2017, 06:59:56 PM
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where i can find more information about ZEN project?
with G i find only blog article but nothing site or btc talk thread.



Great news for ZCL holders. ZClassic is real fair ICO for new ZEN coin https://zencash.io/
ZClassic will be still maintained as it is for now.

ZEN will be forked at 100K block. Now there is 70708 block http://aayanl.tech:3001/insight/blocks

Buy ZCL @ Bittrex to have both ZCL & ZEN. Remember to keep coins in private wallets and stay away from exchanges to be able import private key when ZEN will be forked.

ok, thanks for information.
i can't find the site before.

project looks good. i'm holding my zclassic before lunch.


any new for Zclassic on Poloniex? there are many coin with lower volume on polo....

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April 18, 2017, 06:36:49 PM
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how do i run the wallet on windows? i tried the eleos and it keeps crashing after 60% of downloading proving and verification keys
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April 18, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
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Now beta testing our zclassic mining pool.

http://z.elfpool.com

Only .25% fee during our beta.  Mine all Zclassic you can now before the Zencash launch Smiley

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April 18, 2017, 09:23:14 PM
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Hello, would like to know if there is wallet for windows? Can I use bash?
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April 19, 2017, 09:29:13 AM
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where i can find more information about ZEN project?
with G i find only blog article but nothing site or btc talk thread.



Great news for ZCL holders. ZClassic is real fair ICO for new ZEN coin https://zencash.io/
ZClassic will be still maintained as it is for now.

ZEN will be forked at 100K block. Now there is 70708 block http://aayanl.tech:3001/insight/blocks

Buy ZCL @ Bittrex to have both ZCL & ZEN. Remember to keep coins in private wallets and stay away from exchanges to be able import private key when ZEN will be forked.

ok, thanks for information.
i can't find the site before.

project looks good. i'm holding my zclassic before lunch.


Interesting, by my calculations ZEN distribution will take place around May 1st... if ZCL uses 2.5 min block time.  

I wouldn't wait to eat lunch that long tho  Wink
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April 19, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
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The block number doesn't matter, fork its for may 23rd , just keep coin in your wallet before the fork that it.
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April 19, 2017, 12:06:54 PM
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This is what i see yesterday via tweeter

fxminer (@fxminer) tweeted at 11:23 am on Tue, Apr 18, 2017:
$ZEN fork will happen on NYC Consensus Conference 23rd May block number is not important. @ZclassicCoin  @zencash_io  $ZCL #zclassic
(https://twitter.com/fxminer/status/854264128248086529?s=03)
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April 19, 2017, 12:12:20 PM
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This is what i see yesterday via tweeter

fxminer (@fxminer) tweeted at 11:23 am on Tue, Apr 18, 2017:
$ZEN fork will happen on NYC Consensus Conference 23rd May block number is not important. @ZclassicCoin  @zencash_io  $ZCL #zclassic
(https://twitter.com/fxminer/status/854264128248086529?s=03)

I have some zcl coins on bittrex exchange so if I should keep it on bittrex exchange or private wallet on desktop ? How many zen coins Can I have if I have got 1000zcl in my account? Thanks.
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April 19, 2017, 12:17:20 PM
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This is what i see yesterday via tweeter

fxminer (@fxminer) tweeted at 11:23 am on Tue, Apr 18, 2017:
$ZEN fork will happen on NYC Consensus Conference 23rd May block number is not important. @ZclassicCoin  @zencash_io  $ZCL #zclassic
(https://twitter.com/fxminer/status/854264128248086529?s=03)

I have some zcl coins on bittrex exchange so if I should keep it on bittrex exchange or private wallet on desktop ? How many zen coins Can I have if I have got 1000zcl in my account? Thanks.

U should put them in the wallet before the fork, after u will have 1:1 zcl/zen
General rule never let your coins in an exchange, keep it safe in YOUR wallet.
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April 19, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
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This is awfully confusing. The Zclassic twitter said the snapshot will happen on the 100,000th block.
but people say 23rd of may.

which one is it? where can I find some more info on the subject?

Confusing indeed.. 100k block is around May 1st I think, a lot earlier than May 23rd.

So ZEN is going to fork Zclassic but add back in the 20% tax? How long until someone forks out the tax again and makes ZENclassic  Grin

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April 19, 2017, 12:34:47 PM
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This is what i see yesterday via tweeter

fxminer (@fxminer) tweeted at 11:23 am on Tue, Apr 18, 2017:
$ZEN fork will happen on NYC Consensus Conference 23rd May block number is not important. @ZclassicCoin  @zencash_io  $ZCL #zclassic
(https://twitter.com/fxminer/status/854264128248086529?s=03)

I have some zcl coins on bittrex exchange so if I should keep it on bittrex exchange or private wallet on desktop ? How many zen coins Can I have if I have got 1000zcl in my account? Thanks.

U should put them in the wallet before the fork, after u will have 1:1 zcl/zen
General rule never let your coins in an exchange, keep it safe in YOUR wallet.

Yes, always on your wallet, not on an exchange. A few months ago I had around 0.50 btc on Bter.com and my account got hacked, even with extra security, and never saw them again Sad (and bter just ignored it...)
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April 19, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
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This is what i see yesterday via tweeter

fxminer (@fxminer) tweeted at 11:23 am on Tue, Apr 18, 2017:
$ZEN fork will happen on NYC Consensus Conference 23rd May block number is not important. @ZclassicCoin  @zencash_io  $ZCL #zclassic
(https://twitter.com/fxminer/status/854264128248086529?s=03)

I have some zcl coins on bittrex exchange so if I should keep it on bittrex exchange or private wallet on desktop ? How many zen coins Can I have if I have got 1000zcl in my account? Thanks.

U should put them in the wallet before the fork, after u will have 1:1 zcl/zen
General rule never let your coins in an exchange, keep it safe in YOUR wallet.

Thank you for your advice and  I will transfer all coins on the exchange to my private wallet on desktop PC. Perhaps This is a good chance for me to get more profit.
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April 19, 2017, 12:58:14 PM
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This is awfully confusing. The Zclassic twitter said the snapshot will happen on the 100,000th block.
but people say 23rd of may.

which one is it? where can I find some more info on the subject?

Confusing indeed.. 100k block is around May 1st I think, a lot earlier than May 23rd.

So ZEN is going to fork Zclassic but add back in the 20% tax? How long until someone forks out the tax again and makes ZENclassic  Grin



No where near 20% tax.

5% developer fee. 3.4% goes to people that run nodes.  That's only 8.4% not 20% and a lot of that is going back to the community holders that run nodes.

Also because this is a community, not company coin, even that 5% will be spread to a lot more people in this community.

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April 19, 2017, 02:03:21 PM
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Confusing indeed.. 100k block is around May 1st I think, a lot earlier than May 23rd.

So ZEN is going to fork Zclassic but add back in the 20% tax? How long until someone forks out the tax again and makes ZENclassic  Grin

No where near 20% tax.

5% developer fee. 3.4% goes to people that run nodes.  That's only 8.4% not 20% and a lot of that is going back to the community holders that run nodes.

Also because this is a community, not company coin, even that 5% will be spread to a lot more people in this community.
It's still fucked up, 12% total tax is still too high and the masternode concept is flawed. Not saying it isn't a good idea to buy in order to sell to a greate fool, worked with SDC.

BTW: actually creating a fork of ZEN might be a good idea, if it is to the better why not?

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April 19, 2017, 03:50:29 PM
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that is very expensive for a Fork and New Coin. Grin
But i will keep my eyes on this coin. Grin
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April 19, 2017, 04:20:55 PM
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Your math is wrong.
5% dev
3.4% nodes

8.4% total tax. Not 12.
On zencash.io it is stated that another 3.43% will go to" Core Discretionary" resulting in 88.12% left for miners.

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April 19, 2017, 11:46:43 PM
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Will the 100k block be in May? Which day? 23? The price of ZCL is rising fast, it is better to start buying...
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April 21, 2017, 03:43:09 AM
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Will the 100k block be in May? Which day? 23? The price of ZCL is rising fast, it is better to start buying...

From Zencash webpage and forum:


There is nothing happening at block 100,000.

https://blog.zencash.io
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1819977.240

Zen Launches During Consensus NYC on May 23

Zen will launch as a fork of ZClassic. Inspired by Ethereum Classic’s fork from Ethereum, all existing ZClassic holders will receive an equal amount of Zen at launch. This is a demonstration of the support of the community for both coins going forward. The Zen team is working with select Exchanges to assist in this process, and will announce the specific ways to make sure Zen coins are awarded 1-for-1 with existing ZClassic.

Zen launches on Tuesday, May 23nd at 10 pm Eastern. By that time there will be many other elements of the launch in place. This includes:

Verified exchange support
Linux wallet and roadmap for other wallets
Node specifications and configuration instructions
Mining pool applications
This is an exciting time! Bitcoin has shown everyone what is possible with cryptocurrency, Zcash developed truly secure transactions, Dash demonstrated how developers and node operators should be rewarded with funding along with the miners, Decred showed a sustainable model for governance.

Zen is a truly revolutionary platform that takes the best from other crypto-currencies and adds secure communications, secure resilient nodes, and a governance organization to enable continued improvement forever!

If you would like to be part of the Zen movement, come find out more and become part of the community at zencash.io.




Can I invest in Zen prior to launch?

Yes. Anyone who holds Zclassic prior to the launch on May 23rd will be given a 1:1 credit of Zen. This is a result of the Zen genesis originating from the Zclassic blockchain.



I am an early Zclassic investor, what does this mean to me?

Anyone who holds Zclassic prior to the launch on May 23rd, 2017 will be allocated a 1:1 amount of Zen automatically. Simply import your private keys into the new Zen wallet to redeem your tokens. We are also working with the various exchanges to ensure everyone will be credited appropriately on their platforms.



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April 21, 2017, 06:42:32 AM
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ZCL Update

New ZClassic Windows Wallet 0.1.0 - https://github.com/fxminer/zclassic-windows-wallet/releases

Features
- Annonymous and public account transfers support (zaddr, taddr)
- Anonymous blockchain messanger (zmsg)
- Native Windows ZClassic v1.0.8-1 (Full node)
- Can be used as cold wallet address generator

What is new in latest release?
Resolves DoS security issue caused by certain zk transactions
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