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July 12, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
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Getting errors on x15 with djm34 miner...

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[2014-07-12 16:06:18] GPU #3: result for nonce $9AA1ACB9 does not validate on CPU!

R U getting this just occassionly or all the time?
Is it only on GPU3 or all the GPUs?
Are your cards OCed?

It appears to be occasional, but I'm profit switching via ccManager so it hasn't switched back to x15 since it happened. I'll take it off the profit switching and test later (heading out just now).
It was only GPU3 that I noticed.
All cards are stock settings.

Thanks.

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July 12, 2014, 03:33:27 PM
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I am mining N5 with cayars nvminer 1.2. Two rigs on Windows 7 64 bit and both using 335.23 driver. Only difference is cpu and gpu manufacturer but way different results. Gpu's are factory overclocked and at these settings. Cpu's are not overclocked.

Rig A: GPU- 5 750ti's (EVGA SC)      CPU- AMD Phenom II X6 1100T   (cpu usage about 25% usage, avg)    Speed: 35,500 Kh/s or 7,100 Kh/s each card    MOBO: Gigaybyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Rig B: GPU- 5 750ti's (MSI OC)        CPU- AMD Phenom II X3 710      (cpu usage about 70% usage, avg)     Speed: 26,900 Kh/s or 5,380 Kh/s each card   MOBO: Gigaybyte GA-MA790X-UD4P

In my Rig A the gpu load stays above 90% but in Rig B gpu load fluctuates between 30-85%. This happens on all cards in each machine. Both machines have the cards on the same kind of powered usb risers. I can't get the Rig B to over 90% load for nothing. This happens now (I never noticed before but Rig B has always been slower) for any algo mining.

Could it possibly be the cpu? Just curious before I drop money on the cpu. I also know the mobo are not the best in the world but they were very cheap when I got the a while ago. I know I can swap cpu's also but would rather get you all's advice/opinions first. I would rather just go and get a new cpu if needed.

My bet would be CPU.

For kicks try this.  Use the -d on Rig B and have it use only the first device and see what happens.  If it's working correctly add the 2nd GPU, etc and see how it goes.

Report back what you find.
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July 12, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
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cbuchner1 went underground ?

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nope, I am working on the cpuminer-multi fork for BBR with cuda.
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July 12, 2014, 03:50:32 PM
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cbuchner1 went underground ?

*pulls head out of sand*

nope, I am working on the cpuminer-multi fork for BBR with cuda.

Is it going to be part of ccminer?
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July 12, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
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Getting errors on x15 with djm34 miner...

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[2014-07-12 16:06:18] GPU #3: result for nonce $9AA1ACB9 does not validate on CPU!

R U getting this just occassionly or all the time?
Is it only on GPU3 or all the GPUs?
Are your cards OCed?

It appears to be occasional, but I'm profit switching via ccManager so it hasn't switched back to x15 since it happened. I'll take it off the profit switching and test later (heading out just now).
It was only GPU3 that I noticed.
All cards are stock settings.

Thanks.
I know, I also get a few...(a few hashes don't get validated... I wonder if this could be due to different number of threads in the different kernels rather than different computation between gpu and cpu ? don't know May-be Christian has an idea on that ? )

actually it doesn't really affect the performance (unless there are really a lot), a hash which doesn't validate isn't submitted.

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July 12, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
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I am mining N5 with cayars nvminer 1.2. Two rigs on Windows 7 64 bit and both using 335.23 driver. Only difference is cpu and gpu manufacturer but way different results. Gpu's are factory overclocked and at these settings. Cpu's are not overclocked.

Rig A: GPU- 5 750ti's (EVGA SC)      CPU- AMD Phenom II X6 1100T   (cpu usage about 25% usage, avg)    Speed: 35,500 Kh/s or 7,100 Kh/s each card    MOBO: Gigaybyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
Rig B: GPU- 5 750ti's (MSI OC)        CPU- AMD Phenom II X3 710      (cpu usage about 70% usage, avg)     Speed: 26,900 Kh/s or 5,380 Kh/s each card   MOBO: Gigaybyte GA-MA790X-UD4P

In my Rig A the gpu load stays above 90% but in Rig B gpu load fluctuates between 30-85%. This happens on all cards in each machine. Both machines have the cards on the same kind of powered usb risers. I can't get the Rig B to over 90% load for nothing. This happens now (I never noticed before but Rig B has always been slower) for any algo mining.

Could it possibly be the cpu? Just curious before I drop money on the cpu. I also know the mobo are not the best in the world but they were very cheap when I got the a while ago. I know I can swap cpu's also but would rather get you all's advice/opinions first. I would rather just go and get a new cpu if needed.

My bet would be CPU.

For kicks try this.  Use the -d on Rig B and have it use only the first device and see what happens.  If it's working correctly add the 2nd GPU, etc and see how it goes.

Report back what you find.

Ran the cards one at a time adding another card until I got them all going.

First card by itself got about 7,800 kh/s. Added card 2 about 5 minutes later and it ran at 7,700 kh/s and no problems. Added third card and it got 7,700 kh/s and the cpu usage still under 35%. Added fourth card and it ran at 7,700 kh/s each and cpu usage under 45%. So everything running fine up till now. Added last card and it starts off at 6,800 kh/s and cpu uasge jumps to about 70-75%. Now the first four cards kh/s is dropping. Right now they are all about 6,500 kh/s and still falling.

So time for a new cpu?

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July 12, 2014, 04:11:57 PM
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I'd be interested in opinions on auto profit switching.

If x11 is deemed the most profitable coin, how long should we mine it before checking which coin is best again?

I've set it to check every 60 seconds and switch if necessary. It's been running for 1 hour 10 minutes, and has switched algo 16 times. Too much? Or, maybe it's good to mix the coins so much?

I'm not sure if I should leave a larger interval between scanning for most profitable algo?

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July 12, 2014, 04:18:50 PM
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I want buy a new rig,
what is the best nvidia card for nist5 and new x11,x12...
Thanks

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July 12, 2014, 04:22:27 PM
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July 12, 2014, 04:27:14 PM
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hey guys

quick question

I'm mining with ccminer and was wondering is it possible to set the worker to close after a time limit has been set?  

Here's what I used when I wanted to restart miners. It's not the best but it does work:

First you need two batch files, one is your mining .bat in a loop which looks something like this:

jpc_solo.bat:
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echo off
title <title of the miner window>
:start
ccminer.exe -a jackpot -o <IP>:<port> -u <user> -p <password> -q
goto start

Then, you need a control batch which will shut down ccminer periodically:

_control.bat:
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title <title of the control window>
:start
timeout /t xxx
taskkill -t -f /im ccminer.exe
goto start

xxx is the time in seconds between restarts.

You can also add multiple pools to your first bat to achieve a round-robin schedule which skips pools which doesn't work if you add the "-r 0" command to ccminer which equals how many times ccminer will try to reconnect to a pool before exiting. It is also recommended to use lower than default "-T" and "-R" values. "-T" stands for maximum network timeout in seconds which is 270 by default. "-R" stands for retry pause which is 30 seconds by default and we don't want to waste that much time connecting to a pool when you can connect to another instantly. Putting that all together you get something like this:

jpc_multi.bat:
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echo off
title <title of the miner window>
:start
title #1 solomining
ccminer.exe -a jackpot -o <IP>:<port> -u <user> -p <password> -q -T 3 -R 3 -r 0
title #2 mining on dwarfpool
ccminer.exe -a jackpot -o stratum+tcp://erebor.dwarfpool.com:3352 -u <address> -q -T 3 -R 3 -r 0
title #3 mining on pool X
ccminer.exe ... -T 3 -R 3 -r 0
goto start

You can also play with having copies of ccminer.exe named differently in order to easily specify which ccminer you want to kill. You could also put it all in one .bat I believe but I prefer it this way. Also, logic dictates that if you don't kill ccminer just use it not to reconnect on error in a loop, you'll end up with proper failover, but sometimes ccminer doesn't exist when if it fails so we kind of have to kill it from time to time if we want to make sure it will be stable for days.
Almost forgot, don't list a lot of pools if you want to use a somewhat low restart frequency because it's not really a failover solution, it's more like a round-robin schedule which means it will try to mine on all of the pools listed and if you keep jumping off of pools before vardiff properly adjucts you'll end up with suboptimal effective hashrates on some pools.

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July 12, 2014, 04:27:37 PM
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I want buy a new rig,
what is the best nvidia card for nist5 and new x11,x12...
Thanks
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July 12, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
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I want buy a new rig,
what is the best nvidia card for nist5 and new x11,x12...
Thanks

there is only one choice for now, 750ti, more nvidia vga are coming at the end of this year...
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July 12, 2014, 05:17:29 PM
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I want buy a new rig,
what is the best nvidia card for nist5 and new x11,x12...
Thanks

there is only one choice for now, 750ti, more nvidia vga are coming at the end of this year...
What model?
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Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti FTW

Gigabyte and Asus are the best price

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July 12, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
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I'd be interested in opinions on auto profit switching.

If x11 is deemed the most profitable coin, how long should we mine it before checking which coin is best again?

I've set it to check every 60 seconds and switch if necessary. It's been running for 1 hour 10 minutes, and has switched algo 16 times. Too much? Or, maybe it's good to mix the coins so much?

I'm not sure if I should leave a larger interval between scanning for most profitable algo?

Mining the most profitable coin and how long we should mine it is a good question. As "most profitable" is only "most profitable" if said coin is exchanged at that same moment or at least at same price after it matures(if it applies) .

i wrote a "most profitable" proposal about 2 weeks ago regarding mining pools and the request to display the price when it is "most profitable" and then the price when exchanged to reflect transparency of the value of said coins as "most profitable".
The post can be viewed and commented on here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=674336.msg7799592#msg7799592

I hope this helps a little bit. Everyone has a different view of "most profitable" and what they want to achieve as a goal with mining, so trying to get the timing set for everyone to like would be a difficult task.

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July 12, 2014, 06:00:49 PM
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Ran the cards one at a time adding another card until I got them all going.

First card by itself got about 7,800 kh/s. Added card 2 about 5 minutes later and it ran at 7,700 kh/s and no problems. Added third card and it got 7,700 kh/s and the cpu usage still under 35%. Added fourth card and it ran at 7,700 kh/s each and cpu usage under 45%. So everything running fine up till now. Added last card and it starts off at 6,800 kh/s and cpu uasge jumps to about 70-75%. Now the first four cards kh/s is dropping. Right now they are all about 6,500 kh/s and still falling.

So time for a new cpu?

Yes, sure sounds like it's a CPU problem.  The only other test I might consider doing/trying is to take the 5th card and switch it with the 1st card and try again.  I'd only do this just to prove there isn't a problem with the 5th card (doubtful).

Out of curiosity do you have another computer around you could just move one of the GPUs to until you get a new CPU?  This could also allow you hash at full speed.

I'd be interested in opinions on auto profit switching.

If x11 is deemed the most profitable coin, how long should we mine it before checking which coin is best again?

I've set it to check every 60 seconds and switch if necessary. It's been running for 1 hour 10 minutes, and has switched algo 16 times. Too much? Or, maybe it's good to mix the coins so much?

I'm not sure if I should leave a larger interval between scanning for most profitable algo?
I'll share a few of the basic things I built into my profit switching algo.  These are just basics but can get you thinking.

You should work up an algo to do this for you.  Example:
Only check prices ever 5 minutes.
If top price is different then track but do not switch yet.
Check again in 5 minutes.  If still top price then switch.

Many pools penalize you for switching so you don't want to switch unless you need to.
From what I've seen many of the API services often times return the wrong/incorrect data at times but if you run it again within a minute or two then it comes back correct.
So as part of your switching algo you could track old price and new price and make sure they are roughly close to each other or you could consider them invalid results.  As an example if you pull every 5 minutes then you could track diff and exchange rate to make sure they didn't jump (within 5 minutes) to something unreasonable/unlikely.

You can also track the amount of time since your last overall switch.  Since you know how profitable the new coin is going to be you could base the switch on time.  For example lets say you calculated 0.15 as the btc you earn on coin X (coin currently mining) per rig for the day.  Coin B (best new price) would be 0.15004 per day.  Since this is only 0.00004 btc per day difference you don't want to switch right away as you'll probably loose more by jumping coins.

Little changes like the above can have you changing coins every minute or two if you don't take time into the equasion.  But if you take into account the time since your last coin switch you could do something like this:
If A > B then do no switch (current coin is most profitable) DUH Smiley
if B > (A+0.01) and 15 minutes passed then switch
If B > A and 60 minutes have passed then switch

So basically use some type of time element plus rate of change into consideration to figure how often you can/should switch or hold firm.

Not to complicate things but as you develop this you also want to take into consideration how long it takes a coin to mature (how long for you to get it to an exchange) . What the trading volume is and if they exchange rate is going up, down or staying roughly even.

Nothing is worse then switching coins you are mining but can't get the coins earned onto an exchange for a hour, only to have the price tank. Sad

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July 12, 2014, 06:20:14 PM
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S_tring,

Just thought of two other basic things you want to take into consideration:
1) You may want/need a "fudge" factor for some pools or algos.  As an Example, you will hardly ever earn the same amount (long term) as a pure math calculator will tell you due to orphons, coin or pool issues.  As an example you might earn 5% less on Jackpot then a calc will tell you but you will probably earn 15% less on CryptoNight.  So when doing your calculations you would multiple Jackpot * .95 and any CryptoNight coin * .85, etc  This type of thing would take into affect pool fees or your could track them separately.  You will have to assemble this info as you go but it's worth tracking and adding to your profit switching algo as you go.

2) Make sure you have very, very accurate rates for each hash algo you are going to run.  This is the reason I added the average hash rate using the last 50 submitted shares to nvMiner.  I found after adding and using this many of my hash rates were not accurate. Some high and some low but it made a difference.  If your hash rates are off then everything else will be off of course.  Garbage in = garbage out. Smiley

Hope this wasn't too much info but I'd consider these the basics of what to track and how to switch to get started.  Then you can add additional things and optimize it.

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July 12, 2014, 06:37:01 PM
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cbuchner1 went underground ?

*pulls head out of sand*

nope, I am working on the cpuminer-multi fork for BBR with cuda.

Is it going to be part of ccminer?

not in the first shot for sure...
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July 12, 2014, 07:21:06 PM
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S_tring,

Just thought of two other basic things you want to take into consideration:
1) You may want/need a "fudge" factor for some pools or algos.  As an Example, you will hardly ever earn the same amount (long term) as a pure math calculator will tell you due to orphons, coin or pool issues.  As an example you might earn 5% less on Jackpot then a calc will tell you but you will probably earn 15% less on CryptoNight.  So when doing your calculations you would multiple Jackpot * .95 and any CryptoNight coin * .85, etc  This type of thing would take into affect pool fees or your could track them separately.  You will have to assemble this info as you go but it's worth tracking and adding to your profit switching algo as you go.

2) Make sure you have very, very accurate rates for each hash algo you are going to run.  This is the reason I added the average hash rate using the last 50 submitted shares to nvMiner.  I found after adding and using this many of my hash rates were not accurate. Some high and some low but it made a difference.  If your hash rates are off then everything else will be off of course.  Garbage in = garbage out. Smiley

Hope this wasn't too much info but I'd consider these the basics of what to track and how to switch to get started.  Then you can add additional things and optimize it.

Carlo
Many thanks for all the advice Carlo, and to others for the earlier suggestions.

I definitely need to experiment more.

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July 12, 2014, 07:29:25 PM
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I want buy a new rig,
what is the best nvidia card for nist5 and new x11,x12...
Thanks

there is only one choice for now, 750ti, more nvidia vga are coming at the end of this year...
What model?
Quote
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti
Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti FTW

Gigabyte and Asus are the best price
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I want buy a new rig,
what is the best nvidia card for nist5 and new x11,x12...
Thanks

there is only one choice for now, 750ti, more nvidia vga are coming at the end of this year...
What model?
Quote
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti
Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti FTW

Gigabyte and Asus are the best price

hi me new bie where to mine pool


x11
x13
x15
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where
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