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January 02, 2019, 10:43:16 AM
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Max profit should be equal to the edge (after discounting rakeback, referrals and other promotions, so 0.7% or whatever), and based on the real (deposited) bankroll. Then, you could allow 2x leverage for those that want to let players bet at 2x kelly. More than that is just excessive and forces investors to overleverage as others do the same (or invest in another casino with more reasonable leverage, or no leverage).
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January 02, 2019, 10:55:10 AM
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The new promotions will be interesting to watch.
I wanted to ask, while on the bankroll thing, if you get a percentage bankroll figure that remains fixed, if a lot of the bankroll gets pulled out, does the amount you have go down quite significantly?



A leverage of 1 means youre risking 1/10th of the people on a leverage of 10 I don't think that's a big deal at all because leverage is just the amount of risk you're taking.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "a percentage bankroll figure that remains fixed" as nothing remains fixed except for the initial amount you invested and the leverage (unless you change them), everything else is controlled by profits/losses on investment.  If you invest any specific amount, and other people in the same bankroll pull out, your effective % share of the bankroll would go up, not down.  The % of the bankroll you own goes down if other people invest, but only the % changes, not the actual amount you invested (in either case).



Ah. I thought the site said it was a fixed percentage when I made an investment but it was 6 months ago so I doubt I've remembered it rightly. It did look an odd system if it went that way...

Max profit should be equal to the edge (after discounting rakeback, referrals and other promotions, so 0.7% or whatever), and based on the real (deposited) bankroll. Then, you could allow 2x leverage for those that want to let players bet at 2x kelly. More than that is just excessive and forces investors to overleverage as others do the same (or invest in another casino with more reasonable leverage, or no leverage).

Is the max profit should be equal to edge thing done on a lot of other sites or is it just randomely pulled out? I don't see why there's an issue with the leverage added it's just the more you want to risk, a potentially greater profit. Profits seem to have fallen quite a bit on investments though for now but I'm still at a profit from the start...

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January 03, 2019, 12:29:55 PM
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That seems like a mistake. It should just be 0.5% of the effective bankroll. Otherwise if the average leverage is over 5x then everyone ends up less leveraged than they asked to be. A regular unleveraged investor could end up risking way less than the 0.5% of their investment per roll that they wanted to risk.

How is it significant in any way?
as soon as you put the investment in the site you accept to see it lost in case of a lucky run.

Unleveraged investors presumably want to be risking 0.5% of their investment to a max-profit bet. But the 2.5% limit means that doesn't happen. How is that not significant? It means investors are risking less than they expect to, and suffering reduced expected bankroll growth as a result.

Your comment about accepting loss is irrelevant here. It is unrelated to what I was saying.

We added "2.5% of the real bankroll" limit quite late once we saw that max per-bet profit sky-rocketing as more and more investments were being opened with x10 leverage. This was obviously to limit variation a bit and keep site profit a bit more predictable.

"Site profit" doesn't matter. Individual player profits matter, and individual investor profits matter, but the sum of them really doesn't mean anything, not even to the site's collection of commission.

Still, investments with x10 have exactly ten times larger share in site profit. x1 investments are what they are - you invest your exact amount, without any leverage, and your investment will never be closed due to a loss.

Yes, but the 1x investor is expecting to be risking up to 0.5% of their investment per roll, but only getting something like half of that due to the 2.5% limit.

We might limit the actual leverage to x5 max and remove this "2.5%" condition at some point, it would make things a bit easier. But we haven't decided on this yet.

I don't see why you wouldn't simply remove the 2.5% limit. It's not helping anyone: it reduces the maximum bet size for players, makes investors risk less than they signed up for, and reduces the site's expected commissions.

Having said that, it's your site of course, and you're free to run it how you like. I just don't understand.




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January 03, 2019, 01:29:25 PM
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http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam
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January 03, 2019, 01:31:48 PM
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http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam

Did you ever hear about provably fair ?

I think you might be underestimating variance, and the fact that long losing streaks are more likely to happen over time

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January 04, 2019, 04:31:37 PM
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http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam
http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam

You expected a win every time?

How is a site going to profit if they go low multiplier = automatic win... People don't have common sense anymore apparently.

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January 04, 2019, 04:39:09 PM
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http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam
http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam

You expected a win every time?

How is a site going to profit if they go low multiplier = automatic win... People don't have common sense anymore apparently.
Maybe its his first time to experience losing streaks using up low multipliers  Grin and now calling it a scam when they already lose up their bankroll.




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January 04, 2019, 04:49:16 PM
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http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam
Afraid it is a scam?
Test it with provably fair.

You or someone made a big loss?
Whange the seed and see it the old ones matches with the results.
That's really not difficult to check if a provably fair game is cheating or not...

And it's the guy with 0.5BTC of loss in the site who is talking ^^

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January 04, 2019, 05:05:08 PM
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http://prntscr.com/m2kikd  http://prntscr.com/m2kj15  http://prntscr.com/m2kjfd   and many more players who lose on percentages such as 80% 85% and 90% these odds are a scam

These kind of players are maybe just new in gambling or just a kid that can't accept losses. If you know what provably fair means, please check your rolls but if you dont know what that means you can try to use google, it can help on most cases

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January 07, 2019, 07:25:19 AM
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I will be migrating servers during the next hour (or two), you can experience several server restarts. I'll try not to take YD off-line, so you'll know what's going on.

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January 08, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
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So, after the maintenance we got a new database server - more disk capacity, more CPUs. Bets and everything else should be fast.

We still need to upgrade wallets and prepare to Constantinople Hard Fork and we'll work on it in the upcoming days.

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January 08, 2019, 01:24:44 PM
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Maybe its his first time to experience losing streaks using up low multipliers  Grin and now calling it a scam when they already lose up their bankroll.
Once anyone loss then the person will tell call that as scam but if make good profit then they will not tell it as scam and all will seems okay to them. But they should know all times there should not be profit sometimes there should have loss too.

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January 10, 2019, 08:06:12 AM
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some hidden lucky user has won 19.33601507 BTC in the last two days  Smiley

19.33601507 BTC = 74466.66787743 USD

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January 10, 2019, 08:08:23 AM
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some hidden lucky user has won 19.33601507 BTC in the last two days  Smiley

19.33601507 BTC = 74466.66787743 USD


not too bad. he must have some reasons to be hidden Wink

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January 10, 2019, 08:09:13 AM
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I just love this site, I made more profit from Investment here instead of gambling! 😂
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January 10, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
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Congratulations, looks like it's been a good week for players in the "Players vs Investors Saga".

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January 12, 2019, 05:23:49 PM
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I just love this site, I made more profit from Investment here instead of gambling! 😂

You will get a good profit on any gambling site if there are enough traffic, this can't be doubted anymore. There is no need to rush everything here, just some believe on every site that you are investing its more than enough. It will get you some benefits as well. As you can see YD is always successful with their investment, either when there is a competition or when it is not. Some big winning like this do not ruin their bankroll into pieces

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January 13, 2019, 05:39:23 AM
 #2758

I just love this site, I made more profit from Investment here instead of gambling! 😂

You will get a good profit on any gambling site if there are enough traffic, this can't be doubted anymore. There is no need to rush everything here, just some believe on every site that you are investing its more than enough. It will get you some benefits as well. As you can see YD is always successful with their investment, either when there is a competition or when it is not. Some big winning like this do not ruin their bankroll into pieces
Well said, rather than gambling it is much easier to get profit investing on the websites. Here, a big volume needs to be invested which is the issue. As the ROI for the investment is very small a high volume invest only could get a better stable earning. To this people prefer to gamble and try their luck rather than placing funds for a long term on a third party platform.



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January 14, 2019, 01:57:17 AM
 #2759

I just love this site, I made more profit from Investment here instead of gambling! 😂

You will get a good profit on any gambling site if there are enough traffic, this can't be doubted anymore. There is no need to rush everything here, just some believe on every site that you are investing its more than enough. It will get you some benefits as well. As you can see YD is always successful with their investment, either when there is a competition or when it is not. Some big winning like this do not ruin their bankroll into pieces
Well said, rather than gambling it is much easier to get profit investing on the websites. Here, a big volume needs to be invested which is the issue. As the ROI for the investment is very small a high volume invest only could get a better stable earning. To this people prefer to gamble and try their luck rather than placing funds for a long term on a third party platform.
I did experiment in the past, putting my money in some of the dice sites but I got bored of waiting because it does not grow based on my expectations, there are days that my investment will decrease and some days it's up, so I realize that those who are benefited with bankroll investment are only those who have a decent capital. What I did afterward is I gamble some of my money and the bought some altcoins and the decision with buying altcoins was more profitable compared to investment, I don't know now because the market is bearish.



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January 14, 2019, 02:28:41 AM
 #2760

I just love this site, I made more profit from Investment here instead of gambling! 😂

You will get a good profit on any gambling site if there are enough traffic, this can't be doubted anymore. There is no need to rush everything here, just some believe on every site that you are investing its more than enough. It will get you some benefits as well. As you can see YD is always successful with their investment, either when there is a competition or when it is not. Some big winning like this do not ruin their bankroll into pieces
If you research well and willing to wait for much longer time, investment inside the house will always be a passive investment for people who knows where to place their money, well known site who offers such investment in the long run will bring positive outcome, only those who don't have patience and being so doubtful will ruin this type of investment so make sure you are always prepare and and aiming for much longer term.



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