Official CedarTec Topic - New ASIC [Scam?]

[Anonymousg64]

it works both ways

but in the end, its all just a bunch of opinions, assumptions and interpretations.

we want successful and competitive asic businesses, some of us have to bring a counter view to make sure possible non scam dont fail due to being portrayed as a scam. It may appear as an obvious scam to some of you, i think there are reasons for the discrepancy's that make you believe its an obvious scam. Im not saying they are not a scam, the only way it will resolve to that is if they deliver. But for now they sit in between, and i chose to bet on them instead of bfl or any other recent and proven scams out there.

[premo]

i wonda how much proofs avalon provided before batch1 

[HerrDoktor]

i wonda how much proofs avalon provided before batch1 

No nee to wonda  just use the search function 

[Xialla]

not sure if somebody already mention it, but PSU plug direction seems also little tricky.) check the direction

original picture from official website:


and details of PSU:


..so yes, it is SCAM.

[Delitus]

I understand that images of enclosures may be doctored to provide an idea of what the final product may look like - but blatant edits to a picture of a supposedly functional hardware simply does not instill confidence in the project's legitimacy. Ironically, this sham would have been more of a convincing one had the images not been provided... way to shoot yourself in the foot, "CedarTec"! 

Any person with the most fundamental levels of common sense should have by now deduced that this whole "project" is, at best, unsafe to get involved in, and at worst, a blatant scam. Ultimately, whether you choose to trust this project or not is your decision - but do not let greed cloud common sense and sound reasoning.

[Bitcoinorama]

For the record the images of the case are rendered mock-ups that don't exist.

There are some that think they are real case photos.

I would love for Cedertec to demonstrate videos of the real case x1000; that would definitely take the scam to a new heights (or lows depending on how you view this).

But seeing as they haven't mentioned they are even on order yet, one assumes they must have them in stock, or can fabricate them in under a week; they're meant to be delivered to their 'customers' in two weeks!

The whole idea is preposterous.

[Xian01]

For the record the images of the case are rendered mock-ups that don't exist.

Doing an image error level analysis of the case indicates that the fans (appearing to be copy/pastes of the same fan image), power supply, ethernet, and power lights are the only "real" elements in the photo.

[Anonymousg64]

Dear customer,

What is the expected time required for the manufacture from your
source?
-originally 10 days to be able to ship the first week orders,
through the delay we must wait, we are not the only ones
who let produce in this factory. More informations will
be published next week.

how are you going to go about mass producing?
-see above

how is the optimization coming along? can you give details of what
needs or needed to be optimized?
-we need more coreclock -> more voltage, not possible through
the resulting higher temperatures.
Currently we are working on a watercooling system.
The final product will need more then 200 watt,
we try to hold the consumption on around
240 watts or we need to redesign the pcb,
our current design allows only around 250 watts.

With best regards,

Your CedarTec Team.

bitcoinarama, they only plan to produce 100/week. the information they provided in the email does make sense, their pcb atx 20pin connector can only supply a maximum of 251watts.

[torusJKL]

Anonymousg64, if you continue like this you'll going to be known as the hero member that received his status by writing in 1 thread alone.

[funnow]

Does anybody watch their video of the product on the media section?

[torusJKL]

Does anybody watch their video of the product on the media section?

There is nothing to see on that video.
Nothing that matters at least.

[funnow]

Does anybody watch their video of the product on the media section?

There is nothing to see on that video.
Nothing that matters at least.

Yes still no proof to be something for real.

[Anonymousg64]

just some details from the video, nothing that proves or does not prove them to be a scam
the webgui in the video is at v0.8
the device has poweron and reset buttons, a led for on/off status and led for mining status
power consumption is at 94w idle and 234w mining
the max hashrate on the video was 68Gh/s
the webgui provides unlockable overclock/downclock for both idle and mining states.
you can mine on many pools and set a percentage of the device hashrate to each.
the device in the video matches the one in the pictures

[torusJKL]

just some details from the video, nothing that proves or does not prove them to be a scam
the webgui in the video is at v0.8
the device has poweron and reset buttons, a led for on/off status and led for mining status
power consumption is at 94w idle and 234w mining
the max hashrate on the video was 68Gh/s
the webgui provides unlockable overclock/downclock for both idle and mining states.
you can mine on many pools and set a percentage of the device hashrate to each.
the device in the video matches the one in the pictures

the wires have multiple colors
the background of the webgui is white
the led work and shine bright

Any other facts that are not really worthy of mentioning?

[Anonymousg64]

the video proves that this company is arabic

[torusJKL]

the video proves that this company is arabic

I wouldn't say it proves that.
But even if so what does that prove?

[Bitcoinorama]

the video proves that this company is arabic

How, pray tell?

[Anonymousg64]

you asked for anything else worth mentioning


ofcourse it does not "prove" them be arabic
spoken arabic at the start and the prompts that used windows default language on the buttons were in arabic

[BR0KK]

Dear customer,

What is the expected time required for the manufacture from your
source?
-originally 10 days to be able to ship the first week orders,
through the delay we must wait, we are not the only ones
who let produce in this factory. More informations will
be published next week.

how are you going to go about mass producing?
-see above

how is the optimization coming along? can you give details of what
needs or needed to be optimized?
-we need more coreclock -> more voltage, not possible through
the resulting higher temperatures.
Currently we are working on a watercooling system.
The final product will need more then 200 watt,
we try to hold the consumption on around
240 watts or we need to redesign the pcb,
our current design allows only around 250 watts.

With best regards,

Your CedarTec Team.

bitcoinarama, they only plan to produce 100/week. the information they provided in the email does make sense, their pcb atx 20pin connector can only supply a maximum of 251watts.

Highlighted sounds kind of familiar

[Anonymousg64]

seems they forgot to photoshop the thumbnail aswell