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February 03, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
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I find that with the not, it performs better with coins that go up and down regularly, but essentially stay the same.

With coins that are on a continuous down/up trend, the not encounters problems.

On down trends: The bot will continuously buy until it reaches its max, and then wait to sell ~2% above what it bought for (using default trading logic). If the price keeps going down, the bot will just hold and hold until the value goes under 40% of what it was originally (If I'm not mistaken)

On up trends: The bot will buy at the lower EMA value, which will happen because up trends are not 100% green, and then sell ~2% above. Then it will try again to buy more coin, but since the price is going up it will have to buy for more than it sold for. This will keep happening, and you will make profit, but for trading a pair like USDT/BTC, which is mostly bullish, you will have a hard time (especially recently). I had to stop my bot and trade manually to make some of my investment back.

I would recommend the two pairs XMR/DASH, USDT/ETH
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February 03, 2017, 11:44:03 PM
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Thanks for your feedback, glad to hear that it's fire-and-forget, as that's really what I'll need for the small-scale hobbyist purpose I intend (and also to mitigate emotion on my side).

I hope it will be in future fire-and-forget because

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today rebootet the router and all tasks have stopped and never revived  Sad



Due to an issue that I don't think ever got resolved with Windows 10 and gunbot I actually have my bots running from a batch file with the batch file closing and relaunching the bots every 30 minutes. I then set this to run as a service using nssm. This actually works out because if I decide I need to make a change to the bots I can modify the config files and the changes will take effect within 30 minutes. Doing something similar would fix your issue if your internet goes out.

some Linux users are using it with nodemon as well: it restarts the bot at every *.js change (so even params.js and config.js)

Actually the error i'm seeing in case of a lost connection are ECONNECT and Socket Hang Up. I could try to handle the socket problem with node.js https parser and handle the ECONNECT error with a file change (for example) so nodemon would immediately restart it (even a dummy.js file would be good).

If you want to test it, you can install it with
Code:
npm install nodemon

Then launch the bot with
Code:
nodemon 1000trades.js

Then try to change any settings in config.js or params.js and you will see your bot auto-restarting

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February 04, 2017, 01:44:22 AM
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So further review of this bots strategy, and after observing it for a while I think I see a flaw in the current implementation that needs to be dealt with. See: https://www.tradingview.com/script/ofJIry2F-Gunbot-Noloss/

Basically, gunbot has no means to ever exit a bad trade and depending on the pair can get stuck until manual intevention. I know there is bloody mary strategy, but with how I understand that works I don't think that completely solves this problem per-say.  I am thinking I personally am going to back away from this bot for now and trade with my own strategies until I see a better way to deal with bad trades.

Perhaps instead of just creating a sell order at a certain percentage above the buy order, it would be better to continue to watch the order and if the indicators are that of a sale position, but falling and not close yet to the original sell order placed it replaces the sell order with a sell at the current price instead. It would mean the bot would take losses occasionally, but better than staying forever in a bad trade.
THat's what the old strategies Aggressive and Moderate did: while you wait for the sell order to be placed, you woudl get stucked with buy opportuinities.

The point of view is being able to get no emotions and have a "daily" trading strategy plus a middle/long term strategy with those coins that you call "bad trades"
Those are not bad trades man, those are coins that you bought cheap and dont have the patience to wait for the sell order.
How long should this been repeated?

EDIT: or yes, trade them manually. By manually it is not defined here what you call "manual intervention". THere shoudnt be a manual intervention at all in a strategy so easy and simple like this: price goes down both ema1 and ema2 > the bot buys. Price goes up both ema1 and ema2 > bot sells.
Getting rid of the emotion to "not be able to wait for the price to sell"...is the hardest part. As i always repeat: that's why you bought a bot uh. Oh no wait...you didnt buy it indeed... edited as it wasnt for this user

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February 04, 2017, 02:00:07 AM
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it still will get stuck with same scenario eventually.
It is not the trade getting stuck: it is you getting stuck on the "need to sell asap" strategy (again)

If you look at the strategy I just put together on tradingview you can see what I am talking about when you look at pairs like XMR or ETC on say the 5 min chart.
Wrong chart: wont work on 5 minutes candlesticks. Stated many times in the thread and stated to you too when i gave you my porting of gunbot to tradingview: the 2EMA strategy is profitable ONLY on the 15 minutes period


They would be stuck without any trades sitting on huge losses since early January late december.
What you call "huge losses" is the normal swing that happens every week since january/december with teh price btc/usd. Again the "loss" terms is coming from a worng point of view of the "need to sell asap"


The 1000Trade from what I can tell doesn't seem to be much smarter without me intervening

And here is the mistake: today on the telegram group i posted the bloody mary (which in my opinion isnt the solution to the btc/usd swing, it is just a piece of code i've thrown there for those like you taht asked a "sell asap" exit). Lost 0.001 and gained back in 5 hours. Right now my today earning is at 1.76 vs 1.74 of the post bloody mary of today.

HOLD!!!!!!

Edit: Didn't buy it? I paid you for it.

No wait that wasnt for you lol. Of course you paid.

EDIT: HOLD!

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February 04, 2017, 02:53:43 AM
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Gun, calm down buddy you are going to give you are self an aneurysm, lol.
You are prolly right and being 98yo is not a good thing

Your, bot is still the best bot available for sale here, just trying to offer constructive criticism.
Yes it is: say it loud

Back to work now:

First you never said 15 minute was ever the only profitable with the 2EMA
Yes it is specified in the Instruction manual on top of this thread

but most pairs do perform better with 15 yes.
Yes they do: the 2EMA strategy works ONLY with a 15 minutes strategy because it needs the volume to work. A 5 minutes candlesticks has not enough volume to generate a responsive enough long and short EMA.

My point with having you use the 5Min chart on tradingview strategy i put together, is how far back it goes on the 5 min chart for backtesting,
It is a false backtesting because you must do the backtesting with the same EMA period you use live

but by all means use the 15Min chart you are going to end up with same situation of sitting for weeks.
 In fact using the 15 min chart looking at the trade history on backtesting shows it would of been stuck waiting on XMR to recover from October 2 till December 27th. That is a ton of missed trade opportunities.

Correct! That's why i deprecated the aggressive and moderate strategy to only allow the 1000trades: the difference is easy and straight:
You dont sit anymore missing trade opportunitise by the moment you place a sell order immediately allowing the bot to continue trading using the availabel balance that you still have. EVENTUALLY: only a small portion of your balance will get "stuck", not all yrou balance.
Today a user (i will find his name later and post here his questions) PMed me and told this situation.
Wanna knwo what is his limit indeed? Think abotu it for one moment: the REAL limit is the % of balance you allow the bot to trade per pair.
I could have suggested him to enable Bloody Mary! Sorry. it is against my principles lol, even if i coded it. So wanna knwo what i told that guy? I told him: stop yrou bot and raise your max % balance to 40%.
Look what he wrote me back after a while (found him while writing):


Thanks,

I set a higher max % balance and now Gunbot keeps buying/selling.
Another thing i learned  Grin

Have a very nice weekend to you.



How long should you wait out this swing? Like I said in an earlier thread I have been testing this against a bot I wrote with autoview that is actually capable of taking small losses and moving on. Comparing the two accounts is a stark difference. My bot in autoview had long dug out of this latest swing while gunbot still has pairs hodl'ing.
Sorry i dont support the trade at loss: i understand the importance of it and i coded it in the bot upon users requests but here it is not a matter of creating liquidity by tradign at loss: raise your max% balance as only a small portion of yrou coins are being hold.

it seems like the smarter move is to sell so as to continue trading.
As i said: no.

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February 04, 2017, 03:16:30 AM
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MINOR FIX AVAILABLE: for those running on windows 10 64 bit that are experiencing an issue that would stuck the bot making it not updating prices.

Please if you dont have this issue, you dont need this update. This update is for people like ewibin and/or others that reported their bot stucking at price updates.

PM me to get the patch.
Thanks!
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February 04, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
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may I...?!
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this is how the bot gets "stuck"! and throwing more money at it by raising the % is not the answer I think! However, with XMR I still feel confident enough not to manually intervene and and just "ride it out"!
And I do hope that I dont have to live forever for this to happen!-)

PS. sorry, no 15min candles available in week view. and yes I have restarted gunbot on Feb/2
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February 04, 2017, 11:51:38 AM
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may I...?!
~snip
this is how the bot gets "stuck"! and throwing more money at it by raising the % is not the answer I think! However, with XMR I still feel confident enough not to manually intervene and and just "ride it out"!
And I do hope that I dont have to live forever for this to happen!-)

PS. sorry, no 15min candles available in week view. and yes I have restarted gunbot on Feb/2
Yup!
Pushing a fix to that in a few hours Wink

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February 04, 2017, 12:05:55 PM
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Mandatory Update v.1.1.0.12 - Release name: "ClayBaron"

Changelogs:

 - Do not buy on top of bullish trend (even if price is below EMA)
 - Do not buy during a BTC/USD rally: we would sit days waiting for altcoins to recover
 - Deprecated Bloody Mary: it wasnt the solution
 - Fixing the issue of Windows 10 and Windows 2012 server users getting stucked on price updates: ECONNECT and Socket Hang Up are dealt as error and gracefully closed rather than waiting for poloniex to hang up our connection
- Minor fixes and code improvement.

I will start to deploy this by this afternoon UTC time.
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So the bloody mary strategy will be removed in the next patch? You're really producing so many updates, my friend. Maybe you should really consider that website I told you about. So everyone could be in the know. Anyway, always behind you bud! Looking forward to new update! Smiley

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February 04, 2017, 12:12:45 PM
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So the bloody mary strategy will be removed in the next patch? You're really producing so many updates, my friend. Maybe you should really consider that website I told you about. So everyone could be in the know. Anyway, always behind you bud! Looking forward to new update! Smiley

Well these are user's generated patches and fixes, these are my favourite Wink originally i planned one update per month but as you can see...we always have nice ideas to improve the bot by talking here. I dont think a static website would give us such an opportunity...

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February 04, 2017, 12:16:58 PM
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@Gunthar take your time! nobody expects the bot to be an "price predicting oracle"!-) certainly not me! This was very bad luck as well. now, I only start new pairs when they are in a "low". much better chances!
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February 04, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
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So the bloody mary strategy will be removed in the next patch? You're really producing so many updates, my friend. Maybe you should really consider that website I told you about. So everyone could be in the know. Anyway, always behind you bud! Looking forward to new update! Smiley

Well these are user's generated patches and fixes, these are my favourite Wink originally i planned one update per month but as you can see...we always have nice ideas to improve the bot by talking here. I dont think a static website would give us such an opportunity...

Not really for discussion on the website, just for a more centralized place to get the latest updates. I still like the thread for discussion too. Just that sometimes I have problems looking for the new updates on the thread, especially when there are plenty of people discussing the bot. Smiley

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February 04, 2017, 02:04:54 PM
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Actually the error i'm seeing in case of a lost connection are ECONNECT and Socket Hang Up. I could try to handle the socket problem with node.js https parser and handle the ECONNECT error with a file change (for example) so nodemon would immediately restart it (even a dummy.js file would be good).

If you want to test it, you can install it with
Code:
npm install nodemon

Then launch the bot with
Code:
nodemon 1000trades.js

Then try to change any settings in config.js or params.js and you will see your bot auto-restarting


Code:
npm ERR! not a package /home/xxx/trade/gunbot/nodemon
npm ERR! addLocal Could not install /home/xxx/trade/gunbot/nodemon
npm ERR! Linux 4.4.0-59-generic
npm ERR! argv "/usr/bin/nodejs" "/usr/bin/npm" "install" "nodemon"
npm ERR! node v4.2.6
npm ERR! npm  v3.5.2
npm ERR! path /tmp/npm-29947-053bf887/unpack-aa5777fa/package.json
npm ERR! code ENOENT
npm ERR! errno -2
npm ERR! syscall open

npm ERR! enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open '/tmp/npm-29947-053bf887/unpack-aa5777fa/package.json'
npm ERR! enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open '/tmp/npm-29947-053bf887/unpack-aa5777fa/package.json'
npm ERR! enoent This is most likely not a problem with npm itself
npm ERR! enoent and is related to npm not being able to find a file.
npm ERR! enoent


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February 04, 2017, 02:12:13 PM
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Actually the error i'm seeing in case of a lost connection are ECONNECT and Socket Hang Up. I could try to handle the socket problem with node.js https parser and handle the ECONNECT error with a file change (for example) so nodemon would immediately restart it (even a dummy.js file would be good).

If you want to test it, you can install it with
Code:
npm install nodemon

Then launch the bot with
Code:
nodemon 1000trades.js

Then try to change any settings in config.js or params.js and you will see your bot auto-restarting


Code:
npm ERR! not a package /home/xxx/trade/gunbot/nodemon
npm ERR! addLocal Could not install /home/xxx/trade/gunbot/nodemon
npm ERR! Linux 4.4.0-59-generic
npm ERR! argv "/usr/bin/nodejs" "/usr/bin/npm" "install" "nodemon"
npm ERR! node v4.2.6
npm ERR! npm  v3.5.2
npm ERR! path /tmp/npm-29947-053bf887/unpack-aa5777fa/package.json
npm ERR! code ENOENT
npm ERR! errno -2
npm ERR! syscall open

npm ERR! enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open '/tmp/npm-29947-053bf887/unpack-aa5777fa/package.json'
npm ERR! enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open '/tmp/npm-29947-053bf887/unpack-aa5777fa/package.json'
npm ERR! enoent This is most likely not a problem with npm itself
npm ERR! enoent and is related to npm not being able to find a file.
npm ERR! enoent

npm install -g nodaemon
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~snip

npm install -g nodaemon

you are right: it installs it as global in that way. Kudo!

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~snip

npm install -g nodaemon

you are right: it installs it as global in that way. Kudo!

Code:
npm install -g nodaemon
npm ERR! Linux 4.4.0-59-generic
npm ERR! argv "/usr/bin/nodejs" "/usr/bin/npm" "install" "-g" "nodaemon"
npm ERR! node v4.2.6
npm ERR! npm  v3.5.2
npm ERR! code E404

npm ERR! 404 Registry returned 404 for GET on https://registry.npmjs.org/nodaemon
npm ERR! 404
npm ERR! 404  'nodaemon' is not in the npm registry.
npm ERR! 404 You should bug the author to publish it (or use the name yourself!)
npm ERR! 404
npm ERR! 404 Note that you can also install from a
npm ERR! 404 tarball, folder, http url, or git url.


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February 04, 2017, 03:05:18 PM
 #478

~snip

npm install -g nodaemon

you are right: it installs it as global in that way. Kudo!

Code:
npm install -g nodaemon
npm ERR! Linux 4.4.0-59-generic
npm ERR! argv "/usr/bin/nodejs" "/usr/bin/npm" "install" "-g" "nodaemon"
npm ERR! node v4.2.6
npm ERR! npm  v3.5.2
npm ERR! code E404

npm ERR! 404 Registry returned 404 for GET on https://registry.npmjs.org/nodaemon
npm ERR! 404
npm ERR! 404  'nodaemon' is not in the npm registry.
npm ERR! 404 You should bug the author to publish it (or use the name yourself!)
npm ERR! 404
npm ERR! 404 Note that you can also install from a
npm ERR! 404 tarball, folder, http url, or git url.

It is a typo of the OP

it is nodemon not nodaemon

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February 04, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
 #479

It is a typo of the OP

it is nodemon not nodaemon
both not working...


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February 04, 2017, 04:19:31 PM
 #480

Mandatory Update v.1.1.0.12 - Release name: "ClayBaron"

Changelogs:

 - Do not buy on top of bullish trend (even if price is below EMA)
 - Do not buy during a BTC/USD rally: we would sit days waiting for altcoins to recover
 - Deprecated Bloody Mary: it wasnt the solution
 - Fixing the issue of Windows 10 and Windows 2012 server users getting stucked on price updates: ECONNECT and Socket Hang Up are dealt as error and gracefully closed rather than waiting for poloniex to hang up our connection
- Minor fixes and code improvement.

I will start to deploy this by this afternoon UTC time.
~Gun


LOL, my own release version! Glad to see my criticism and suggestions inspired you. Keep up the good work Gun.

-Clay
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