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August 16, 2017, 08:54:32 AM
Last edit: August 16, 2017, 09:10:27 AM by papampi
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yeh im going to have 2x :  start.bat

start1.bat   original profit switching based on realtime : stats (same as currently)

start2.bat   new profit switching based : on 1 hour or 24 average btc/perGHS price (new)

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p.s The -SelGPU option is done and tested working very well on my test rigs 1070's and 1080ti's
Wow ...
This new start2 gonna be awesome.
I dont rememebr does nemos stop miner if zpool api not respond
if so could you find a way so the miner wont stop when Zpool api not responded ?
It happens a lot.
I think if you implement some way so main scrypt 1st download profit file from zpool api, make it ready to use , then replace them with old ones and if not succefull skip till next sync interval,
so shell always have profit files to use and wont give the "No Miner"

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August 16, 2017, 09:18:52 AM
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yeh im going to have 2x :  start.bat

start1.bat   original profit switching based on realtime : stats (same as currently)

start2.bat   new profit switching based : on 1 hour or 24 average btc/perGHS price (new)

Best Regards
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p.s The -SelGPU option is done and tested working very well on my test rigs 1070's and 1080ti's
Wow ...
This new start2 gonna be awesome.
I dont rememebr does nemos stop miner if zpool api not respond
if so could you find a way so the miner wont stop when Zpool api not responded ?
It happens a lot.
I think if you implement some way so main scrypt 1st download profit file from zpool api, make it ready to use , then replace them with old ones and if not succefull skip till next sync interval,
so shell always have profit files to use and wont give the "No Miner"
Sounds like a smart thing to implement.
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August 16, 2017, 10:04:18 AM
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Or it can have retry Loop
@tutulino added a retry loop to MegaMiner

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August 16, 2017, 04:02:25 PM
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Can I ask on what card(s) you tested and set the intensity in miners.sp1?
I get some random reboots/blue screens.
Isnt it better to have a intensity recommendation and let us set our own -i by trial and error and your tests?

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August 16, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
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Can I ask on what card(s) you tested and set the intensity in miners.sp1?
I get some random reboots/blue screens.
Isnt it better to have a intensity recommendation and let us set our own -i by trial and error and your tests?
^^^THIS. x1000.
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August 16, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
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Can I ask on what card(s) you tested and set the intensity in miners.sp1?
I get some random reboots/blue screens.
Isnt it better to have a intensity recommendation and let us set our own -i by trial and error and your tests?

As far as I can see he changed the intensities of Alexis. Or are those the default intensities set by Alexis himself?
So go ahead and set your own values.
Right click on ccminerAlexis78.ps1, select edit and voila!

I myself have no freezes/bluescreen but sometimes get "ccminer has stopped working" on skunk mostly.


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August 16, 2017, 06:09:42 PM
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Can I ask on what card(s) you tested and set the intensity in miners.sp1?
I get some random reboots/blue screens.
Isnt it better to have a intensity recommendation and let us set our own -i by trial and error and your tests?

tested on 1050ti 1060 1070 1080ti .................................... no blue screens or restarts fix your rig (the -i setting in Alexis is already lowered to make the 1050ti work most the -i can be higher if you are using 1070 and 1080ti cards...) you can check my .bat files from NemosMiner1.7.6-Zpool which has the custom intestines for each individual card

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August 16, 2017, 06:35:45 PM
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Thanks, ofc I have a rig of 1080's, the only gpu you haven't tested! Cheesy
I'll check the intestines.
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August 16, 2017, 08:22:38 PM
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Thnx a lot Nemo.

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August 16, 2017, 09:12:07 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2017, 09:29:36 PM by Nebiforever
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So, no one really cares about what some people say in this topic about the difference between whats your real profit on the pool side vs what nemosminer tells you are gaining?

ok i know when we calculate the facts that algo switching causes to lose time, pool fee, delays on pool api about GH/BTC, exchange fees etc. these facts avoid maximum profit you should have gain. but how come it can be half of it?

i dont think all these people who are making observations about real profits are doing the same mistake and making half of the profit what nemosminer says.

i myself tried multipoolminer on multipoolhub, nemosminer on zpool, nicehash and some others too. at the end of the day nicehash gives you almost the same profit what it declares live on the program, multipoolminer on mph gives around %70-75 of what average profit is declared on the script. nemosminer on zpool gives ~ %50 of what i see as much as observe while the script is running. (cant be precise on nemosminer because it doesnt have any average profit feature or something like that. but i observed it long enough to make some assumptions)

dont tell me that i need to test each program at the same time frame with same hash power bla bla. because i am not comparing the profits of each miner/pool. i am comparing the real profit vs what is being shown on miner program.

come on, i cant be alone, and i know i have enough knowledge and experience to maximize each miner program and run them fully stable. i even tried the different intervals (300-1800-3000-6000) as some other people like me did here. i am working on this for the last 2 weeks. and it doesnt sound real that most users of this miners cant see what's going on here.

you going to keep playing blind? is it a problem on pool side or script side? maybe all this algo switching maybe not profitable as it sounds?

i am not here to bash anything. i am here for answers.

and please nemos, do not reply this with "do whatever you want, i don't care"   or simply dont put me on ignore list as you did to the people who questioned same thing like me in this thread before.
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August 16, 2017, 10:06:31 PM
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Thanks, ofc I have a rig of 1080's, the only gpu you haven't tested! Cheesy
I'll check the intestines.

1070 -intensities will be fine for 1080

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August 16, 2017, 10:07:36 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2017, 10:45:18 PM by minerx117
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So, no one really cares about what some people say in this topic about the difference between whats your real profit on the pool side vs what nemosminer tells you are gaining?

ok i know when we calculate the facts that algo switching causes to lose time, pool fee, delays on pool api about GH/BTC, exchange fees etc. these facts avoid maximum profit you should have gain. but how come it can be half of it?

i dont think all these people who are making observations about real profits are doing the same mistake and making half of the profit what nemosminer says.

i myself tried multipoolminer on multipoolhub, nemosminer on zpool, nicehash and some others too. at the end of the day nicehash gives you almost the same profit what it declares live on the program, multipoolminer on mph gives around %70-75 of what average profit is declared on the script. nemosminer on zpool gives ~ %50 of what i see as much as observe while the script is running. (cant be precise on nemosminer because it doesnt have any average profit feature or something like that. but i observed it long enough to make some assumptions)

dont tell me that i need to test each program at the same time frame with same hash power bla bla. because i am not comparing the profits of each miner/pool. i am comparing the real profit vs what is being shown on miner program.

come on, i cant be alone, and i know i have enough knowledge and experience to maximize each miner program and run them fully stable. i even tried the different intervals (300-1800-3000-6000) as some other people like me did here. i am working on this for the last 2 weeks. and it doesnt sound real that most users of this miners cant see what's going on here.

you going to keep playing blind? is it a problem on pool side or script side? maybe all this algo switching maybe not profitable as it sounds?

i am not here to bash anything. i am here for answers.

and please nemos, do not reply this with "do whatever you want, i don't care"   or simply dont put me on ignore list as you did to the people who questioned same thing like me in this thread before.


very simple

Nicehash is PPS so what it says is what you get i think to many have gotten used to that........

mph and zpool are not PPS so what they say is not what you will get.. it's what it thinks it can get and that given time

average profit feature = im Implementing and testing ATM............ in the last 24hours (its only switched 5 times and been mining skein for over 80% of the time so on Average skein is the most Profitable Algo ATM

only two people on my Ignore list: Reborn21 and Bensam...   you are going the right way of being number 3 tho....... if you don't have anything to useful to contribute or ask, why should i bother reading your what you have to say its just wasting my time...

Nebiforever = NOOBie4ever ?

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August 16, 2017, 11:25:43 PM
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very simple

Nicehash is PPS so what it says is what you get i think to many have gotten used to that........

mph and zpool are not PPS so what they say is not what you will get.. it's what it thinks it can get and that given time

average profit feature = im Implementing and testing ATM............ in the last 24hours (its only switched 5 times and been mining skein for over 80% of the time so on Average skein is the most Profitable Algo ATM

only two people on my Ignore list: Reborn21 and Bensam...   you are going the right way of being number 3 tho....... if you don't have anything to useful to contribute or ask, why should i bother reading your what you have to say its just wasting my time...

Nebiforever = NOOBie4ever ?


So let's suppose that i'm a noob as you declare or even i am somebody that doesnt know anything about what PPS/PPLNS is, luck factor, and how those work under variable difficulty conditions. Or which one is superior to other in which conditions.

At the end of the day, it all comes to this question; with the same hashing power (unless you have a medium/large hash power) where do i get more profit daily ?

Maybe someone wants to share experience or knowladge in which conditions it is more profitable to use a non PPS pool. For example, if i have a 6 x gtx 1070 rig am i in the wrong place for mining, or i must look for a PPS pool, less crowded pool etc.

Dont be afraid to ignore me and thank you for not surprising me with being in an humiliating mode (or trying to be ?) against people who questions about something you involved. (maybe not even your problem, maybe it's all about PPS/PPLNS)
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August 16, 2017, 11:44:02 PM
Last edit: August 17, 2017, 05:54:12 AM by minerx117
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there is no PPS Alt coin pools that i know of Only Nicehash .....

I would Recommend start there.....
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August 17, 2017, 12:12:25 AM
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thank you but i prefer this one for nicehash

https://github.com/nicehash/NiceHashMinerLegacy/releases

i still didn't get answers to the main questions i had. but anyway, i will be waiting untill the average profit mode version of the nemosminer and give it a try.
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August 17, 2017, 01:48:05 AM
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thank you but i prefer this one for nicehash

i still didn't get answers to the main questions i had. but anyway, i will be waiting untill the average profit mode version of the nemosminer and give it a try.

yeh that one is better.... i tried it... got stuck downloading the miners... whats are your main question's?

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yeh that one is better.... whats are your main question's?

His questions are un-answerable.
I have been reading the same questions, same confusions from other people on other threads for months.
There is no definitive answer to those questions.
Sometimes NH pays more, sometimes zpool, sometimes MPH.
The markets are in constant flux, the easy days of simple choice ETHvsZEC are over.
The accusations of profit stealing have been debunked by people who understand how zpool works.
It all comes down to two strategies.
Either you use profit switching solution that pays in bitcoin, or you mine the coin and sell it yourself on exchange.
The third solution is called "no guts, no glory" way: you mine a low difficulty coin and hold it, hoping that the pump will come and you will be able to sell for maximum profitability.
Mining has become a major PITA.

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August 17, 2017, 05:31:07 AM
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yeh that one is better.... whats are your main question's?

His questions are un-answerable.
I have been reading the same questions, same confusions from other people on other threads for months.
There is no definitive answer to those questions.
Sometimes NH pays more, sometimes zpool, sometimes MPH.
The markets are in constant flux, the easy days of simple choice ETHvsZEC are over.
The accusations of profit stealing have been debunked by people who understand how zpool works.
It all comes down to two strategies.
Either you use profit switching solution that pays in bitcoin, or you mine the coin and sell it yourself on exchange.
The third solution is called "no guts, no glory" way: you mine a low difficulty coin and hold it, hoping that the pump will come and you will be able to sell for maximum profitability.
Mining has become a major PITA.


very well put.. i try to answer everyones questions the best i can..  

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August 17, 2017, 05:40:55 AM
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if you don't have anything to useful to contribute ...
Change the code in github:

NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1
    [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
    [Array]$SelGPU = $null, # sample 0..3
    [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
    [String]$SelGPUEWBF = "",
    [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
    [String]$SelGPUCC = "",
)

  if($SelGPU.Length -ne 0) # Array length test, if not null
   {
     $SelGPUCC = $SelGPU -join "," # "0,1,2,3", If you transfer an array to a string using the $SelGPUCC = $SelGPU will "0 1 2 3"
     $SelGPUCC = " -d $SelGPUCC" # " -d 0,1,2,3"
     $SelGPUEWBF = " --cuda_devices $SelGPU" # " --cuda_devices 0 1 2 3"
    }

Start.bat (with select 0,1,4)
"&.\NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1 -SelGPU 0,1,4 -Currency BTC ...
Start.bat (with select 0)
"&.\NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1 -SelGPU 0 -Currency BTC ...
Start.bat (all cuda device)
"&.\NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1 -Currency BTC

Work all Option.


ccminerAlexis78.ps1 (code sample)
"neoscrypt" = "$SelGPUCC -i 15" #NeoScrypt

EWBF.ps1 (code sample)
    "equihash" = "$SelGPUEWBF" #Equihash
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August 17, 2017, 05:44:50 AM
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if you don't have anything to useful to contribute ...
Change the code in github:

NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1
    [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
    [Array]$SelGPU = $null, # sample 0..3
    [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
    [String]$SelGPUEWBF = "",
    [Parameter(Mandatory=$false)]
    [String]$SelGPUCC = "",
)

  if($SelGPU.Length -ne 0) # Array length test, if not null
   {
     $SelGPUCC = $SelGPU -join "," # "0,1,2,3", If you transfer an array to a string using the $SelGPUCC = $SelGPU will "0 1 2 3"
     $SelGPUCC = " -d $SelGPUCC" # " -d 0,1,2,3"
     $SelGPUEWBF = " --cuda_devices $SelGPU" # " --cuda_devices 0 1 2 3"
    }

Start.bat (with select 0,1,4)
"&.\NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1 -SelGPU 0,1,4 -Currency BTC ...
Start.bat (with select 0)
"&.\NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1 -SelGPU 0 -Currency BTC ...
Start.bat (all cuda device)
"&.\NemosMiner-v2.1.ps1 -Currency BTC

Work all Option.


ccminerAlexis78.ps1 (code sample)
"neoscrypt" = "$SelGPUCC -i 15" #NeoScrypt

EWBF.ps1 (code sample)
    "equihash" = "$SelGPUEWBF" #Equihash

thanks on 2 it

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