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February 17, 2018, 12:50:07 PM
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NemosMiner 2.4.2 goes down when Coinbase API is down....  Logic to use arbitrary BTC value or 'previous value' would help

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If you use ahashpoolplus. The service is down.
Please change back to ahashpool24hr.

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February 17, 2018, 12:57:33 PM
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NemosMiner 2.4.2 goes down when Coinbase API is down....  Logic to use arbitrary BTC value or 'previous value' would help

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If you use ahashpoolplus. The service is down.
Please change back to ahashpool24hr.

delete pool/ashapoolplus.ps1 as well. This will fix your issue.

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February 17, 2018, 05:35:16 PM
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Since thursday evening I started concurrent test between ahashpool and blazepool with 3x GTX 1080 ti.

Currently blazepool is a head by a small margin:

Ahashpool: 0.00421241
Blazepool: 0.00444645

Zergpool is also up again and will continue testing it coming week.
Is that a daily’s income? Or total income since Thursday?!

Its income since Thursday:

Current profit, blazepool margin is increasing:

Ahashpool: 0.00478314
Blazepool: 0.00553579

Just had payout from ahashpool. Might switch the other 3 gpus to blazepool as wel or start testing again with zergpool.

EDIT: I found that on ahashpool it was stuck on mining x17 algo, so it probably was not mining most profitable for atleast 6 hours. Somehow my hashrate got messed up. Probably reason for the bigger difference in profit between ahashpool and blazepool.

are you tested zpool?

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February 17, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
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February 17, 2018, 11:58:55 PM
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Since thursday evening I started concurrent test between ahashpool and blazepool with 3x GTX 1080 ti.

Currently blazepool is a head by a small margin:

Ahashpool: 0.00421241
Blazepool: 0.00444645

Zergpool is also up again and will continue testing it coming week.
Is that a daily’s income? Or total income since Thursday?!

Its income since Thursday:

Current profit, blazepool margin is increasing:

Ahashpool: 0.00478314
Blazepool: 0.00553579

Just had payout from ahashpool. Might switch the other 3 gpus to blazepool as wel or start testing again with zergpool.

EDIT: I found that on ahashpool it was stuck on mining x17 algo, so it probably was not mining most profitable for atleast 6 hours. Somehow my hashrate got messed up. Probably reason for the bigger difference in profit between ahashpool and blazepool.

are you tested zpool?



When I started mining in beginning of januari I started with Zpool. But found that ahashpool was providing way better profit so switched. Dont think I'm going back to zpool any time soon. Rather hope that zergpool or blazepool get more workers and will check those out again in future.
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February 18, 2018, 02:01:25 PM
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When I started mining in beginning of januari I started with Zpool. But found that ahashpool was providing way better profit so switched. Dont think I'm going back to zpool any time soon. Rather hope that zergpool or blazepool get more workers and will check those out again in future.

Depends on where you are located - ahashpool is in Asia somewhere, so ping times will be long from the US - and how much hashrate you have - their 0.01 BTC minimum payout takes way too long to reach with my 6x 1060 rig.

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February 18, 2018, 10:22:53 PM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

NiceHash Pro: Great responsive interface, updates extremely frequently and keeps you up to date on where you are with maturity of profits
NiceHash Con: Doesn't support the more profitable algorithms that AHashPool supports (X17, Phi, Blake2S, etc)



FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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February 18, 2018, 10:55:05 PM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

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Finally one of these multi-algo pools beat NiceHash! Were you using the regular batch file, or the plus one? I've gone back to the regular batch files in NemosMiner 2.4.2 because the other forks and the plus version don't seem to be working right. In fact, I suspect the best approach to managing brief spikes to poll the API more frequently (not good news for the pool operators) and then do a 3 - 9 sample moving average of the profitability figures.

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February 18, 2018, 11:18:26 PM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

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Finally one of these multi-algo pools beat NiceHash! Were you using the regular batch file, or the plus one? I've gone back to the regular batch files in NemosMiner 2.4.2 because the other forks and the plus version don't seem to be working right. In fact, I suspect the best approach to managing brief spikes to poll the API more frequently (not good news for the pool operators) and then do a 3 - 9 sample moving average of the profitability figures.


Plus algo has been dropped by MrPlus at this time because of server load.  He is coding to place the algorithm into NemosMiner so it doesn't depend on an external server brain (ie his server).   Test was conducted using standard ahashpool but I use a 60 second interval with ActiveMinerGainPct 5 and 6 top algos

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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February 19, 2018, 12:02:55 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

NiceHash Pro: Great responsive interface, updates extremely frequently and keeps you up to date on where you are with maturity of profits
NiceHash Con: Doesn't support the more profitable algorithms that AHashPool supports (X17, Phi, Blake2S, etc)




why are you using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 and not the nhm2?
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February 19, 2018, 12:04:59 AM
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Nemo, can you please type up a quick changelog on the first page when you release an update? It's impossible to track or know the differences otherwise. What have you changed/improved between v2.4.1 and v2.4.2?

? Not sure where you've been looking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.msg30312532#msg30312532

https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner-v2.4.2/releases

Well, I'm still waiting for an explanation of what, precisely, this collection of half-assed scripts does, so it's no surprise the first post wasn't updated with a changelog.

And btw, pointing someone to post #3421 and asking rhetorically, "not sure where you've been looking" is kind of a dick move. While we can all fantasize about every one reading 3000+ post threads before asking a question, that's just flatly unrealistic, so let's not pretend otherwise, mmm?


Thank you, MagicSmoker. I still find it extremely tedious that simple things like these feel like painful childbirth for some. No, I do not think that posting a quick changelog in the first post is a difficult thing to do, and no, I do not feel like having to search for one post about a version update several pages back is something that I should be doing. Especially since I haven't followed the thread for a couple of days.
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February 19, 2018, 12:07:37 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

NiceHash Pro: Great responsive interface, updates extremely frequently and keeps you up to date on where you are with maturity of profits
NiceHash Con: Doesn't support the more profitable algorithms that AHashPool supports (X17, Phi, Blake2S, etc)




why are you using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 and not the nhm2?

Legacy is more customizeable.  NHM2 is for total novice no customization...  Legacy allows you to customize.

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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February 19, 2018, 12:13:29 AM
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Hi Nemo,

Have you considered switching the NeoScrypt miner to Justaminer's Hsrminer fork which has a 0% devfee and a working api?

link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2765610.0
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February 19, 2018, 12:34:42 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

NiceHash Pro: Great responsive interface, updates extremely frequently and keeps you up to date on where you are with maturity of profits
NiceHash Con: Doesn't support the more profitable algorithms that AHashPool supports (X17, Phi, Blake2S, etc)




why are you using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 and not the nhm2?

Legacy is more customizeable.  NHM2 is for total novice no customization...  Legacy allows you to customize.

but isn't nhm2 faster / more profitable?
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February 19, 2018, 12:36:26 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

NiceHash Pro: Great responsive interface, updates extremely frequently and keeps you up to date on where you are with maturity of profits
NiceHash Con: Doesn't support the more profitable algorithms that AHashPool supports (X17, Phi, Blake2S, etc)




why are you using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 and not the nhm2?

Legacy is more customizeable.  NHM2 is for total novice no customization...  Legacy allows you to customize.

but isn't nhm2 faster / more profitable?


No, NHM2 is just a front end wrapper, its not any faster or more profitable than their 1.8.1.8

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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February 19, 2018, 01:40:50 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

NiceHash Pro: Great responsive interface, updates extremely frequently and keeps you up to date on where you are with maturity of profits
NiceHash Con: Doesn't support the more profitable algorithms that AHashPool supports (X17, Phi, Blake2S, etc)

Thanks for the testing once again. I'm assuming you didn't load HSRminer or the newest revision of Excavator onto NHML? If you used the default miner (Klaust 8.18 I believe) without any intensity changes, it might be significantly slower than the two I mentioned. Also I believe Lyra2REv2's prone to price manipulation unfortunately.

AHP pumped out some solid numbers; I wonder if the gains were mostly due to the skyrocket in Verge's pricing.
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February 19, 2018, 02:59:12 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018


NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

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Finally one of these multi-algo pools beat NiceHash! Were you using the regular batch file, or the plus one? I've gone back to the regular batch files in NemosMiner 2.4.2 because the other forks and the plus version don't seem to be working right. In fact, I suspect the best approach to managing brief spikes to poll the API more frequently (not good news for the pool operators) and then do a 3 - 9 sample moving average of the profitability figures.


Plus algo has been dropped by MrPlus at this time because of server load.  He is coding to place the algorithm into NemosMiner so it doesn't depend on an external server brain (ie his server).   Test was conducted using standard ahashpool but I use a 60 second interval with ActiveMinerGainPct 5 and 6 top algos

Available here: https://github.com/MrPlusGH/NPlusMiner/releases
Feddback here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2965976.msg30467058#msg30467058

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February 19, 2018, 05:06:10 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018

NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

Tell me please, why in NiceHash you have disabled most of the algorithms? They are not a pool, and pay for what is beneficial to buyers, you have deprived yourself of a part of the possible income. Also,  2.0.1.10 more convenient because it does not waste time in switching customers has the best speed.
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February 19, 2018, 05:48:10 AM
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72 Hour NICEHASH vs AHASHPOOL
Identical 6x1070ti rigs - 2/15/2018 4pm to 2/18/2018

NiceHash  : 0.00435638 BTC using NiceHashMiner Legacy 1.8.1.8 hashing Equihash, neoscrypt, Lyra2REv2
AHashPool: 0.005000578465575 BTC using NemosMiner 2.4.2 hashing phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s

Tell me please, why in NiceHash you have disabled most of the algorithms? They are not a pool, and pay for what is beneficial to buyers, you have deprived yourself of a part of the possible income. Also,  2.0.1.10 more convenient because it does not waste time in switching customers has the best speed.

I didn't disable ANY algorithms in NiceHash.  The 3 listed are the only algorithms NiceHash decided were the most profitable, 90% of the time it mined Equihash.

Updating any neoscrypt miner would have been useless since 90% of the time it mined Equihash.  It mined very little Neoscrypt.  The fact remains that the profitability of the algorithms NiceHash offers are 15-20% lower than the profitability of the algorithms on AHashPool at this point in time.

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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February 19, 2018, 02:03:45 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2018, 03:54:03 PM by MagicSmoker
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Under what circumstances does this script - that is, 2.4.2 - decide to redo all its benchmarks (besides there not being any *profit.txt files in the Stats folder)?

I've been alternating between 2.4.2 and the MrPlus fork to see if they both chose the same algo as most profitable and now my 2.4.2 install decided it needed to redo all the benchmarks!?!

Oh, one other thing to consider in future releases is that both Lyra2v2 and Neoscrypt require considerable time to get up to speed on multi-GPU rigs. I am manually running ccminer-polytimos - the same one used by NemosMiner - on my 6x 1060 rig right now and it took about 20 minutes to get up to its max speed of 150 MH/s, after starting out at 100 MH/s.

EDIT - and I found a MAJOR bug - if an algo/port which is normally available on a pool has been disabled and NemosMiner attempts to benchmark it the command output for the stratum connection is blank and the miner hangs or exits back to the powershell prompt. Might want to do a cursory check of port availability before attempting to benchmark. For example, Phi is not available right now on Zpool and benchmarking just failed. I believe this is what happened to me with the Timetravel algo a few days ago.

EDIT2 - and it just crashed with a weird entry in the miner.log file: "Account Suspended". Since I don't know if this is an issue with Zpool or NemosMiner I posted about it in the Zpool thread first: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1751272.msg30623787#msg30623787
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