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Author Topic: [NemosMiner] multi algo profit switching NVIDIA/CPU miner  (Read 289397 times)
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February 27, 2018, 10:23:53 PM
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>>120 interval (instead of 60)
where to set it?


startahashpoolplus.bat you will see a 60 value, change to 120

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
AntMiner S9 13.5TH / AntMiner L3+ x 2
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February 27, 2018, 10:25:54 PM
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AHashPool beats NiceHash just by the pure fact that NiceHash most profitable algo is equihash and neoscrypt, while AHashPool has X17 and a few others that have been consistently 15-25% more profitable.  Compare 24 hr actual API data from ahashpool & nicehash to see that if you calculate what your rig can do on X17 it can actually make more BTC for you over NiceHash mining equihash.

>>AHashPool beats NiceHash
^^^^^ imho it's your fanstasies, but lets test.

We are talking about zpool... It's not profitable under nemosminer?
I'm ready to test ahashpool. Teach me which algos to enable and which .bat use. ahashpool /  ahashpool24hr / ahashpoolPlus ?

Im try to 7h test NPlusMiner - approx $ 14.91531086 / day, disappointing result.

I tried a 1.5 week long test a while back comparing nicehash vs ahash vs hash refinery. Nice hash came out on top by quite a bit. Obviously there are a lot of variables in play but it's still worth considering to do your own research. I personally just use mining calculators and evaluate if the algorithms not represented by nicehash (x17, phi, xevan, tribus) are significantly more profitable than multi-algo pools. The estimates at ahash and zpool are pretty inflated to be honest, I'd estimate they are off by 25% when calculating against the bitcoin you actually receive.

I'll rerun the NH vs ahashpool (this time plus) test again after I meet my minimum on ahash.

Shouldn't be using estimates... Look at 24 hour actual values instead.  Hopefully you are testing with 3 identical rigs running concurrently and using ahashpoolplus with nplusminer 1.3

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
AntMiner S9 13.5TH / AntMiner L3+ x 2
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February 27, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
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>>120 interval (instead of 60)
where to set it?


startahashpoolplus.bat you will see a 60 value, change to 120

what to change?! script output?
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February 27, 2018, 10:33:15 PM
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>>120 interval (instead of 60)
where to set it?


startahashpoolplus.bat you will see a 60 value, change to 120

what to change?! script output?


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-interval 60

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
AntMiner S9 13.5TH / AntMiner L3+ x 2
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February 27, 2018, 10:38:46 PM
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I have tested with Sniffdog, NemosMiner and MegaMiner.

I have tried Multi Algo switch, and also to mine only a single algorithm.

I have tried in a single pool and I have also tried looking for the benefit in several pools (Ahash, Zpool, Zerg, Blaze ...)

In all cases Nicehash is more profitable. All pools lie with estimates, and that is the problem. If the mining software uses this false data, we are earning less than NiceHash.

With the pools you earn less. NiceHash pays more. Whoever says otherwise, lies.
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Last edit: February 28, 2018, 02:43:07 AM by Gelik
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Run it.
https://prnt.sc/ikmyt7

startahashpoolplus.bat:
powershell -version 5.0 -noexit -executionpolicy bypass -windowstyle maximized -command "&.\NemosMinerv2.5.ps1 -SelGPUDSTM '0 1 2 3 4 5 6' -SelGPUCC '0,1,2,3,4,5,6' -Currency USD -Passwordcurrency BTC -UIStyle Full -Wallet ********************* -Location US -ActiveMinerGainPct 3 -PoolName ahashpoolplus -WorkerName ID=NemosMinerv2.5 -interval 60 -Type nvidia -Algorithm xevan,tribus,c11,skein,x17,Nist5,Lyra2RE2,neoscrypt,blake2s,skunk

brainconfig.xml:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
-<Objs xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/powershell/2004/04" Version="1.1.0.1">
-<Obj RefId="0">
-<TN RefId="0">
<T>System.Management.Automation.PSCustomObject</T>
<T>System.Object</T>
</TN>
-<MS>
<I32 N="SampleSizeMinutes">60</I32>
<I32 N="TrendSpanSizeMinutes">30</I32>
<I32 N="SampleHalfPower">0</I32>
<I32 N="ManualPriceFactor">1</I32>
<I32 N="Interval">120</I32>
<B N="EnableLog">false</B>
<S N="LogDataPath">.\BrainMemory-zpool.csv</S>
<S N="TransferFile">.\zpoolplus.json</S>
<S N="PoolName">zpool</S>
<S N="PoolStatusUri">http://www.zpool.ca/api/status</S>
</MS>
</Obj>
</Objs>

start screen:
https://prnt.sc/iknb6i

BTC earned before: 0.00040657
Time is  02/28/2018 01:40:00

ADD:
40 minutes left, x17/skein looking more profitable, but nemos continue to mine lyra2v2
https://prnt.sc/iknqqx
ADD:
1 hour had passed. Total earned == 0.00047840. Approx profit ~ $18.36/d. Whattomine: Nicehash/equihash based on 24h is $19.38
2 hours has passed. Total earned == 0.00053755. Approx profit ~$16.74/d.
3 hours has passed. Total earned == 0.00057768. Approx profit ~$8.48/d. Just...LOL.
https://image.prntscr.com/image/2KECQUobRumEZYBhKjdfHQ.png
X17 rule? Not sure
Last 50:


Verge (x17)   1.230632 XVG   0.08%   0.00000662   9m ago   Immature (12/140)
SHIELD (x17)   0.124838 XSH   0.10%   0.00000045   12m ago   Immature (8/260)
SHIELD (x17)   0.111031 XSH   0.09%   0.0000004   12m ago   Immature (9/260)
Verge (x17)   1.303743 XVG   0.08%   0.00000699   22m ago   Immature (33/140)
Verge (x17)   1.307842 XVG   0.08%   0.00000702   23m ago   Immature (35/140)
Verge (x17)   0.732188 XVG   0.05%   0.00000393   24m ago   Immature (40/140)
Verge (x17)   0.260091 XVG   0.02%   0.0000014   27m ago   Immature (47/140)
Verge (x17)   0.320024 XVG   0.02%   0.00000172   29m ago   Immature (51/140)
Verge (x17)   0.833024 XVG   0.05%   0.00000446   39m ago   Immature (69/140)
Verge (x17)   1.230943 XVG   0.08%   0.00000658   45m ago   Immature (75/140)
Verge (x17)   1.378470 XVG   0.09%   0.00000738   52m ago   Immature (91/140)
SHIELD (x17)   0.065852 XSH   0.05%   0.00000024   67m ago   Immature (66/260)
SHIELD (x17)   0.116280 XSH   0.09%   0.00000043   68m ago   Immature (67/260)
Digibyte (skein)   0.597930 DGB   0.08%   0.00000194   81m ago   Exchange
Verge (x17)   1.422570 XVG   0.09%   0.00000763   82m ago   Exchange
Verge (x17)   0.660377 XVG   0.04%   0.00000353   88m ago   Exchange
Verge (x17)   0.797895 XVG   0.05%   0.00000426   88m ago   Exchange
Verge (x17)   0.295794 XVG   0.02%   0.00000158   89m ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.013868 AUR   0.56%   0.00000223   99m ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.179031 UIS   0.66%   0.00000064   101m ago   Immature (106/181)
Digibyte (skein)   4.362392 DGB   0.55%   0.00001422   107m ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.182919 UIS   0.68%   0.00000065   107m ago   Immature (110/181)
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.014277 AUR   0.57%   0.00000229   111m ago   Exchange
Digibyte (skein)   1.040357 DGB   0.13%   0.00000339   116m ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.004079 AUR   0.16%   0.00000065   2h ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.128015 UIS   0.47%   0.00000045   2h ago   Immature (116/181)
Unitus (skein)   0.073630 UIS   0.27%   0.00000026   2h ago   Immature (118/181)
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.004694 AUR   0.19%   0.00000075   2h ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.124898 UIS   0.46%   0.00000044   2h ago   Immature (119/181)
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.004908 AUR   0.20%   0.00000079   2h ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.128806 UIS   0.48%   0.00000046   2h ago   Immature (120/181)
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.004809 AUR   0.19%   0.00000077   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.005665 AUR   0.23%   0.00000091   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.008814 AUR   0.35%   0.00000142   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.008584 AUR   0.34%   0.00000138   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.010693 AUR   0.43%   0.00000172   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.012335 AUR   0.49%   0.00000198   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.012792 AUR   0.51%   0.00000205   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.004946 AUR   0.20%   0.00000079   2h ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.076621 UIS   0.28%   0.00000027   2h ago   Immature (129/181)
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.002492 AUR   0.10%   0.0000004   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.002576 AUR   0.10%   0.00000041   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.002524 AUR   0.10%   0.00000041   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.002922 AUR   0.12%   0.00000047   2h ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.080398 UIS   0.30%   0.00000029   2h ago   Immature (133/181)
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.002960 AUR   0.12%   0.00000048   2h ago   Exchange
Mona (lyra2v2)   0.003997 MONA   0.02%   0.00000192   2h ago   Immature (90/101)
Digibyte (skein)   0.887336 DGB   0.11%   0.00000286   2h ago   Exchange
AuroraCoin (skein)   0.002903 AUR   0.12%   0.00000047   2h ago   Exchange
Unitus (skein)   0.077331 UIS   0.29%   0.00000027   2h ago   Immature (137/181)




To make profit need to retrieve lost first and I don't believe nemos+ahashpool able to do so. I don't know, how more hours I can stand it, going to sleep now.
Look at X17.
API: {"name":"x17","port":3737,"coins":2,"fees":1,"hashrate":80738047757,"workers":1688,
"estimate_current":"0.00002363",
"estimate_last24h":"0.00002372",
"actual_last24h":"0.01926",
"hashrate_last24h":98560301723.073}

Nemos:
Miner                Algorithm       Speed mBTC/Day BTC/Day USD/Day BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----                ---------       ----- -------- ------- ------- ---------- ----
ccminerpolytimos     X17        98,78 MH/s    2,299 0,00230  24,715    0,02327 ahashpoolplus-
ccminerpolytimos     Lyra2RE2  363,49 MH/s    2,037 0,00204  21,897    0,00560 ahashpoolplus-
CcminerAlexis78cuda9 Xevan      29,30 MH/s    1,883 0,00188  20,238    0,06424 ahashpoolplus-
ccminerpolytimos     Nist5     426,06 MH/s    1,667 0,00167  17,925    0,00391 ahashpoolplus-
ccminerpolytimos     Skein       4,87 GH/s    1,551 0,00155  16,671    0,00032 ahashpoolplus-
CcminerTpruvotcuda9  Tribus    506,16 MH/s    1,465 0,00147  15,750    0,00289 ahashpoolplus-
ccminerpolytimos     C11       148,26 MH/s    1,350 0,00135  14,516    0,00911 ahashpoolplus-
HSRminer             NeoScrypt   6,86 MH/s    1,273 0,00127  13,681    0,18546 ahashpoolplus-
ccminerpolytimos     Blake2s    36,16 GH/s    0,958 0,00096  10,298    0,00003 ahashpoolplus-
CcminerTpruvot       Skunk     268,27 MH/s    0,947 0,00095  10,176    0,00353 ahashpoolplus-


https://ahashpool.com/:
https://image.prntscr.com/image/Zh98yvp3R0ixd-JFAueyMA.png
So, ahashpool API - LIE
Main question: What's that to do with me???!!!!

"Use our great tool to maximize profit" -  implemented. (with fee)
"Don't use zpool, use ahash" - implemented.
"Use recommended algo set" - implemented.
"Use smart switching policy" - implemented.

Result? I loose money. It's not pacman game guys, it's real money.
If you are whish to receive donate/fee - DON"T TRUST POOLS API. Use web extract or coinz (whattomine) API.


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February 27, 2018, 10:55:02 PM
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AHashPool beats NiceHash just by the pure fact that NiceHash most profitable algo is equihash and neoscrypt, while AHashPool has X17 and a few others that have been consistently 15-25% more profitable.  Compare 24 hr actual API data from ahashpool & nicehash to see that if you calculate what your rig can do on X17 it can actually make more BTC for you over NiceHash mining equihash.

>>AHashPool beats NiceHash
^^^^^ imho it's your fanstasies, but lets test.

We are talking about zpool... It's not profitable under nemosminer?
I'm ready to test ahashpool. Teach me which algos to enable and which .bat use. ahashpool /  ahashpool24hr / ahashpoolPlus ?

Im try to 7h test NPlusMiner - approx $ 14.91531086 / day, disappointing result.

I tried a 1.5 week long test a while back comparing nicehash vs ahash vs hash refinery. Nice hash came out on top by quite a bit. Obviously there are a lot of variables in play but it's still worth considering to do your own research. I personally just use mining calculators and evaluate if the algorithms not represented by nicehash (x17, phi, xevan, tribus) are significantly more profitable than multi-algo pools. The estimates at ahash and zpool are pretty inflated to be honest, I'd estimate they are off by 25% when calculating against the bitcoin you actually receive.

I'll rerun the NH vs ahashpool (this time plus) test again after I meet my minimum on ahash.

Shouldn't be using estimates... Look at 24 hour actual values instead.  Hopefully you are testing with 3 identical rigs running concurrently and using ahashpoolplus with nplusminer 1.3

I ran pretty much that exact test in January with 1060s and despite what actual 24 hour actual values show (actual 24hr in awesome miner had ahash > HR > NH), the net bitcoin in my wallet with NH was greater than either multi-algo pool. Variables change over time and I'm interested if the rise of X17 and other algorithms like xevan, tribus, etc., make any difference in profitability. According to WTM and other calculators, it shouldn't make a significant difference. Or 1060s don't gain as much from other algorithms as compared to other cards that may make up the difference.


Both rigs 7x 1060 gb with micron ram with same +175/500 overclock. Intensity for each algorithm is the same as well.

NH with AM using current profitability with 5% profit difference and 10 minute interval: ethash with phoenix, equihash DSTM, neoscrypt with HSR, polytimos for NIST/Lyra2rev2.  
Nemos + ahashpoolplus: xevan, tribus, skein, x17, Nist5, Lyra2RE2, neoscrypt, blake2s, skunk.

What interval and %difference to trigger an algorithm change should I use under ahashplus?

Anyone else want to chime in?
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February 28, 2018, 02:41:40 AM
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AHashPool beats NiceHash just by the pure fact that NiceHash most profitable algo is equihash and neoscrypt, while AHashPool has X17 and a few others that have been consistently 15-25% more profitable.  Compare 24 hr actual API data from ahashpool & nicehash to see that if you calculate what your rig can do on X17 it can actually make more BTC for you over NiceHash mining equihash.

>>AHashPool beats NiceHash
^^^^^ imho it's your fanstasies, but lets test.

We are talking about zpool... It's not profitable under nemosminer?
I'm ready to test ahashpool. Teach me which algos to enable and which .bat use. ahashpool /  ahashpool24hr / ahashpoolPlus ?

Im try to 7h test NPlusMiner - approx $ 14.91531086 / day, disappointing result.

-Algorithm xevan,tribus,c11,sib,x17,Nist5,Lyra2RE2,neoscrypt,blake2s,skunk
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February 28, 2018, 03:49:31 AM
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FULL 12 RIG 72 GPU NICEHASH TEST

Ok guys, I've switched one entire farm (72 GPUs, 12 rigs) over to NiceHash (2.0.1.11) - 48 HOUR TEST!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/vNodg

Last 3 Payouts on AHashPool (Use to be 0.021 at its peak)
19h ago   0.01532754   330b3de0606d1257621e51301da726f8ca02...
43h ago   0.01419105   87ce1e684a440868ea347bcde8766b5ac7f8...
2d ago   0.01409336   67db48c92b113c2c98fc62461144ad8399bd...

Lets see how it plays out compared to my AHashPoolPlus 62 GPU Farm

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
AntMiner S9 13.5TH / AntMiner L3+ x 2
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February 28, 2018, 04:05:18 AM
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FULL 12 RIG 72 GPU NICEHASH TEST

Ok guys, I've switched one entire farm (72 GPUs, 12 rigs) over to NiceHash (2.0.1.11) - 48 HOUR TEST!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/vNodg

Last 3 Payouts on AHashPool (Use to be 0.021 at its peak)
19h ago   0.01532754   330b3de0606d1257621e51301da726f8ca02...
43h ago   0.01419105   87ce1e684a440868ea347bcde8766b5ac7f8...
2d ago   0.01409336   67db48c92b113c2c98fc62461144ad8399bd...

Lets see how it plays out compared to my AHashPoolPlus 62 GPU Farm

How about running the 72 GPU farm on NiceHash for 48 hours and then on AHashPoolPlus for 48 hours?
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February 28, 2018, 04:32:40 AM
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FULL 12 RIG 72 GPU NICEHASH TEST

Ok guys, I've switched one entire farm (72 GPUs, 12 rigs) over to NiceHash (2.0.1.11) - 48 HOUR TEST!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/vNodg

Last 3 Payouts on AHashPool (Use to be 0.021 at its peak)
19h ago   0.01532754   330b3de0606d1257621e51301da726f8ca02...
43h ago   0.01419105   87ce1e684a440868ea347bcde8766b5ac7f8...
2d ago   0.01409336   67db48c92b113c2c98fc62461144ad8399bd...

Lets see how it plays out compared to my AHashPoolPlus 62 GPU Farm

How about running the 72 GPU farm on NiceHash for 48 hours and then on AHashPoolPlus for 48 hours?

You have to run exact same builds at the exact same time on each platform to have any kind of accurate results.   Roll Eyes
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February 28, 2018, 05:03:23 AM
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FULL 12 RIG 72 GPU NICEHASH TEST

Ok guys, I've switched one entire farm (72 GPUs, 12 rigs) over to NiceHash (2.0.1.11) - 48 HOUR TEST!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/vNodg

Last 3 Payouts on AHashPool (Use to be 0.021 at its peak)
19h ago   0.01532754   330b3de0606d1257621e51301da726f8ca02...
43h ago   0.01419105   87ce1e684a440868ea347bcde8766b5ac7f8...
2d ago   0.01409336   67db48c92b113c2c98fc62461144ad8399bd...

Lets see how it plays out compared to my AHashPoolPlus 62 GPU Farm

How about running the 72 GPU farm on NiceHash for 48 hours and then on AHashPoolPlus for 48 hours?

You have to run exact same builds at the exact same time on each platform to have any kind of accurate results.   Roll Eyes

You're correct for best results.. but doesn't look like the two farms are the same.. one 72 and one 62... maybe he has some rigs that are the same and could run the test on smaller scale.
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February 28, 2018, 06:12:55 AM
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@nemo

due to changes in payment terms on ahashpool (https://www.ahashpool.com), What changes must be made to the file "NemosMinerv2.5.1.ps1" to display the payment date for 0.005 0.008 BTC?
"....Payouts are made automatically every 24 hours for all balances above 0.008 BTC. We will occassionally payout balances above 0.005 approximately every ~10 days at our discretion conditional on that the network is not congested."


Try changing line 9 of EarningsTracker.ps1 (maybe EarningsTrackerJob.ps1 too) from:
 
[Float]$PaymentThreshold = 0.01,

to:

[Float]$PaymentThreshold = 0.008,

I can't access my rigs at the moment but will try this myself in about 12 hours.
Dont work(((
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February 28, 2018, 07:51:48 AM
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the balance of ahashpool is always disabled, how to enable it?
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February 28, 2018, 08:54:30 AM
Last edit: February 28, 2018, 09:10:11 AM by legendary13
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when Nemos switching in one algo between pools he does not calculating Gainpct and switch same algo between pools very often. Am i right?
and I want to ask Nemo if hi can:
do calculating  REAL PROFIT for the time of running Nemosminer.
And make calculations POOL FEES = ((ESTIMATED PROFIT - REAL PROFIT)/ESTIMATED PROFIT)*100
And add support of excavator miner pls...
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February 28, 2018, 09:01:13 AM
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nicehash:-) works at a loss. is gaining momentum. and then you will be deceived
the minimum guaranteed payout is 0.1 btc!!
https://www.nicehash.com/help/when-and-how-do-you-get-paid?lang=en
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February 28, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
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>>FULL 12 RIG 72 GPU NICEHASH TEST

Need money? Wink

My testing is continuing.

12:00, 10.3333(3) hours from start.
https://image.prntscr.com/image/j9hZDb0iR5edVSWDf-XaZg.png
approx. profit $15.14 / d (0.00143105517909BTC). It's still too low for this rig.
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February 28, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
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FULL 12 RIG 72 GPU NICEHASH TEST
What type of tool do you use to manage and monitor that amount of nemosminer instances?
I have seen you are switching very often your miner versions and settings.
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February 28, 2018, 11:52:38 AM
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My testing is continuing.
Please show graph "Interactive history" and "Mining stats".

Approx 14 x 1070 needed for mine 102k sat at 10.33 hours.

MindMiner - miner manager programm with autoswitch between Algos&Pools.
This isnt a fork based on MultiPoolMiner (Nemos, SniffDog, Mega, NPlus & etc)
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February 28, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
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My testing is continuing.
Please show graph "Interactive history" and "Mining stats".

Approx 14 x 1070 needed for mine 102k sat at 10.33 hours.

BTC earned before test start: 0.00040657 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.msg31219781#msg31219781)
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