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April 30, 2014, 09:25:31 PM


very boring day for a bitcoin price isn't?

I was hoping for some rally Smiley or at least other way - 420...

But nothing from those came to me.
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April 30, 2014, 09:27:05 PM

i gotta say im still quite convinced about that :

Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

you guys that seem not to agree didnt come up with as much material to support your point of view. Tongue
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April 30, 2014, 09:27:28 PM

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tl;dr Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

Not sure I'm getting this^  Are you suggesting things were going fine, traffic was flowing perfectly, no accidents, and then ...people all over the globe decided "Must make traffic lights, that would be fun..."  Orgone mind control by our Lizard Overlords?
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April 30, 2014, 09:31:14 PM

trainspotting: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-30/train-derails-lynchburg-massive-fire-erupts-flames-stories-high



Thursday is traditional dump day. As it coincides with a commie holiday, we might see an early sale today. or a rally. I have no idea. Dyslexic workers of the world, Untie!

I don't really like that word, "commie" b/c it seems to carry with it a lot of unnecessary baggage... maybe it is my own negative experience that is tainting my reaction?

It's an intentional pejorative. Collectivism is fine as long as it's voluntary, but it almost never is. Most collectivists explicitly aim to gain enough power to forcibly impose their policies on everyone. In the name of freedom, of course.

There is NO real problem with making points and even exaggerating various points.  However, frequently, I believe that exaggerated points are better made, if they are NOT strewn into SO MANY sentences.... 

Well, that may be your style...  like YOU WANT TO WRITE in ALL CAPS.... he he he...  Cheesy
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April 30, 2014, 09:35:52 PM

in bitcoinwisdom, we can choose "candlestick" or "candlestickHLC"  Does anyone know the difference?  Coinhamster: you are saying that candlestickHLC is explanation 1, but then what is "candlestick"?


=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190722.300
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April 30, 2014, 09:40:00 PM

pure example of why control and centralisation is useless and can be avoided with minimum harm:



http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2014/04/pas-besoin-de-rond-point.gif

Blind luck? You can't really call a roundabout centralisation.
Not the best example of subsidiarity since I'm guessing quite a few people have ended up in hospital on that road. Just not in the ~20 frames of that gif.

Funny thing is, at least traffic is moving.





no this is stupid as shit

it would flow much better if organized

i can;t believe this shit

Actually, take a look at this: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~aim/oldsim/

Play around with the simulation to get a feel for it.

Multiagent Traffic Management:
A Reservation-Based Intersection Control Mechanism

Traffic Light - cars must obey the traffic signals. Using this system, cars are delayed by an average of 9.45 seconds relative to how quickly they could travel without an intersection present.The traffic light has these parameters:

    Period: 30 seconds
    Alpha (fraction of period the light is green in the East/West direction): .45
    Beta (fraction of period the light is red in all directions between greens): .05

Reservation System - cars can reserve time slots in the intersection. The granularity of the reservation system for this simulation is 4 (i.e. the system consists of a 4 x 4 grid of reservation tiles). Using this system, cars are delayed an average of 0.076 seconds - significantly less than when using a traffic light.


tl;dr Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

trying to get me to run java code ah... no way! lol

idk man I think I'd rather wait 10 seconds then have to face that *lets cut everyone off because we want to get to where we are going* intersection  

edit: ok if i save over 60 seconds it might be worth it.
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April 30, 2014, 09:53:42 PM



problem solved!
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April 30, 2014, 10:00:51 PM


Explanation
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April 30, 2014, 10:04:29 PM

More traffic light porn: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/19959187.jpg
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April 30, 2014, 10:07:21 PM

pretty sure this is it, in the next few hours 450 resistance will become support
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April 30, 2014, 10:08:51 PM

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trying to get me to run java code ah... no way! lol

idk man I think I'd rather wait 10 seconds then have to face that *lets cut everyone off because we want to get to where we are going* intersection  

edit: ok if i save over 60 seconds it might be worth it.

Let me say I didn't manage to actually RUN the simulation. Chrome does not know Java is installed, tried installing it from Chrome's install link and nothing. Opera, Firefox and IE(!) know it's installed but is apparently blocked by some security setting SOMEWHERE because the code isn't signed. (IE didn't even know that, only reported SecurityException's). Found the option in Java settings (Control Panel, i know i know) and set it to "lowest" which apparently means only a allow/block prompt for unsigned code. Now none of the browsers is able to put the goddam parameters in the applet so I get some "height = 0" exception. What the fuck, man? Is Java completely dead like ActiveX already?

To each their own, that's 10 seconds (more in practice) for every intersection you ever drive through. It adds up. Also, I'm much more annoyed by traffic lights waiting than, say, crowded and slowish traffic.

EDIT: to continue the circle jerk with an actual example of real and not simulated traffic light masturbation

http://www.ziarmm.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/semafor-stupid-gold-plaza-baia-mare.jpg
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April 30, 2014, 10:13:29 PM

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trying to get me to run java code ah... no way! lol

idk man I think I'd rather wait 10 seconds then have to face that *lets cut everyone off because we want to get to where we are going* intersection  

edit: ok if i save over 60 seconds it might be worth it.

Let me say I didn't manage to actually RUN the simulation. Chrome does not know Java is installed, tried installing it from Chrome's install link and nothing. Opera, Firefox and IE(!) know it's installed but is apparently blocked by some security setting SOMEWHERE because the code isn't signed. (IE didn't even know that, only reported SecurityException's). Found the option in Java settings (Control Panel, i know i know) and set it to "lowest" which apparently means only a allow/block prompt for unsigned code. Now none of the browsers is able to put the goddam parameters in the applet so I get some "height = 0" exception. What the fuck, man? Is Java completely dead like ActiveX already?

To each their own, that's 10 seconds (more in practice) for every intersection you ever drive through. It adds up. Also, I'm much more annoyed by traffic lights waiting than, say, crowded and slowish traffic.
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disable java NOW
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April 30, 2014, 10:20:56 PM


Relax, I'm running a usable Windows 7 in a vBox on unusable Debian. That's the spirit. If you respect real security practices, you only browse with Lynx on handmade hardware Wink
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April 30, 2014, 10:22:29 PM

pretty sure this is it, in the next few hours 450 resistance will become support

Is your strategy to keep saying it all the way down until the inevitable time when you are correct?  Tongue
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April 30, 2014, 10:24:42 PM

pretty sure this is it, in the next few hours 450 resistance will become support

Is your strategy to keep saying it all the way down until the inevitable time when you are correct?  Tongue

never fails
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April 30, 2014, 10:26:21 PM


Relax, I'm running a usable Windows 7 in a vBox on unusable Debian. That's the spirit. If you respect real security practices, you only browse with Lynx on handmade hardware Wink

thats pretty bad ass.
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April 30, 2014, 10:26:44 PM

pretty sure this is it, in the next few hours 450 resistance will become support

Is your strategy to keep saying it all the way down until the inevitable time when you are correct?  Tongue

never fails

Then of course the classic follow-up: "called it!"
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April 30, 2014, 10:30:39 PM

i gotta say im still quite convinced about that :

Decentralized autonomous traffic can be much more efficient than traffic lights.

you guys that seem not to agree didnt come up with as much material to support your point of view. Tongue

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April 30, 2014, 10:31:53 PM


wow Smiley how do they know which light is for them ? Smiley

Really hard to drive there...

and back to the topic Smiley I see price went up a bit which is really good.
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April 30, 2014, 10:32:27 PM

"autonomous traffic"

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