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Please elaborate, specifically.
I'll try We shouldn't hold any grudges against most Classic supporters and welcome them back in as our temporarily lost brothers in an act of solidarity.
The inverse of this sentence is that there are some bitcoiners who are not welcome any more in the community. There is also an appeal to solidarity and forgiveness towards those who were "mislead" into "false" beliefs. Those who genuinely betrayed the collective needs to be punished, those who simply were mislead will be forgiven. Unfortunately, I believe this drama will only temporarily go away. There were indeed many genuine XT/UL/Classic supporters but there were also many shills/trolls/ agent provocateurs supporting a contentious HF. Bitcoin is competing/undermining against some of the most powerful states and corporations and we should prepare for a vicious and difficult fight ahead. Here you claim that even though the storm may seem to have passed, evil actors are still active among our midst. These evil actors are backed by evil constellations and thus deserve no sympathy whatsoever. You point out the traits by which they can be identified as a passive encouragement to them being identified and punished by the collective. At the end you even actively encourage people to "prepare for a vicious and difficult fight ahead". Part of this is educating people towards the true principles of bitcoin, as many are still advocating code be written under the governance of democracy which would be tragic and goes against our current meritocracy consensus based development framework. As we grow our ecosystem this will remain a constant challenge we must overcome as most humans have been programmed to believe democracy is the best form of governance available.
Then you reiterate the dogma of the one and only way forward and basically warn against the horrors of the peoples rule and independent thought in the collective. To top it off you sound an alarm of the struggles of the future and promote eternal vigilance in the collective. This rhetoric is used regularly among collectivist populist authoritarian regimes to signal a purge in the population and maintain discipline. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:18:46 PM |
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Fatman3001
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February 11, 2016, 03:20:37 PM |
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The main advantages of Ethereum over Bitcoin is that people in control are qualified and expected to not screw everything, unlike Core people.
You must be oblivious to the development crisis's and mistakes in Ethereum and the flight of developers from that project. I think its main advantage could be that the founder of the project is still there and functions as a "natural consensus". Also its good that his identity is known.Apart from that ETH could get the same problems and civilwars that Bitcoin is experiencing. Good point. All this cultist crap around Satoshi is not healthy. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:25:28 PM |
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Then you reiterate the dogma of the one and only way forward and basically warn against the horrors of the peoples rule and independent thought in the collective. To top it off you sound an alarm of the struggles of the future and promote eternal vigilance in the collective.
This rhetoric is used regularly among collectivist populist authoritarian regimes to signal a purge in the population and maintain discipline.
You appear to be seriously confused about general anarchist thought. I am perfectly happy living and working besides other people with different politics and belief systems. If my neighbor to the left wants to start up a communist collective and not use currency, fine. If my neighbor to the right wants to live as a slave under a tyrannical government willingly ,** shudder**.... but fine ....There is a a difference between letting my opinion being known and imposing my opinions on others with violence and coercion. I do have a problem with people supporting and paying for the murder , torture and kidnapping of innocent non -violent people and will defend them if necessary. Good point.
All this cultist crap around Satoshi is not healthy.
From a developer perspective Satoshi is irrelevant. All of the prominent core devs are known and very transparent and bitcoin is open source. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
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Broken link 404 error  sry, try nao! |
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February 11, 2016, 03:26:44 PM |
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The main advantages of Ethereum over Bitcoin is that people in control are qualified and expected to not screw everything, unlike Core people.
You must be oblivious to the development crisis's and mistakes in Ethereum and the flight of developers from that project. I think its main advantage could be that the founder of the project is still there and functions as a "natural consensus". Also its good that his identity is known.Apart from that ETH could get the same problems and civilwars that Bitcoin is experiencing. Good point. All this cultist crap around Satoshi is not healthy. Have to admit sometimes it's a bit worrying... "Hey what if we do that" "Satoshi didn't invent bitcoin for that" "Yeah but that would be cool no?" "It's not what Satoshi wanted" Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh... |
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February 11, 2016, 03:29:16 PM |
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The main advantages of Ethereum over Bitcoin is that people in control are qualified and expected to not screw everything, unlike Core people.
You must be oblivious to the development crisis's and mistakes in Ethereum and the flight of developers from that project. I think its main advantage could be that the founder of the project is still there and functions as a "natural consensus". Also its good that his identity is known.Apart from that ETH could get the same problems and civilwars that Bitcoin is experiencing. Good point. All this cultist crap around Satoshi is not healthy. Have to admit sometimes it's a bit worrying... "Hey what if we do that" "Satoshi didn't invent bitcoin for that" "Yeah but that would be cool no?" "It's not what Satoshi wanted" Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh... Who cares who the inventor of the protocol is. The fact that we've gotten this far without him is proof that we can go even further. You don't see Étienne Lenoir improving the gasoline engine nowadays and pulling the strings what could and could not be implemented. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:29:37 PM |
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Then you reiterate the dogma of the one and only way forward and basically warn against the horrors of the peoples rule and independent thought in the collective. To top it off you sound an alarm of the struggles of the future and promote eternal vigilance in the collective.
This rhetoric is used regularly among collectivist populist authoritarian regimes to signal a purge in the population and maintain discipline.
You appear to be seriously confused about general anarchist thought. ... Which "general anarchist thought" would that be?  Tightest definition of anarchism yet: authority/daddy issues. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:31:46 PM |
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Which "general anarchist thought" would that be?
You are trying to pigeon hole complex philosophies into a category.... but if you insist, principally agorsim and anarcho capitalism, but I am friendly to and have lived in many other types of anarchist collectives as well. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:39:08 PM |
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February 11, 2016, 03:43:32 PM |
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Which "general anarchist thought" would that be?
You are trying to pigeon hole complex philosophies into a category.... but if you insist, principally agorsim and anarcho capitalism, but I am friendly to and have lived in many other types of anarchist collectives as well. Lol, I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "general anarchist thought"  >lived in many other types of anarchist collectives as well. Which one are you living in now, and in whose mom's basement/under which highway overpass is it located? |
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February 11, 2016, 03:43:58 PM |
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Please elaborate, specifically.
I'll try We shouldn't hold any grudges against most Classic supporters and welcome them back in as our temporarily lost brothers in an act of solidarity.
The inverse of this sentence is that there are some bitcoiners who are not welcome any more in the community. There is also an appeal to solidarity and forgiveness towards those who were "mislead" into "false" beliefs. Those who genuinely betrayed the collective needs to be punished, those who simply were mislead will be forgiven.this is all starting to sound kinda cultish . #GimpedCoin |
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February 11, 2016, 03:45:25 PM |
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What are you doing here? you're trying to talk about trading and btc price? Hey! Here it's not a thread for that! It's a thread for... Oh wait... |
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February 11, 2016, 03:45:36 PM |
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The main advantages of Ethereum over Bitcoin is that people in control are qualified and expected to not screw everything, unlike Core people.
You must be oblivious to the development crisis's and mistakes in Ethereum and the flight of developers from that project. I think its main advantage could be that the founder of the project is still there and functions as a "natural consensus". Also its good that his identity is known.Apart from that ETH could get the same problems and civilwars that Bitcoin is experiencing. Good point. All this cultist crap around Satoshi is not healthy. wait.. wut ?? Satoshi is a cult.... #GimpedCoin |
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February 11, 2016, 03:46:23 PM |
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this is all starting to sound kinda cultish . #GimpedCoin
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February 11, 2016, 03:54:46 PM |
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The main advantages of Ethereum over Bitcoin is that people in control are qualified and expected to not screw everything, unlike Core people.
You must be oblivious to the development crisis's and mistakes in Ethereum and the flight of developers from that project. I think its main advantage could be that the founder of the project is still there and functions as a "natural consensus". Also its good that his identity is known.Apart from that ETH could get the same problems and civilwars that Bitcoin is experiencing. Good point. All this cultist crap around Satoshi is not healthy. Might be nice to know some lone ranger can't suddenly up and flood the market with bags and bags of coins. IDK. It is a trust machine, after all. |
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February 11, 2016, 03:59:06 PM |
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What are you doing here? you're trying to talk about trading and btc price? Hey! Here it's not a thread for that! It's a thread for... Oh wait...  It has been surprisingly stable. |
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Fatman3001
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February 11, 2016, 04:01:04 PM |
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Then you reiterate the dogma of the one and only way forward and basically warn against the horrors of the peoples rule and independent thought in the collective. To top it off you sound an alarm of the struggles of the future and promote eternal vigilance in the collective.
This rhetoric is used regularly among collectivist populist authoritarian regimes to signal a purge in the population and maintain discipline.
You appear to be seriously confused about general anarchist thought. I am perfectly happy living and working besides other people with different politics and belief systems. If my neighbor to the left wants to start up a communist collective and not use currency, fine. If my neighbor to the right wants to live as a slave under a tyrannical government willingly ,** shudder**.... but fine ....There is a a difference between letting my opinion being known and imposing my opinions on others with violence and coercion. I do have a problem with people supporting and paying for the murder , torture and kidnapping of innocent non -violent people and will defend them if necessary. I think I see things pretty clearly. But you're right, someone here is confused. |
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