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[Denker]

Looks RSK is coming with an ICO pre sale in december this year.
Decky: "they are going to create tools to make porting from Ethereum network over to Bitcoin seemless for existing coins"

So what do you think guys? Bullish? The Eth killer??
An ICO on Bitcoin. Do you like it or not??

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[JayJuanGee]

I am not trying to insult Bitcoin. You cannot deny that SegWit did not appear as it would become reality until miners signaled for NYA. Further, a significant portion of the community is fully behind S2X.  See above. The box is yet to be opened.

Yeah?  Spin all that you like jbreher.. that is not what happened.

Bullshit. It is exactly what happened. Signaling support for segwit was anemic. It was not until the NYA agreement and signaling of S2X that segwit amassed any provable support. That is what occurred, and it is clearly within the record.

Actually jbreher, initially, I was not going to respond to our reiteration of our difference of opinion, here; however, upon further reflection, this seems to be part of your problem and a part of the problems of the BIG blocker nutjobs like yourselves who are trying to suggest that somehow segwit does not have support. 

It does not fucking matter whether you and your small minority of nutjobs believe that segwit has support or not.  Do you recall that segwit went through an actual consensus generating period and then a locking in and then an activation and now we are in the implementation.  That is all water under the bridge... so stop fucking crying about it as if it were illegitimate, because it has passed through the process of adoption into bitcoin real^tm

Yes, yes, yes, I understand that you want to argue that 2x was part of that deal, but you are fucking 99.95% wrong about that.. 2x was not part of that deal.  Sure, 2x was there in the background and 2x was in the simultaneous discussions, but nobody fucking passed 2x.  2x was always subject to testing, approval and consensus gathering, which it never achieved.  The bullshit signaling that was part of the NYA bullshit not the same as actual gaining of actual consensus.  So, in that regard, 2x never had any official implementation mechanism beyond a bunch of current whiners that are now planning to renegade hardfork it because they have not been able to get it accepted under the normal processes and procedures.

Anyhow, the proof of the pudding is in the eating (that is the fact that segwit actually got passed through official processes) rather than your whining claim that it never had any kind of decent and meaningful support until after the NYA agreement... again the NYA only ended up as a kind of BIP91 facilitator.. that then caused a road forward for segwit to become adopted through official channels and without the baggage of 2x (except that 2x would be considered later)

[Torque]

I hope Jeff has a better marketing team behind his alt fork. Because this is embarrassing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM8tQ3yWAAAR2f_.jpg

Just what even?? Is that a Pokemon toy?

Is that even serious?  Or is it photoshopped?

Though I do kind of get the joke as that main character from Pokemon is named サトシ (Satoshi), taken from the creator of Pokemon, Satoshi Tajiri.  But still, I am sure new comers would be puzzled and think that they are buying some virtual currency for the Pokemon Go app.   

I don't know if serious is the right word. He retweeted it. Can you get sued over Twatter?

Notice that Wu is either too stupid or too lazy to even rotate the "B" correctly for BCH. And stealing the font style from Bitcoin logo as well. Nice. Too bad there is no Bitcoin company per se to file a lawsuit against him and his cronies for trademark infringement. In China they don't give shit anyway, I guess they steal branding and marketing from famous brands all the time.

[Torque]

Incorrect. I am quite happy with BCH. As it has capacity exceeding current demand. Just as Bitcoin had from the time satoshi created it until about 18 months ago when the new membership of core allowed a stupid production quota to limit capacity and stifle adoption. I'm a little disappointed with the level of adoption so far, but I am patient. It will come around.

If you have BCH and are happy, and you think adoption of BCH will grow, then you don't need Bitcoin to change anything. Why should you care. It's not your concern anymore. So stfu about it.

Besides, we've shown that bigger blocks are not a problem. Why the obstinance on the part of Core? I think they're merely afraid of losing face.

Buuahahahahaha!!! So full of shit! Good luck trying to gaslight people with that one. BCH has been a complete trainwreck with bigger blocks, hashrate so unstable, AND mining is 90% completely controlled by the Ver/Wu/Wright camp.    

And your previous wall of replies were ridiculous and cringe worthy. Fuck off dude.

I don't know why I even bother. Back to /ignore for you, idiot

[barota]

hi who know when bitgold will be available for trade and deposit and withdrawals in bitfinex and bittrex and other sites exchange?  And what is the real price for btg?

[ghandi]

Just analyzed the latest movements.
I marked the interesting spots for you



 

[marcus_of_augustus]

.... some good lift here, maybe that AMZN rumour has some substance, who knows. It is really is a mystery how silent the FANG boyz are on bitcoin and crypto given how vocal the major banks and Wall St. have become. What is the FANG crypto strategy, the longer they stay silent the worse it looks for them ....

isn't it time that jbreher apologised for all the Bcash and 'hard fork now!' pissing, moaning and whining?  Clearly wrong about segwit, clearly wrong about urgency of hard forking ... just so much wrong on so many levels, sooner or later you got to admit your wrongness or it will eat you up for the rest of your life. Be wrong, own it, revel in it, the truth will set you free in your splendid wrongness.

Bitcoin will hard fork to a new blocksize regulation algorithm when a suitable solution is found and it is good and ready, not before, thanks, not tonight dear.

[Totscha]

Just analyzed the latest movements.
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Confirmed!

This is gentlemen!

CCMF!

[ErisDiscordia]

I must admit I was a bit worried by the look of this latest correction but this is a convincing breakout, I expect a new ATH within a few days! CCMF!

[vroom]

bitcoin going up is the best antidepressant

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-October/000586.html

Has there been any thought to who will be maintaining B2X after the chain
split is completed? It seems the only dev, Jeff, has committed his time to
a new project called Metronome
<https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/metronome-segwit2x-developer-jeff-garzik-is-also-building-an-altcoin/>.
It doesn't appear that any significant portion of the bitcoin core
developers are willing to put their time and effort into this project.

So is the plan to just fork and abandon the btc1 codebase?

-Chris

After the fork, btc1 will be continuing as a sort of "Fedora for Bitcoin"
-- very exciting stuff, and a useful way to risk adjust versus Bitcoin Core
instability or feature selection.   Several btc1 members have proposed new
btc1 changes for post-fork, large and small.  It will be a very nice
addition to the Bitcoin community to have an additional outlet for feature
requests such as this one, a small change that makes life easier for
DevOps: https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/107

Is this an answer?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

PS. Boom

[eXpl0sive]

I'm happy to be proved wrong here but this is how I feel about the forks...

BCH - sold pretty much all straight away and did extremely well out of it and boosted my btc holdings.

Bgold - looks like it could be a waste of time and worth nothing more than a couple of potatoes each + no replay protection

2x - a real spanner in the works, no replay protection and creates yet more FUD and confusion on exchanges.


Personally I want the forks to fork off. I am slightly worried about doing anything with these coins due to the lack of replay protection which potentially could jeopardise my btc.


This Bgold smells fishy to me. From the very beginning when they released their copy and paste website put together by a dyslexic 7 year old. I'm not even going to take the language barrier as an excuse. If you are going to release something like this then start by making a decent web page.

Does everyone think the 2X fork will actually go ahead now that jeff garzik will be concentrating on his wondercoin and the fact that the 2x futures are now trading at $130~?

If B2X doesn't happen, how will the exchanges cope with the customers who bought it in exchange of their BTC? Will the trades be reversed?

(This may very well be applicable to BTG too)

[ghandi]

Approaching 120BTC Wall @ 5090€ on Kraken.

[ragnar0k]

Looks like someone really believes amazon is going to throw the bomb in today...

[rjclarke2000]

So they say things are "priced in" when we all expect a pump due to something that's positive for bitcoin happening in the near future....


Does the same rule apply for something negative?

I mean with 2x and all that bullshit saying they are the real bitcoin and no need for replay protection etc etc. It's pretty negative really so why a little pumpy situation now? Surely the dump is priced in? It makes no sense as 2x will be in November and we all know this. It's no secret.



Doesn't make sense to me unless there is nothing to worry about and it's all just FUD. Maybe this is the situation. Maybe the big players know this by now and are accumulating yet more bitcoin as they know 2018 is going to be a crazy bitcoin year.

[micalith]

Looks RSK is coming with an ICO pre sale in december this year.
Decky: "they are going to create tools to make porting from Ethereum network over to Bitcoin seemless for existing coins"

So what do you think guys? Bullish? The Eth killer??
An ICO on Bitcoin. Do you like it or not??

RSK doesn't actually improve the problems of smart contracts. They're still going to be fraught with difficulty for a while. Could be interesting to see whether this sort of thing helps or damages Ethereum.

[Asrael999]

I'm happy to be proved wrong here but this is how I feel about the forks...

BCH - sold pretty much all straight away and did extremely well out of it and boosted my btc holdings.

Bgold - looks like it could be a waste of time and worth nothing more than a couple of potatoes each + no replay protection

2x - a real spanner in the works, no replay protection and creates yet more FUD and confusion on exchanges.


Personally I want the forks to fork off. I am slightly worried about doing anything with these coins due to the lack of replay protection which potentially could jeopardise my btc.


This Bgold smells fishy to me. From the very beginning when they released their copy and paste website put together by a dyslexic 7 year old. I'm not even going to take the language barrier as an excuse. If you are going to release something like this then start by making a decent web page.

Does everyone think the 2X fork will actually go ahead now that jeff garzik will be concentrating on his wondercoin and the fact that the 2x futures are now trading at $130~?

If B2X doesn't happen, how will the exchanges cope with the customers who bought it in exchange of their BTC? Will the trades be reversed?

(This may very well be applicable to BTG too)

On Finex you’ve not bought 2X you’ve bought a token representing 2x , if 2x doesn’t happen you lose your money and those who have shorted it to you make a profit

[ghandi]

Looks like someone really believes amazon is going to throw the bomb in today...

Is there any schedule known, when the event starts?

[fragout]

Looks like someone really believes amazon is going to throw the bomb in today...

Is there any schedule known, when the event starts?

I dont know but is this btc pump related (word is out perhaps)?