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October 31, 2017, 03:02:15 AM
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Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

Depends on how many coins you got and which exchanges you are talking about.

You act as if guys (and girl) here have 10s or 100s of coins, and there may be quite a few here that have fewer than 5 coins...   Anyhow, maybe you can clarify what you are thinking, in terms of "entire."

Currently, I am thinking that I am not going to change my behavior too much.  I have about 20% of my coins distributed over 4 exchanges (that is 5% each.. and I don't know whether I want to be bothered to reallocate my risk any more than I already have).  I might change my mind if some exchanges make fork treatment clarifications that I consider to be unacceptable to my current level of risk and distribution of risk.

I for one am of the minnow variety. I considered moving my entire stash to an exchange. However, I've decided to keep most of my small stash in my Trezor for the fork. I know that splinting the coins might be a pain, if it appears both chains are viable. However, I'm hoping Slush and his team will make splitting easy. If not, I am sure there will be plenty of comprehensive guides that I can follow.
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October 31, 2017, 03:26:20 AM

^Just wait untill youre Trezor gives you the option to move the shitcoins just like they did with Bcash.

Ohh, Bcash is going to HF around 13 Nov...they're going to 'fix' the manipulation with more manipulation... law.
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October 31, 2017, 03:31:35 AM

^Just wait untill youre Trezor gives you the option to move the shitcoins just like they did with Bcash.

Ohh, Bcash is going to HF around 13 Nov...they're going to 'fix' the manipulation with more manipulation... law.

Slush will probably do the right thing. However, he's not exactly thrilled over S2X fork.  Trezor might be hung up on implementing a coin splitting solution due to no replay protection. Trezor refuses to implement a BTG split until they see the code has strong replay protection.
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October 31, 2017, 03:40:58 AM

when it gets real boring like this I advocate drunk trading
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October 31, 2017, 03:51:18 AM

when it gets real boring like this I advocate drunk trading

I don't drink. However, as a Colorado resident, I have ready access to another substance. Do you think that will be an adequate substitute?
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October 31, 2017, 04:14:17 AM

Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

Depends on how many coins you got and which exchanges you are talking about.

You act as if guys (and girl) here have 10s or 100s of coins, and there may be quite a few here that have fewer than 5 coins...   Anyhow, maybe you can clarify what you are thinking, in terms of "entire."

Currently, I am thinking that I am not going to change my behavior too much.  I have about 20% of my coins distributed over 4 exchanges (that is 5% each.. and I don't know whether I want to be bothered to reallocate my risk any more than I already have).  I might change my mind if some exchanges make fork treatment clarifications that I consider to be unacceptable to my current level of risk and distribution of risk.

I for one am of the minnow variety. I considered moving my entire stash to an exchange. However, I've decided to keep most of my small stash in my Trezor for the fork. I know that splinting the coins might be a pain, if it appears both chains are viable. However, I'm hoping Slush and his team will make splitting easy. If not, I am sure there will be plenty of comprehensive guides that I can follow.

You mean the Trezor online wallet? Or are you using the device to secure electrum for example?

I mostly use the online interface. However, I have also interfaced it with Electrum. What issue do you have when I state the coins are in my Trezor? Should I have worded it to say that I am keeping my coins in addresses/public keys whose corresponding private keys are stored in my Trezor?  Huh
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October 31, 2017, 04:29:49 AM
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Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

I did that with BCH. On Poloniex. They fkd me royally. They put me in lending, without my consent, at the right moment, so somebody else got my BCH. And i´m talking 100 Bitcoins.
My history shows, among, that i lended out exactly 50.00000 Bitcoin to somebody. Never do you lend a round number like this !


Poloniex = Thieves. No joke !


I lost so much that day, it hurts.  POLONIEX are THIEVES ! ! !
If somebody says "Poloniex", run the other way !


No joke, this.
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October 31, 2017, 04:35:07 AM

Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

Depends on how many coins you got and which exchanges you are talking about.

You act as if guys (and girl) here have 10s or 100s of coins, and there may be quite a few here that have fewer than 5 coins...   Anyhow, maybe you can clarify what you are thinking, in terms of "entire."

Currently, I am thinking that I am not going to change my behavior too much.  I have about 20% of my coins distributed over 4 exchanges (that is 5% each.. and I don't know whether I want to be bothered to reallocate my risk any more than I already have).  I might change my mind if some exchanges make fork treatment clarifications that I consider to be unacceptable to my current level of risk and distribution of risk.

I for one am of the minnow variety. I considered moving my entire stash to an exchange. However, I've decided to keep most of my small stash in my Trezor for the fork. I know that splinting the coins might be a pain, if it appears both chains are viable. However, I'm hoping Slush and his team will make splitting easy. If not, I am sure there will be plenty of comprehensive guides that I can follow.


Sometimes the news and the incentives of the bitcoin world are so contradictory and confusing.

As you may recall, prior to the Bcash fork there was a considerable exodus from exchanges for a few reasons, including the fact that several exchanges were either silent or ambiguous, or asserting that they would likely not support the Bcash side of the fork...

Sure, some of the same happens to be going on in this communication of a fork - however, there seems to be a lot of folks who are wondering if replay protection is going to be provided, and we already know that if your coins are on exchanges, then the exchange will have the power to grant you Segwit2x coins, even if replay protection has not been clarified.

Hardware wallets are saying that they will support the split, once replay protection is assured, which could take longer to get such assurances, so there could be some additional incentive to keep some coins on exchanges in order to get access to them faster without the risk of no replay protection or ambiguous replay protections.
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October 31, 2017, 04:36:04 AM

when it gets real boring like this I advocate drunk trading
Boring....

$6200 Bitcoin.

Boring.

Ok.
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October 31, 2017, 04:41:27 AM

Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

Depends on how many coins you got and which exchanges you are talking about.

You act as if guys (and girl) here have 10s or 100s of coins, and there may be quite a few here that have fewer than 5 coins...   Anyhow, maybe you can clarify what you are thinking, in terms of "entire."

Currently, I am thinking that I am not going to change my behavior too much.  I have about 20% of my coins distributed over 4 exchanges (that is 5% each.. and I don't know whether I want to be bothered to reallocate my risk any more than I already have).  I might change my mind if some exchanges make fork treatment clarifications that I consider to be unacceptable to my current level of risk and distribution of risk.

I for one am of the minnow variety. I considered moving my entire stash to an exchange. However, I've decided to keep most of my small stash in my Trezor for the fork. I know that splinting the coins might be a pain, if it appears both chains are viable. However, I'm hoping Slush and his team will make splitting easy. If not, I am sure there will be plenty of comprehensive guides that I can follow.

You mean the Trezor online wallet? Or are you using the device to secure electrum for example?


I am not sure if I understand what you are saying.  


Electrum is an online wallet, and Trezor is not an online wallet (even though it has an online interface).


I do understand that if you store you private keys in both locations (electrum and trezor), then you lose the off-line protection of the trezor because your coins can be accessed through electrum (more than one place).

Are we saying the same thing?
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October 31, 2017, 04:50:35 AM

when it gets real boring like this I advocate drunk trading
Boring....

$6200 Bitcoin.

Boring.

Ok.



lol.....yeah....getting hard to think of this as magic/unicorn/fairdust/tulip money now huh

by the way....you can thank me for the 1 BTC I think it was i SPENT on fixing broke knc Titan board last Dec

sheesh at $450 or so then.....

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October 31, 2017, 04:53:01 AM

Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

I did that with BCH. On Poloniex. They fkd me royally. They put me in lending, without my consent, at the right moment, so somebody else got my BCH. And i´m talking 100 Bitcoins.
My history shows, among, that i lended out exactly 50.00000 Bitcoin to somebody. Never do you lend a round number like this !


Poloniex = Thieves. No joke !


I lost so much that day, it hurts.  POLONIEX are THIEVES ! ! !
If somebody says "Poloniex", run the other way !


No joke, this.
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October 31, 2017, 05:21:26 AM

Guys, I know this is a stupid question but I really want to know your opinions.

I'm learning how to play bitcoins just feel days ago.. I'm learning and starting to understand a bit the forks, the influences but do you guys think the bitcoin will drop temporary by today or tomorrow?

I'm only playing eToro so I,m not buying directly bitcoins, so I have buy it to fall when it was around 6010USD per BTC and I didn't see much movement going down. I'm aware that it will raise and that's why I'm trying to make the right decision if I should close it and buy it to raise or not. I'm currently invested 26K USD.

Thanks you guys for any opinion.

Dan
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Naw, seriously tho. Has anyone considered moving their entire stash onto an exchange pre-fork? I know it's drastic...

I did that with BCH. On Poloniex. They fkd me royally. They put me in lending, without my consent, at the right moment, so somebody else got my BCH. And i´m talking 100 Bitcoins.
My history shows, among, that i lended out exactly 50.00000 Bitcoin to somebody. Never do you lend a round number like this !


Poloniex = Thieves. No joke !


I lost so much that day, it hurts.  POLONIEX are THIEVES ! ! !
If somebody says "Poloniex", run the other way !


No joke, this.
                                     P O L O N I E X   are   T H I E V E S


Your own wallet is the only place to be, i know i was stupid, but thats the story, as it happened !









I got nearly 4 BCH ( 3pointsomething), to be fair. Why? I don´t know. Should have gotten 100 of those little buggers ! !

Never, i repeat, NEVER, should you trust any exchange, i´m a walking example.
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Guys, I know this is a stupid question but I really want to know your opinions.

I'm learning how to play bitcoins just feel days ago.. I'm learning and starting to understand a bit the forks, the influences but do you guys think the bitcoin will drop temporary by today or tomorrow?

I'm only playing eToro so I,m not buying directly bitcoins, so I have buy it to fall when it was around 6010USD per BTC and I didn't see much movement going down. I'm aware that it will raise and that's why I'm trying to make the right decision if I should close it and buy it to raise or not. I'm currently invested 26K USD.

Thanks you guys for any opinion.

Dan
Welcome to the party Dan.
Nobody can give you advice on what to do with your money or what direction BTC will take in the next 2 days.  Only advice that has worked for many is buy and HOLD. Does not matter much what price.
I might suggest buying incrementally. Surely Bitcoin will go down at some point but it might fall from 8000-6000 or from 6000-4600. Also, it is not certain that bitcoin will only go up.  This is uncharted territory.
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October 31, 2017, 06:01:13 AM

Are we going to brake 10k€ this year  Grin
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October 31, 2017, 06:26:08 AM

It can´t be.
I just said 100 Bitcoins, and nobody has anything to say ? I´ll lay myself to die then.
This forum is fkd up ! !

Wait, i´ll convert that back into my currency:  WTF ? ?


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October 31, 2017, 06:36:39 AM

It can´t be.
I just said 100 Bitcoins, and nobody has anything to say ? I´ll lay myself to die then.
This forum is fkd up ! !

Wait, i´ll convert that back into my currency:  WTF ? ?


Nobody is interested in your private feud with Poloniex.

Exchanges mean trouble. We all know.
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October 31, 2017, 06:41:06 AM

Thank you, I completely understand.. just want to have more opinions to decide. Thank you

Guys, I know this is a stupid question but I really want to know your opinions.

I'm learning how to play bitcoins just feel days ago.. I'm learning and starting to understand a bit the forks, the influences but do you guys think the bitcoin will drop temporary by today or tomorrow?

I'm only playing eToro so I,m not buying directly bitcoins, so I have buy it to fall when it was around 6010USD per BTC and I didn't see much movement going down. I'm aware that it will raise and that's why I'm trying to make the right decision if I should close it and buy it to raise or not. I'm currently invested 26K USD.

Thanks you guys for any opinion.

Dan
Welcome to the party Dan.
Nobody can give you advice on what to do with your money or what direction BTC will take in the next 2 days.  Only advice that has worked for many is buy and HOLD. Does not matter much what price.
I might suggest buying incrementally. Surely Bitcoin will go down at some point but it might fall from 8000-6000 or from 6000-4600. Also, it is not certain that bitcoin will only go up.  This is uncharted territory.
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October 31, 2017, 06:42:22 AM
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It can´t be.
I just said 100 Bitcoins, and nobody has anything to say ? I´ll lay myself to die then.
This forum is fkd up ! !

Wait, i´ll convert that back into my currency:  WTF ? ?


Nobody is interested in your private feud with Poloniex.

Exchanges mean trouble. We all know.

Allright, have fun with Polo ! Thought, i´ll give you a heads up, with Polo, not asked by you, i know, pfmpf.
Now i get it, this the expert-thread isn´t it ? How dare, i´m scratching on it . . .




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