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I understand that you are not talking about 100% of a guy(gal)'s total investment portfolio, but likely instead you are referring to NOT going "all in" with what portion of value the guy/gal has allocated towards bitcoin investing.

Personally, I never recommend going "all in" but instead always being prepared for either price direction (both in other words).





I have to admit that I am not trading BTC myself, but I respond to trading related posts . My trading occurs mainly in the normal stock market. I have found it is always easier to make correct calls when there is no real position at stake : Emotions don't come into play so much.

The BTCT forum has become a theoretical testing ground for me, and I just offer my own opinion FWIW along with all the other mixed content.

So, I just think myself into the position of a trader when I make that sort of post. TBH, I am looking at BTC rather like a long term growth stock (Buffett style investing, if you like) . Like a stock, I like to be aware that total loss is a possibility. My own approach is probably at odds with most other posters here, but thats why I like to give my view, for variety (it might seem like devils advocate sometimes, but that is not deliberate).

I would always advise being prepared for a move in either direction, whatever you are trading. I eventually made my whole business from trading (various instruments) over many decades, and it is not an easy option. My best advice for a would be trader is , don't do it at all, unless you are psychologically prepared for regular losses.
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January 28, 2019, 09:45:42 AM

Going to the bank in a bit so thought I’d have a bit of fun but also do my bit tor the community



Totally merited. Hopefully I'll see one of these circulating in the future.
Does the dye stick to the new £5 and £10s?
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January 28, 2019, 10:05:16 AM
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I am not dismissive of others' views whatsoever. In this case people were constantly misrepresenting my words either through stupidity, laziness, or by deliberation.

Not dismissive:

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You are either intellectually dishonest (didn't properly read and understand what has been said and filled the gaps with your own story, then refuse to accept the fact that you have done so), too mentally impaired to understand what I've said, or plain evil and a manipulator.

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You idiots are making up points of your own and pretending that they were mine.

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There will be no repercussions for me, because I understand very well that the overwhelming majority is evil, delusional, ego-tripping, or just plain retarded.

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If you however, act in real life as you do on here, you'll be the one eating shit when it proverbially hits the fan.

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

Ok, even if I allow you are not making a political argument, as you assert - how is your argument well-made?

You seem to argue that if someone is suffering from ANY injustice they should have no recourse; they should just ‘shut the fuck up’?

If in their state (for example) their politicians are corrupt, they are stolen from or repressed and they have no recourse to the rule of law as the police are corrupt too - then they should never complain, but just ‘seek incremental improvements’ rather than bother anyone who else who might perhaps be happily in an arguably more free and more privileged position, such as the one in which you and I are?

I am not seeking to attack you, but the flaws in your arguments and the way you seek to win them.  You have seemed reasonable and I thought posted well until this point.  Now you are coming across in a way that seems ill-considered, angry, elitist, dismissive and self-righteous.

Shouting louder does not make you right. Also, dismissing all ‘complaints’ wholesale without exception is by definition blind prejudice, which is unreasonable.

Someone wanting to advocate for others in a way you do not agree with is not automatically 'retarded' or 'evil, nor do they have to ‘eat shit’ or be an object of your overbearing disdain.  This is plainly over the top.

We are all at least loosely aligned here in the respect we are fans of Bitcoin (with one out two exceptions I can think of).  I know my own views are not wholly shared, but I rarely challenge the opinions of others I disagree with unless they step over the line into angry vitriol to make a point which may well be a valid opinion, but is not a fact.

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But by that line of reasoning you're all Hitler and Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

'…there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.'

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to take your advice and seek out incremental improvements to my lifestyle, which is something I would happily advocate to others - just not in the way you do.

Have a nice day.
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January 28, 2019, 10:15:52 AM

Going to the bank in a bit so thought I’d have a bit of fun but also do my bit tor the community



Totally merited. Hopefully I'll see one of these circulating in the future.
Does the dye stick to the new £5 and £10s?

It stuck to the £10 notes. I didn’t have any £5 notes this time.

I used a good old black permanent Sharpie - £1 for 3 @ Poundland Grin
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Is Latin America the next great Bitcoin frontier? Localbitcoins data might suggest so

https://cryptomurmur.com/latin-america-localbitcoins/





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January 28, 2019, 10:28:47 AM

Africa Is "Ahead of Western Countries" Adopting P2P Finance, Says Paxful's CEO

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccacampbell1/2019/01/16/africa-is-ahead-of-western-countries-adopting-p2p-finance-says-paxfuls-ceo/#d6e165a58ba4


"One company that is aiming to provide a gateway to the world's population that have been frozen out of the ecosystem is Paxful, a peer-to-peer bitcoin marketplace that is connecting buyers with sellers.

Founded in 2015, the platform saw its transaction volume increase by 130% in 2018, driven by a growth of activity among African users. The surge in figures was due to Paxful's user base tripling in Ghana, with the opening of 41,243 accounts, and Nigeria's accounts more than doubling to 321,476.

Speaking about this, Ray Youssef, CEO and co-founder of Paxful, said that they have noticed more people focused on trading rather than investing following the dip with bitcoin's price. He noted that most of the people doing this are from Africa who are "way ahead of the Western countries in the adoption of peer-to-peer finance."

For a market like Africa, where financial institutions are not easily accessible and many in the population are unbanked and underbanked, peer-to-peer finance gives them access to take control of their money the way they want, he added. It's an opportunity for them to take control of their finances and be financially independent.

As Youssef explained they have created a system that has bitcoin and blockchain technology in its core, but is completely human in execution.

People are taking control of their finances one Paxful trade at a time, he added. And more and more financially unreachable places around the world are finally included in a global financial scale. It's heartwarming to see that a lot of people are using our platform to change their lives for the better."
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I am not dismissive of others' views whatsoever. In this case people were constantly misrepresenting my words either through stupidity, laziness, or by deliberation.

Not dismissive:

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You are either intellectually dishonest (didn't properly read and understand what has been said and filled the gaps with your own story, then refuse to accept the fact that you have done so), too mentally impaired to understand what I've said, or plain evil and a manipulator.

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You idiots are making up points of your own and pretending that they were mine.

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There will be no repercussions for me, because I understand very well that the overwhelming majority is evil, delusional, ego-tripping, or just plain retarded.

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If you however, act in real life as you do on here, you'll be the one eating shit when it proverbially hits the fan.

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

Ok, even if I allow you are not making a political argument, as you assert - how is your argument well-made?

You seem to argue that if someone is suffering from ANY injustice they should have no recourse; they should just ‘shut the fuck up’?

If in their state (for example) their politicians are corrupt, they are stolen from or repressed and they have no recourse to the rule of law as the police are corrupt too - then they should never complain, but just ‘seek incremental improvements’ rather than bother anyone who else who might perhaps be happily in an arguably more free and more privileged position, such as the one in which you and I are?

I am not seeking to attack you, but the flaws in your arguments and the way you seek to win them.  You have seemed reasonable and I thought posted well until this point.  Now you are coming across in a way that seems ill-considered, angry, elitist, dismissive and self-righteous.

Shouting louder does not make you right. Also, dismissing all ‘complaints’ wholesale without exception is by definition blind prejudice, which is unreasonable.

Someone wanting to advocate for others in a way you do not agree with is not automatically 'retarded' or 'evil, nor do they have to ‘eat shit’ or be an object of your overbearing disdain.  This is plainly over the top.

We are all at least loosely aligned here in the respect we are fans of Bitcoin (with one out two exceptions I can think of).  I know my own views are not wholly shared, but I rarely challenge the opinions of others I disagree with unless they step over the line into angry vitriol to make a point which may well be a valid opinion, but is not a fact.

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But by that line of reasoning you're all Hitler and Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

'…there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.'

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to take your advice and seek out incremental improvements to my lifestyle, which is something I would happily advocate to others - just not in the way you do.

Have a nice day.
My argument would appear more well made if you didn't cherry pick from a single post at the end of a lengthy exchange, not that I expect you to dig through the thread to get the whole picture if you didn't catch the original exchange a few days ago.

I never compared anyone directly to Hitler by the way (which should be obvious even without former context given that nobody calls people Hitler and a Jew in the scenarios you draw from), so I'll kindly excuse myself from responding to your post in detail, as it shows a clear lack of understanding of the matter at hand.
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January 28, 2019, 10:48:47 AM

Going to the bank in a bit so thought I’d have a bit of fun but also do my bit tor the community



Wow you're the man! Well-deserved +1 merit  Cool
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boy's I don't visit bookshops a lot, but i'm walking @the mall, just take a quick look in one for something



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https://twitter.com/RedditBTC/status/1089809364972650496

reading much good news lately ......
it would be nice if the price start following the good news
@the meantime HODL, increase, BTFD, BTC=oversold don't sell with them Smiley
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Clean up all your exif data?

First thing imgur does upon upload, IIRC, is blow away any provided exif data.
Is that a fact? Never uploaded anything on here because I was too lazy to bother with exif.

I don't know whether it is a fact, but that is what imgur claims. And I've never seen such be credibly disputed.
I'm betting they keep a copy of the deleted exif anyway.
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You seem to argue that if someone is suffering from ANY injustice they should have no recourse; they should just ‘shut the fuck up’?
This one point I'll clear up.

I originally stated that people who don't work on improving their own situation and choose to complain instead don't deserve better. The reason for this is that they've given up on themselves by choosing to complain, and thus can't possibly expect things to magically improve. Basically a you reap what you sow argument.

This has nothing to do with advocating on behalf of others, as complaining is not equivalent to advocating and "on behalf of others" is not equivalent to "complaining about your own situation instead of working on it".

Do I wish everyone (who isn't an outright twat that is out to hurt people) the best even if they don't deserve it? Sure. Is that mutually exclusive? No. People who don't work on their own situation don't deserve better because they aren't trying themselves.
Doesn't mean that they can't or shouldn't have it better or that people can't or shouldn't help others. All of that nonsense was made up by random people on this thread.
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It stuck to the £10 notes. I didn’t have any £5 notes this time.

I used a good old black permanent Sharpie - £1 for 3 @ Poundland Grin

I'm totally going to start doing this.
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The 'Fork And Flip" piece by artist VESA. Among other things, this helps to see the natural part of the winter to the summer,” said VESA.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/akl4on/oc_how_many_people_are_using_bitcoin_by_country/
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