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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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can't do that man that's not nice Roll Eyes
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January 13, 2019, 05:02:33 PM

Just filling out a job application for my local McDonalds, getting ready for being poor seems a good idea right now Wink




can't do that man that's not nice Roll Eyes

When’s the blood shed going to stop.

Fucking $3,4xx

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January 13, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
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Double bottoms coming?
Who would be buying?
I am running our money.
Please bring me a nanny.

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January 13, 2019, 05:10:52 PM

I'm out at the site. Moored up for the evening after getting the spar anchored.



how is the bandwidth out there?
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When’s the blood shed going to stop.


 Huh

Nobody can be sure. Long slow bottoming process. If you prepare for a 2 year wait, you will not be too stessed.

Whether the bottom is $3k or $1k is not so important as the timing of the next proper upswing.  

Even a further downswing to $1.5k by 2020 would be quickly reversed in a new bull trend.

The only advice I can give is the same as I have been saying for the last year : try to get on with other business, and not watch BTC too closely.
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January 13, 2019, 05:18:37 PM

^ Nice to see gembitz finally managed to buy his cheap Bitcoins.

anyone wants to buy cheap corns? ~ $2500 street price*  Cool  weeeee

yeah have some FOR 2500

probably not, maybe 2500 pieces of ripple?? is what you own Smiley



 Cool

^i'm here to amuse you? lol
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January 13, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
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can't do that man that's not nice Roll Eyes

When’s the blood shed going to stop.

Fucking $3,4xx

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I always prefer NOW, but not often things come as I exactly want them Roll Eyes
Have to wait for the when, but I guess we Will notice it, when the real take off is uppon us Grin
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January 13, 2019, 05:25:07 PM
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can't do that man that's not nice Roll Eyes

Actually you would get a car if you work at McDonalds. Grin
Just not as a nice one that LFC has. Cheesy
https://www.ajc.com/news/mcdonald-employee-gets-free-car-from-kansas-businessman/HliHsqXrqtAkuaahNwFWbL/

Atleast his matches the restaurants logo.
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i just presented LFC a glimps of his future (the reward of not selling, and to prefer start working @MCdo's)
though I don't think he's gonna start any day soon @ Mcdo's ......

he's a hodler to the bone thats for sure, and many in here will be on he's side HODLING Smiley
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January 13, 2019, 05:41:59 PM

Just filling out a job application for my local McDonalds, getting ready for being poor seems a good idea right now Wink




can't do that man that's not nice Roll Eyes

When’s the blood shed going to stop.

Fucking $3,4xx

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I always prefer NOW, but not often things come as I exactly want them Roll Eyes
Have to wait for the when, but I guess we Will notice it, when the real take off is uppon us Grin

I bought another £500 worth yesterday. Tempted to buy another £200 - £300 now it’s gone down, going to use my business card. Not supposed to but this is cheap coins.

Wondering if I should wait until Tuesday or something as I’m scared there will be another leg down.

I know long term it doesn’t matter as the price will OBVIOUSLY go much higher but it always pisses me off when I buy & 24 hours later we’ve dumped loads more.
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i just presented LFC a glimps of his future (the reward of not selling, and to prefer start working @MCdo's)
though I don't think he's gonna start any day soon @ Mcdo's ......

he's a hodler to the bone thats for sure, and many in here will be on he's side HODLING Smiley

I’ll always be ok financially. Our business does quite well & I’ll get a load of inheritance one day but BTC could make things a lot fucking better if it moons.

I’d rather hang myself than work at McD’s tbh.
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hate that as well
when I'm willing to do something, decide to do it, and then its the other direction Roll Eyes
the I'm F***ed for the moment feeling


edit: very good there's something running on the side as well Wink


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when THAT shit hits 21,000,000 then there's a BULLISH sign WO brothers
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January 13, 2019, 06:05:41 PM

Logically the reasons behind hes unwillingness to disclose whether or not he controls the key to the genesis block make no sense too me.

Lets look at these rationally.

What are your thoughts jb? [reordered]

Most of your list seem to speak to soft considerations such as motivation and social aspects. Not sure these are amenable to objective analysis. But I'll play along.

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1) Revealing control of the genesis key basically tells the world it was never about money.

I'm not sure how this follows. (If it were...) CSW does not seem very shy about flaunting at least some of his money. Enough so that the echo chambers collectively deride his pulling out of the high-end watches, or his Lambo or whatever.

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Coins could and should have been dumped many times over if it had been.

I don't get how this follows either. To accept such would seem to obviate the position of hodlers. Which many here probably ascribe to. If one is 'all about the money', and one was reasonably sure that the price next week/month/year/decade will be higher, would one not refrain from dumping? I mean... I hodl, and despite my lofty view of myself and my motivations, I need to admit that it is at least in part about self-enrichment.

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2) Even controlling such a big stake of coins that there was a true belief in decentralization. A hands off approach or at least a behind the scenes one over the project direction has been encouraged.

Yes. And if satoshi would reveal his/her/themself, I think it would be natural for their opinions -- technical and social -- to be given weightier consideration by the community,.

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3) The incredible social network effect that would happen to Bitcoin knowing that the creator was still around and interested in development.

Hmm. I've always assumed that satoshi's disappearance was a net positive for Bitcoin. But there are so many ways to look at this single event that any possible list of considerations would be incomplete.

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4) Banishing doubt over dishonesty or fraudulent claims.

This would seem a solid Pro.

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5) ?

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1) Opsec becomes increasingly difficult.

Opsec would become nil.

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2) The continuation or creation of a cult of personality.

Oddly, I think CSW already 'benefits' from this to some degree.

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3) Becoming(more of) a known fraud and liar.
4) ?

For a temporary lie, dispelled by ultimate honesty? Perhaps.

I've already answered HairyMaclairy. Somewhat obliquely, but honestly. Sorry I don't have a better answer.
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January 13, 2019, 06:13:50 PM

A detailed argument for the bottom being in:

https://medium.com/@renato_shira/bitcoin-bottom-is-in-35ff1e2b9403

I don’t agree with it but worth considering. 

Disagree with Realized Value being an indicator? Or some other aspect?
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wow

guess I better keep the day job
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January 13, 2019, 06:38:26 PM

Wonder how many people told their boss to fuck off, then apologized, then told him to fuck off again and what the longest chain was. Bart op.
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if we where in SCI-FI

and there is an offer to watch 1 day in the future (whenever day you wish, just to see where BTC stands)

how much would you offer to pay for that and how far would you wanna look ?

Maybe i already did; here it is (for free):

I saw bitcoin at $605,000 in 2029

The setup of my "time machine":

The number of people in US with wealth over $5 mil (5-millionares) is increasing (1997-2015) at 11.35% a year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/300451/us-millionaire-households/
Assuming the same rate of increase between 2015 and 2019, now there are about 2.09 mil 5-millionares in US and 5.067 mil in the world (US seems to be at around 41% roughly).

It is unlikely that btc would cause statistically significant increase in total number of 5-millionares, therefore the variation from expected number should not be more than 5% or so.
In 2029 the total number of 5-millionares is expected to be 14.847 mil with 6.135 mil in US.

A 5% variation from 14.847 is 0.74mil. Therefore, not more than 0.74 mil btc owners would be 5-millionares.
It is fair to assume that btc-derived 5-millionares would have the vast majority of their wealth from btc alone, otherwise they would be in the regular 95%.

The stat data below suggest that about 0.75 mil btc owners have minimally 7.44 btc:
https://medium.com/@BambouClub/are-you-in-the-bitcoin-1-a-new-model-of-the-distribution-of-bitcoin-wealth-6adb0d4a6a95

Therefore, assuming that 90% of btc-owners wealth would come from btc and not more that 5% of global 5-millionares would come from btc wealth in 2029,
the numbers indicate an approximately $4.5 mil value (90% of 5 mil) for 7.44 btc, making it about $605,000/btc.
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