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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
Total Voters: 132

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January 12, 2019, 06:08:59 PM
Merited by xhomerx10 (1), BinaryReign (1)





+1 (this merit thing is starting to get annoying for WO leechers)

send him yours Smiley

especially you with that pacman avatar

why isn't that on a HAT yet ??

 It would probably be too small in the patch plus he can't part with his avatar.




OK Homer, I capitulate. If you somehow manage a themed hat I will wear it with pride.



Tempted to buy some, but I told myself for the first time to be disciplined and stick to a limit order 10% below ATL.
Perhaps the sign of the bottom reached, is actually myself. Let's see, happy either way.

 Pac man proved to be a tough caP, man!



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Hope it fits.




You sir are an artist, very creatively done. It is almost a shame the avatar is so small, love the trail covering the hat.
Thanks! And have my last merits please.


donated ONE for bitebits as well Smiley

Thanks Smiley
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January 12, 2019, 06:09:24 PM

Meanwhile, r0ach is evading the elephant in the room:

Can banks create Bitcoin out of thin air?
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January 12, 2019, 06:10:03 PM
Merited by vapourminer (1), Wekkel (1), JayJuanGee (1), infofront (1), jojo69 (1), hodl_2015 (1)

My question is can you or anyone else give me their best argument as to why the bottom is in or not.

From my perspective, your question is inappropriate useless.

Bitcoin is a new emerging asset class, in the initial throes of price discovery. To attempt to time this market is madness. Price goes up; price goes down - you can't explain that. All we really know is:
1) whether or not the world knows it or not, it needs a permissionless uncensorable form of money free from the whims of central planners; and
2) a vanishingly small percentage of the world has yet awaken to postulate 1).

From these two, we can conclude that the long term trend is up, and will remain so until such time that the world at large is onboard.

Ignore the noise. Buy today all you can conceivably afford to lose. Hodl on.

Pit pat piffy wing wang wong.
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January 12, 2019, 06:15:30 PM

Just to let you know that mineIOTA.com will support payout in Lightning Network soon: https://mineiota.com/

Cool!
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January 12, 2019, 06:31:14 PM

All the news of advances for Bitcoin are nice.

But in LN some actors are entering the game ...,of dubious origin, banks, institutions, startups, supported by the same. Roll Eyes

This as news is fine, you do not have the coins immobilized in LN waiting.

Crypto payment platform Bitrefill has launched Thor, a service that allows customers to open Lightning channels on demand. Thor will connect to Bitrefill's node on the Lightning Network, allowing users to receive Lightning payments whether they have bitcoin loaded into their Lightning wallets or not.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitrefill-channel-opening-service-makes-accepting-lightning-payments-easy/
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Be a bank.


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January 12, 2019, 06:32:30 PM

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January 12, 2019, 06:32:39 PM

How do you secure your security seed? Honest question

Cryptosteel or similar, stored in a safe
https://cryptosteel.com/

and/or

Shamirs Secret Splitting
https://iancoleman.io/shamir/



I thought a flaw was discovered in Shamir's code last year?
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January 12, 2019, 06:34:16 PM

Bitwise Bitcoin ETF Trust IPO Filing on NASDAQ

https://www.nasdaq.com/markets/ipos/filing.ashx?filingid=13149338




Fake news, BTC ETF will never be approved.
Stop talking about the fucking BTC ETF. It will never affect BTC price.
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January 12, 2019, 06:36:05 PM

All the news of advances for Bitcoin are nice.

But in LN some actors are entering the game ...,of dubious origin, banks, institutions, startups, supported by the same. Roll Eyes

This as news is fine, you do not have the coins immobilized in LN waiting.

Crypto payment platform Bitrefill has launched Thor, a service that allows customers to open Lightning channels on demand. Thor will connect to Bitrefill's node on the Lightning Network, allowing users to receive Lightning payments whether they have bitcoin loaded into their Lightning wallets or not.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitrefill-channel-opening-service-makes-accepting-lightning-payments-easy/

I would be very glad to have banks joining Lightning Network. That would be great news. This may sound impopular, but I have my reasons to think that would have a great outcome for all hodlers.

P.S.: I will stand it again: What I want is to control the most part of my financial, I don't care what banks/payment processors or whatever control my petty cash.
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January 12, 2019, 06:36:15 PM

hat update and increasing

   



= COME ON gentlemand
=just a future thing, but this brother will be wearing it

still in progress ? ssmc,bitebits,biodom,majormax,lauda,somac. etc........ pfffffffff   MANY HAT's created THX 

HAT UPDATE TIME ........ again THX XhomerX for this nice work
few more on the page Grin

VB1001 also added cause it will not take to long anymore I guess Smiley


Coming Soon !!!!! Cool
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January 12, 2019, 06:38:42 PM

All the news of advances for Bitcoin are nice.

But in LN some actors are entering the game ...,of dubious origin, banks, institutions, startups, supported by the same. Roll Eyes

This as news is fine, you do not have the coins immobilized in LN waiting.

Crypto payment platform Bitrefill has launched Thor, a service that allows customers to open Lightning channels on demand. Thor will connect to Bitrefill's node on the Lightning Network, allowing users to receive Lightning payments whether they have bitcoin loaded into their Lightning wallets or not.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitrefill-channel-opening-service-makes-accepting-lightning-payments-easy/

I would be very glad to have banks joining Lightning Network. That would be great news. This may sound impopular, but I have my reasons to think that would have a great outcome for all hodlers.


I do not know, I'm starting to have my doubts.

I'm radicalizing to the hard core. lol
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January 12, 2019, 06:39:25 PM

^ End January / early February I would guess
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January 12, 2019, 06:41:11 PM

^ End January / early February I would guess
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29/30 January

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January 12, 2019, 06:42:40 PM

All the news of advances for Bitcoin are nice.

But in LN some actors are entering the game ...,of dubious origin, banks, institutions, startups, supported by the same. Roll Eyes

This as news is fine, you do not have the coins immobilized in LN waiting.

Crypto payment platform Bitrefill has launched Thor, a service that allows customers to open Lightning channels on demand. Thor will connect to Bitrefill's node on the Lightning Network, allowing users to receive Lightning payments whether they have bitcoin loaded into their Lightning wallets or not.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitrefill-channel-opening-service-makes-accepting-lightning-payments-easy/

I would be very glad to have banks joining Lightning Network. That would be great news. This may sound impopular, but I have my reasons to think that would have a great outcome for all hodlers.


I do not know, I'm starting to have my doubts.

I'm radicalizing to the hard core. lol

I have even been accused in the past to be a "big blocker" supporter because I said I was in favor of a moderately increase of the blocksize (ie Segwit2x but absolutely against BU). At the same time I was absolutely pro Segwit and LN. Now I will probably be accused to be a bank shill when nothing is far from reality.

I just want what I think it will be best for the success of Bitcoin and all the people that have their money where their mouth is (ie hodlers).

I might be wrong though. Fortunately I am noone and my opinion counts shit.
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January 12, 2019, 06:45:01 PM





+1 (this merit thing is starting to get annoying for WO leechers)

send him yours Smiley

especially you with that pacman avatar

why isn't that on a HAT yet ??

 It would probably be too small in the patch plus he can't part with his avatar.




OK Homer, I capitulate. If you somehow manage a themed hat I will wear it with pride.



Tempted to buy some, but I told myself for the first time to be disciplined and stick to a limit order 10% below ATL.
Perhaps the sign of the bottom reached, is actually myself. Let's see, happy either way.

 Pac man proved to be a tough caP, man!



 Avatar-sized



Hope it fits.




You sir are an artist, very creatively done. It is almost a shame the avatar is so small, love the trail covering the hat.
Thanks! And have my last merits please.


donated ONE for bitebits as well Smiley

Thanks Smiley

 Thanks for the compliment but all the art that will ever appear on the hat is already in the hat; I just have to change the colour of a few pixels to make it appear.

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January 12, 2019, 06:50:41 PM

I surrender to the "hat-cult"  too Grin.
Made an avatar (for the first time).

If xhomerx10 will feel like making a hat, it would be nice. Thanks.
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How much alt coin diversification is needed? 0%?


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January 12, 2019, 06:50:59 PM

According to coinfairvalue, Bitcoin should be at $7415 right now.
https://www.coinfairvalue.com/



I was going to give you a merit for providing this source, yet when i reviewed the other coins assessed by the source, I see that a very large majority of the other coins listed therein are currently greatly undervalued based on their "utility" criteria. 

Accordingly, even though there is some interesting described values contained therein, gotta take the whole matter with a considerable grain of salt because my overall consideration is that if you give a lot of weight to sound money, then the utility of bitcoin should become immensely distinguishable from almost all other coins on that they list on that site.
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January 12, 2019, 06:51:16 PM

All the news of advances for Bitcoin are nice.

But in LN some actors are entering the game ...,of dubious origin, banks, institutions, startups, supported by the same. Roll Eyes

This as news is fine, you do not have the coins immobilized in LN waiting.

Crypto payment platform Bitrefill has launched Thor, a service that allows customers to open Lightning channels on demand. Thor will connect to Bitrefill's node on the Lightning Network, allowing users to receive Lightning payments whether they have bitcoin loaded into their Lightning wallets or not.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitrefill-channel-opening-service-makes-accepting-lightning-payments-easy/

I would be very glad to have banks joining Lightning Network. That would be great news. This may sound impopular, but I have my reasons to think that would have a great outcome for all hodlers.


I do not know, I'm starting to have my doubts.

I'm radicalizing to the hard core. lol

I have even been accused in the past to be a "big blocker" supporter because I said I was in favor of a moderately increase of the blocksize (ie Segwit2x but absolutely against BU). At the same time I was absolutely pro Segwit and LN. Now I will probably be accused to be a bank shill when nothing is far from reality.

I just want what I think it will be best for the success of Bitcoin and all the people that have their money where their mouth is (ie hodlers).

I might be wrong though. Fortunately I am noone and my opinion means shit.

This is like going to the dark side. Grin
(It's a joke)
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January 12, 2019, 06:54:26 PM

All the news of advances for Bitcoin are nice.

But in LN some actors are entering the game ...,of dubious origin, banks, institutions, startups, supported by the same. Roll Eyes

This as news is fine, you do not have the coins immobilized in LN waiting.

Crypto payment platform Bitrefill has launched Thor, a service that allows customers to open Lightning channels on demand. Thor will connect to Bitrefill's node on the Lightning Network, allowing users to receive Lightning payments whether they have bitcoin loaded into their Lightning wallets or not.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitrefill-channel-opening-service-makes-accepting-lightning-payments-easy/

I would be very glad to have banks joining Lightning Network. That would be great news. This may sound impopular, but I have my reasons to think that would have a great outcome for all hodlers.


I do not know, I'm starting to have my doubts.

I'm radicalizing to the hard core. lol

I have even been accused in the past to be a "big blocker" supporter because I said I was in favor of a moderately increase of the blocksize (ie Segwit2x but absolutely against BU). At the same time I was absolutely pro Segwit and LN. Now I will probably be accused to be a bank shill when nothing is far from reality.

I just want what I think it will be best for the success of Bitcoin and all the people that have their money where their mouth is (ie hodlers).

I might be wrong though. Fortunately I am noone and my opinion means shit.

This is like going to the dark side. Grin
(It's a joke)

I have my rationality and I know it is pure and unbiased. No matter how impopular it might sound to some. As I said I do accept that I might be wrong though... no matter how much convinced I am in my thinking.
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January 12, 2019, 06:54:43 PM

Meanwhile, r0ach is evading the elephant in the room:

Can banks create Bitcoin out of thin air?

Sure, Bitfinex probably does it all the time.
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