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Chief economist of the World Bank and former senior vice president Joseph Stiglitz calls for “shutdown” of “the cryptocurrencies”.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/02/joseph-stiglitz-we-should-shutdown-the-cryptocurrencies.html?
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Bitcoin’s Lightning Network Comes to the Apple Watch

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On Sunday (May 5), BlueWallet Services released a new version (v4.0.0) of its Bitcoin and Lightning wallet for iOS, which is called "BlueWallet";
this “milestone” release comes with an Apple Watch app that allows users to generate Lightning invoices directly on the watch.

https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/05/bitcoins-lightning-network-comes-to-the-apple-watch/
I haven't seen a single person use their watch to pay for anything regardless of payment method.

Seems gimmicky. Like who really is going to pull up a qr code on their watch rather than their phone.


I do not either, but maybe one day not far away, you can leave home alone with your watch and pay or buy what you want, without a credit card, without money in your pocket, just your watch.

Anyway I only publish the news that I see interesting, but it is good to see that they are constantly developing technology to apply Bitcoin in all areas, these small details are also part of the adoption.
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May 06, 2019, 02:05:25 PM

guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks

No.

Small, medium and large are all relative terms. How long is a piece of string?

What is needed is Bitcoin.

What is not needed is almost all of the non-Bitcoin coins (a.k.a. shitcoins). Now, BCH & BSV are the king and queen of shitcoins. Not to mention the "self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto" Craig S. Wright. He is certainly NOT needed.

tl;dr
Buy Bitcoin (BTC).


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May 06, 2019, 02:13:32 PM
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One bCash address is responsible for nearly 50% of the network’s transactions in the past month. Cheesy

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/1b1itzeSKYEKhdcthUSnNJ47Fx2U8Zwwn.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/tiny/one-bitcoin-cash-address-is-responsible-for-nearly-50-percent-of-the-networks-transactions-in-the-past-month/
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Surprise surprise, Bcash has been struggling to stay alive since it's inception.
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May 06, 2019, 02:21:59 PM

Chief economist of the World Bank and former senior vice president Joseph Stiglitz calls for “shutdown” of “the cryptocurrencies”.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/02/joseph-stiglitz-we-should-shutdown-the-cryptocurrencies.html?
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Seriously though, why would you bother to continue to flog that dead horse?
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https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1125390265953472514

We just got out of the CryptoWinter phase and now comes the CryptoFUD.

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May 06, 2019, 02:46:43 PM

Chief economist of the World Bank and former senior vice president Joseph Stiglitz calls for “shutdown” of “the cryptocurrencies”.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/02/joseph-stiglitz-we-should-shutdown-the-cryptocurrencies.html?

The more Governmnents, Central banks or whatever BS FIAT advocates want to ban Bitcoin, the more Bitcoin will prosper.
The reason is because BTC's ultimate use case is actually to be an uncensorable, unconfiscatable form of Store of Value. The more Government want to forbid you to dispose of your wealth, the more you want to avoid Government control, so the more Bitcoin is precious. 

Fiat money can only beat BTC becoming better at being hard money and making BTC useless in the first place (very difficult).

Bitcoin is a competitive push for Fiat money.
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May 06, 2019, 02:47:12 PM
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Bitcoin’s Lightning Network Comes to the Apple Watch

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On Sunday (May 5), BlueWallet Services released a new version (v4.0.0) of its Bitcoin and Lightning wallet for iOS, which is called "BlueWallet";
this “milestone” release comes with an Apple Watch app that allows users to generate Lightning invoices directly on the watch.

https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/05/bitcoins-lightning-network-comes-to-the-apple-watch/
I haven't seen a single person use their watch to pay for anything regardless of payment method.

Seems gimmicky. Like who really is going to pull up a qr code on their watch rather than their phone.

I do not either, but maybe one day not far away, you can leave home alone with your watch and pay or buy what you want, without a credit card, without money in your pocket, just your watch.

Anyway I only publish the news that I see interesting, but it is good to see that they are constantly developing technology to apply Bitcoin in all areas, these small details are also part of the adoption.

It seems that once the app is developed for the Iphone, then the watch becomes almost a seamless addition whether people would use the app to pay from the watch or not, they have the option.    I bought an Apple watch, less than a year ago, mostly because I wanted to keep track of some exercises that I had started to do earlier in the year, and after wearing the watch for a few months, it became more and more apparent that I was able to increase certain avenues a lot more with the watch than I had previously thought within what I wanted to do.  The interface with the phone is also quite seamless, and caused me to get used to doing a lot more on the watch, than I had even thought to be practical, even making a quickie glance at the bitcoin price or some other quick glance,  but frequently, if I want more detail, then I will go to my phone, and if I want even greater detail, I will go to my computer....

In other words, there are levels of quickie, and some kinds of payments, such as lightning, might become more quickie, convenient and easy from the watch versus the difficulties of pulling out the phone, in some circumstances.  

Let's say, for example, I went out for a jog, in some unfamiliar city, but for a variety of reasons I did not want to bring my phone or anything else with me or I wanted to jog naked - and either I get lost or I don't feel like jogging back, or I get a craving for a lapdance - or some other good or service.  Sure would be convenient to have a means of payment on my persona in those kinds of circumstances, so with an app on my phone, I would be able to receive my goods or services without having to jog 5 miles to retrieve my phone.
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May 06, 2019, 02:50:56 PM


Everything you have to say is pure unadulterated crap. Do you ever tire of being wrong? What the hell is your purpose besides confirming that BSV tards are retarded?

Seems to me that this time at least, alevlaslo posted factual data. Which you have deigned to label as 'unadulterated crap'. Looks like it is you that is in the wrong this time, nutildah.

Unless, of course, you wish to disprove the data.

Put up or shut up.
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May 06, 2019, 03:03:19 PM

It's simply amazing... ZEC, STEEM, WAN, etc, are today at all-time lows against bitcoin! Shocked

Daaaamn this n00b still have a sizeable bag of ZEC somewhere Roll Eyes

You better dump that shit on the next pump, its dead , stick a fork in it.




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May 06, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
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Square just reported a record $65.5m in quarterly bitcoin sales. Assuming average BTC prices in 1Q19 (not perfect) that translates to ~ 17K worth of BTC volume, up over 70% since 4Q and +5x volumes in 1Q18. Impressive considering April's run hits 2Q's numbers
https://twitter.com/_RJTodd/status/1123683578586513408
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If BTC sales on Square Cash maintain current growth rates, then by the next Bitcoin halving (May 2020), roughly 2 BTC will be purchased on Square Cash for every new BTC that is mined.
https://twitter.com/yassineARK/status/1123730622881705986
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May 06, 2019, 03:05:10 PM
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If somebody already posted this my bad.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=lyTOWUVaDHJdfUfkNZePWg==&system=prod

Bitfinex's legal response for todays hearing.

TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION ... 1
DISCUSSION ... 2
I. The Attorney General Failed to Show that the
Martin Act’s Jurisdictional Scope Covers the Respondents ................................... 2
II. The Attorney General’s Ex Parte Application Should Have Been
Governed by the Traditional Standards for a Preliminary Injunction ..................... 3
III. The April 24, 2019 Order Cannot Be Justified
Under the Traditional Preliminary Injunction Standards ........................................ 8
A. The Attorney General Will Not Succeed on the Merits .............................. 8
B. There Is No Harm, Much Less Harm that Is Ongoing or Irreparable ....... 10
C. The Balance of the Equities Favors Bitfinex and Tether .......................... 11
IV. A Preliminary Injunction Is Not “Proper and Expedient” .................................... 12
CONCLUSION ... 13

Looks like the AG is full of shit and lazy, but we still gotta watch out for Kangaroo Court shenanigans.


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Everything you have to say is pure unadulterated crap. Do you ever tire of being wrong? What the hell is your purpose besides confirming that BSV tards are retarded?

Seems to me that this time at least, alevlaslo posted factual data. Which you have deigned to label as 'unadulterated crap'. Looks like it is you that is in the wrong this time, nutildah.

Unless, of course, you wish to disprove the data.

Put up or shut up.

Yeah... let's pump the aleviaslo tard..... . Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Idiot. What happened to the price of BTC since Jan 2017? Did it go up or down?

Bitcoin tends to lose market cap dominance as it goes UP because it drags most other altcoins with it, BSV being a recent exception.

Everything you have to say is pure unadulterated crap. Do you ever tire of being wrong? What the hell is your purpose besides confirming that BSV tards are retarded?

And tarts too, as DaRude previously pondered such usage.
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Because in the fractional reserve banking system, the vast majority of the money that banks loan does not exist until the very moment the loan is made. It is the indebtedness itself that zaps the money into existence. As such, the 'principal' is something that the bank would not have to lend you (or to use for any other purpose), as that money does not even exist before the loan is made. The bank acts like this principal is their money that they are lending. But if it is the very act of borrowing it that zaps it into existence, was it really the bank's to begin with? (Of course not) Why could the borrower not zap it into existence themselves? Only because the bank has been granted under colour of law this exclusive ability to counterfeit new money into existence. And worse, when it is repaid, it is paid to the bank. Money that the bank did not have until the act of the loan zapped it into existence. And to add insult to injury, the bank not only gets this newly created money, they charge interest to the borrower for the privilege of being allowed to counterfeit this money into existence.

Bizarre, but it's the motherfuckin' truth.

Sure - if you can find a way to fix that, and allow for partial reserve banking, I'm willing to listen to your ideas. But if you're feeding me a turd that's been sprayed in gold paint, I ain't gonna go for that.

Response to yours lightfoot's post (omitted for space).

Perhaps I am misunderstanding the banking system in general. But what you're describing seems to be central banking to me.



Let's assume that we now live in a world without central banking. I am the first person to create a bank.

People deposit their money with me for safe-keeping because I have state-of-the-art impenetrable security. I now realize that people only use 50% of the funds during peak load.

Meanwhile, businesses ask me for loans so they can eventually turn them into profits.

I decide to use an amount sufficiently below 50% of the money deposited in my bank to hand out loans and receive interest.

What I have now done was writing loans using money that exists as my clients put it in my care.

I decide to be a greedy cunt because I'm the only bank in town and very smart, so I keep all the profits to myself.

Someone who is very smarterer than me comes along and copies my system, but now hands out some of the profits back into depositor accounts.

This repeats until an equilibrium creditor and depositor interest rate is reached that covers all risks while keeping marginal profits for all three parties involved.


Would that not describe private banks without central banking?

And how does that differ from a hedge fund that offered plastic cards and wire transfers?

Do not get fooled by Jbrehers copy pasting tactics, this guy is fake.

However, i agree with Jbreher this fiat system is a scam. Bitcoin is a very good alternative.

It is not possible for Bitcoin to disrupt this fiat scam with bigger blocks, 2e layers was already obvious many years ago.

This is just silly, advocating bigger blocks while it's a dead - end... Undecided
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Response to yours lightfoot's post (omitted for space).

Perhaps I am misunderstanding the banking system in general. But what you're describing seems to be central banking to me.



Let's assume that we now live in a world without central banking. I am the first person to create a bank.

People deposit their money with me for safe-keeping because I have state-of-the-art impenetrable security. I now realize that people only use 50% of the funds during peak load.

Meanwhile, businesses ask me for loans so they can eventually turn them into profits.

I decide to use an amount sufficiently below 50% of the money deposited in my bank to hand out loans and receive interest.

What I have now done was writing loans using money that exists as my clients put it in my care.

I decide to be a greedy cunt because I'm the only bank in town and very smart, so I keep all the profits to myself.

Someone who is very smarterer than me comes along and copies my system, but now hands out some of the profits back into depositor accounts.

This repeats until an equilibrium creditor and depositor interest rate is reached that covers all risks while keeping marginal profits for all three parties involved.


Would that not describe private banks without central banking?

And how does that differ from a hedge fund that offered plastic cards and wire transfers?

Do not get fooled by Jbrehers copy pasting tactics, this guy is fake.

However, i agree with Jbreher this fiat system is a scam. Bitcoin is a very good alternative.

It is not possible for Bitcoin to disrupt this fiat scam with bigger blocks, 2e layers was already obvious many years ago.

This is just silly, advocating bigger blocks while it's a dead - end... Undecided
I am not under the impression that jbreher is of the copy/paste type.

Also that post was about banking in general and had nothing to do with BCash, Bitcoin, or disrupting the financial system.

Thanks for quoting it though, completely forgot about that.

Care to respond jbreher? Genuinely curious.
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May 06, 2019, 03:36:55 PM

The more moving parts the more things can go wrong. I continue to maintain that segwit and lightning was a mistake. Bigger blocks has the same net result and there are no new potential attack vectors. Or any confusion about how the heck it all works (which nobody had clear answers for when it was asked - a big fucking red flag in any situation).
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