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You make some decent arguments here and there when you're not going on and on about Jews or PMs, so it really puzzles me how you fail to understand that metals are going the way of the dodo a generation or two down the road. Except that dodos will be brought back at some point.
I think his persona is actually a piece of work. My wildest and most likely guess is he's a mid-upper class urban jew.

1 He's familiar with relatively obscure details of (((their))) lifestyle/culture and successfully uses his knowledge as a counterfeit "I know my enemy".

2 His level of understanding in certain technical fields is higher than usually shows. What he writes up is not always google soup.

3 He feigns obtuse insensitivity by the use of repetitive patterns, successfully evoking schizoid psychosis.

1 suggests "Jew". 2 suggests middle/upper class education. 3. suggests sophisticated character management, at least at the cliché level.

I wager he often laughs when reading or posting.

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And in the short-term Bitcoin clearly has the superior expected value even without riding the waves up and down.

Also, you keep running the same talking points. Bitcoin is not a permissioned ledger. You are free to process and broadcast your own transactions or employ any number of the payment processors/accelerators.

He knows it and does have some coin for sure. Probably not as much as he'd like: always hungry for more, you know the type. Don't forget (((who))) he actually is.

Undeniably effective. He's one of the first participants I noticed and focused on when I came here as a newbie around 2013.

Roach, as in Mr. Samsa, hm? I guess he was a jew, too, as was Franz K.


1. Could be explained away by fanaticism induced research. I have some very obscure knowledge about very obscure things mostly because I snowball down weird paths out of sheer interest.

2. is clear. I don't know about middle/upper class, but he's definitely not your average racist retard. (Although possibly still a racist retard.)

3. Sounds very plausible. But hard for me to imagine, mostly because I lack the discipline to do anything for such a long time. Seems like the most likely though.

Precisely because he seems to be taking the piss out of people. I agree that he's probably laughing a lot while on this thread (e.g. when he exposed himself as Ibian's sidekick).


Would also be surprised if he didn't have a significant stake in BTC and perhaps some other shitcoins for P&D as well. Always seems to avoid real arguments and clearly not stupid enough to miss out on such an obvious windfall.
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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.
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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.
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Coin Desk: Bitfinex’s Bitcoin Price Excluded from CoinMarketCap Average Calculation

Cryptocurrency data provider CoinMarketCap has excluded bitcoin prices provided by the troubled Bitfinex exchange from its weighted average calculation.

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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
1. No.

2. CSW is factually retarded, not a genius.
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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
1. No.

2. CSW is factually retarded, not a genius.

@alevlaslo lol who CSW??  Cheesy ok i'll engage, what would need to happen for you to admit that CSW is just a charlatan? That is, can you think of any outcome that would make you question your god (e.g. you'll disown him if he won't sign anything with Satoshi's keys by Jan 2020, or you'll disown him if Ayre's shill payment doesn't com in etc...)? So far you only put up a circular argument where CSW can do no wrong.
1-He doesn't want to prove that he's Satoshi because he's Satoshi
2-Every fart that comes out of his mouth is forgivable because he's Satoshi  
3-If you don't believe that he's Satoshi goto 1
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May 06, 2019, 08:40:34 AM

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin.

It's a Rube Goldberg machine that attempts to mimic gold and silver and does it in a million times more unnecessarily complicated manner.  Even after all that unnecessary overcomplication, it fails miserably in all comparative aspects such as decentralization, fungibility, removal of counterparty risk, removal of middlemen (bitcoin has built-in middlemen), store of value, etc.  When you crank complexity to the moon for no reason in a completely inelegant manner and your payoff for doing so is being worse off than what you were attempting to artificially mimic (metals), all you have is the epitome of Rube Goldbergs that has ever existed.
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Coin Desk: Bitfinex’s Bitcoin Price Excluded from CoinMarketCap Average Calculation

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CoinMarketCap doesn't show the equirate price all token and coin sometimes show the avarage price i think better see real market Buttrex, Bitfinex or other exchanger exchange.
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May 06, 2019, 08:47:19 AM

UnknownHolder has it right. ATH = All Time High, as in forever.    The "high price this year"? That should be a different acronym, but not an ATH.

Annual Time High!   !11!1one1
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if you are there for long duration then try some bike tour.

Your travelling plan is driving me crazy tho --------- Singapore> Mexico>now Japan  why in this order? I am guessing you are in business trip and not backpacking.

You still didn't disclosed about the " Surprise"  Grin

Its Golden week in Japan and its annual thingy.

-A bike ? People are crazy here, they drive on the wrong side of the road ! I'd probably get hit by a bus or worse by a Ferrari. Imagine that poor car ! Oh wait, where are you from again ?  Grin Wink
-I know east > west > east again, that's exhausting ! I'm traveling with a group of 80 yr old people, they're all dead by now. Kiddin' of course.
-Well Tokyo is the surprise ! Isn't that enough ? Did you expect me to meet Godzilla, Satoshi... Craig Wright or Roger Ver ? Grin
-Let's tell roach there's a silver week too, he'll move here. Naaa, the Japanese are good people, they don't deserve that.

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I strongly recommend getting a bowl of Kitsune Soba/Ramen/Udon, whichever noodles you prefer. I think they're vegetarian (might have to double check the broth depending on the place), but they use deep-fried tofu as a topping. And unlike regular tofu it actually has flavour. The frying process turns it into some kind of sponge that sucks up all the broth. Love the stuff.

Agedashi-dofu and -mochi are fantastic too. Fried tofu/mochi with usually some sort of bell-pepper sauce.

Curries are great too with all sorts of toppings, can recommend CoCo Ichiban blindly.

Vegetable Tempura just works for anyone. Can never go wrong with anything deep-fried.

Nasu Dengaku - Miso-glazed eggplant.

As far as Miso soup goes, I'm sure you'll find some that is vegetarian. I know that a lot of restaurants use shredded shrimp to give it some seafood flavoured kick, but a lot just use Konbu only.

There should also be some varieties of vegetarian ramen/soba and rice balls (fried or non-fried).


Anyway, just some of the non-meat/non-fish dishes that stood out to me while there.

I'm familiar with Ramen and yes they're the perfect food for me.
Veggie Miso is trickier I found out.

Thanks for the tips, I appreciate it ! I'll keep them in mind.
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Coin Desk: Bitfinex’s Bitcoin Price Excluded from CoinMarketCap Average Calculation

Cryptocurrency data provider CoinMarketCap has excluded bitcoin prices provided by the troubled Bitfinex exchange from its weighted average calculation.

At last...

They exclude Bitfinex but they still list shit exchanges with fake volume like Coinbene or BW.com.



CMC is corrupt to the bone. Unlisting Finex is not enough to fix it.

If you want to see how CMC should look like, use https://openmarketcap.com
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Coin Desk: Bitfinex’s Bitcoin Price Excluded from CoinMarketCap Average Calculation

Cryptocurrency data provider CoinMarketCap has excluded bitcoin prices provided by the troubled Bitfinex exchange from its weighted average calculation.

At last...

They exclude Bitfinex but they still list shit exchanges with fake volume like Coinbene or BW.com.



CMC is corrupt to the mone. Unlisting Finex is not enough to fix it.

If you want to see how CMC should look like, use https://openmarketcap.com

Nice,
I added it to the list of reliable CMC alternatives i posted in my monthly summary:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106432.msg50841890#msg50841890

Thanks.
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if you are there for long duration then try some bike tour.

Your travelling plan is driving me crazy tho --------- Singapore> Mexico>now Japan  why in this order? I am guessing you are in business trip and not backpacking.

You still didn't disclosed about the " Surprise"  Grin

Its Golden week in Japan and its annual thingy.

-A bike ? People are crazy here, they drive on the wrong side of the road ! I'd probably get hit by a bus or worse by a Ferrari. Imagine that poor car ! Oh wait, where are you from again ?  Grin Wink
-I know east > west > east again, that's exhausting ! I'm traveling with a group of 80 yr old people, they're all dead by now. Kiddin' of course.
-Well Tokyo is the surprise ! Isn't that enough ? Did you expect me to meet Godzilla, Satoshi... Craig Wright or Roger Ver ? Grin
-Let's tell roach there's a silver week too, he'll move here. Naaa, the Japanese are good people, they don't deserve that.

@Kenzawak
I strongly recommend getting a bowl of Kitsune Soba/Ramen/Udon, whichever noodles you prefer. I think they're vegetarian (might have to double check the broth depending on the place), but they use deep-fried tofu as a topping. And unlike regular tofu it actually has flavour. The frying process turns it into some kind of sponge that sucks up all the broth. Love the stuff.

Agedashi-dofu and -mochi are fantastic too. Fried tofu/mochi with usually some sort of bell-pepper sauce.

Curries are great too with all sorts of toppings, can recommend CoCo Ichiban blindly.

Vegetable Tempura just works for anyone. Can never go wrong with anything deep-fried.

Nasu Dengaku - Miso-glazed eggplant.

As far as Miso soup goes, I'm sure you'll find some that is vegetarian. I know that a lot of restaurants use shredded shrimp to give it some seafood flavoured kick, but a lot just use Konbu only.

There should also be some varieties of vegetarian ramen/soba and rice balls (fried or non-fried).


Anyway, just some of the non-meat/non-fish dishes that stood out to me while there.

I'm familiar with Ramen and yes they're the perfect food for me.
Veggie Miso is trickier I found out.

Thanks for the tips, I appreciate it ! I'll keep them in mind.

Im keen to try (to make maybe) a folded omelette.

Looked good.
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Another day of scammers creating bogus pictures full of lies.  NONE of that bullshit in your picture is actually a store of value besides gold.  To be a "store of value" something has to be a non-perishable commodity.  Stocks are not stores of value; they're not commodities; they're a business that can implode to zero at any second.  Houses are not stores of value - you could classify them as a commodity, but the physical structure deteriorates and requires enormous amounts of money in maintenance & property tax.  Just because they can be flipped occasionally for profit in inflationary bubbles doesn't mean they're actually stores of value.  A real store of value doesn't blow up just because you stop shoveling money at it.

Bitcoin is NOT a store of value because it's not a real commodity either (among the other problems like having zero fundamentals since it's designed to centralize).  The idea that something could be a store of value that doesn't even exist in the physical world is just buttfucking hilarious.  As I've explained before, you can hoard all 21 million bitcoins in the world if you want to but it grants you ZERO power over anyone.  People can just ignore you and create their own craptocurrency.  This is called lack of Schelling point.  A real commodity cannot be bypassed in this manner. Hoarding a real commodity actually does grant you power.
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guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
1. No.

2. CSW is factually retarded, not a genius.

@alevlaslo lol who CSW??  Cheesy ok i'll engage, what would need to happen for you to admit that CSW is just a charlatan? That is, can you think of any outcome that would make you question your god (e.g. you'll disown him if he won't sign anything with Satoshi's keys by Jan 2020, or you'll disown him if Ayre's shill payment doesn't com in etc...)? So far you only put up a circular argument where CSW can do no wrong.
1-He doesn't want to prove that he's Satoshi because he's Satoshi
2-Every fart that comes out of his mouth is forgivable because he's Satoshi  
3-If you don't believe that he's Satoshi goto 1

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/166/kleiman-v-wright/

Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 1 of 4



                                   UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                                   SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

                                 CASE NO. 18-CIV-80176-Bloom/Reinhart


  IRA KLEIMAN, as personal representative of
  the estate of David Kleiman, and
  W&K INFO DEFENSE RESEARCH, LLC.

                 PlaintiffS,

         v.

  CRAIG WRIGHT

                 Defendant.

  ___________________________________/

   ORDER ON DEFENDANT’S MOTION REGARDING PRODUCTION OF A LIST OF
   THE PUBLIC ADDRESSES OF HIS BITCOIN AS OF DECEMBER 31, 2013 [DE 155]

         Before the Court is the Defendant’s Sealed Motion Regarding Production of a List of the

  Public Addresses of his Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013 (“the Bitcoin Holdings Motion.”) [DE

  155]. The Defendant filed a Motion to Seal the Bitcoin Holdings Motion, DE 151, which the

  undersigned granted. DE 153. Plaintiffs filed their Response under seal. DE 162. For the reasons

  stated below, the Court finds that redacted, unsealed versions of the Bitcoin Holdings Motion and

  the Plaintiffs’ Response to that motion can be filed in the public record. Nothing contained in the

  instant Order discloses material that remains under seal.

         The Court, sua sponte¸ has reconsidered its Order granting Dr. Wright’s Motion to Seal. It

  is this Court’s general policy that its proceedings are public and Court filings are matters of public

  record. SDFL Local Rule 5.4(a). A party seeking to seal materials related to a discovery motion

  must satisfy the burden for a Rule 26 protective order, that is, good cause. Chicago Tribune Co.

  v. Bridgestone/Firestone, Inc. 263 F.3d 1304, 1312-13 (11th Cir. 2001); FTC v. AbbVie Products,
Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 2 of 4



  LLC, 713 F.3d 54, 63 (11th Cir. 2013). Having had the opportunity to review the party’s pleadings,

  the Court finds there is good cause to seal portions of the pleadings, but not the pleadings in their

  entirety.   Redacted versions of those pleadings can be filed in the public record without

  compromising the original purpose for sealing them. 1 The Court will allow the parties to be heard

  before finalizing its redactions.

          At issue is whether it would be unduly burdensome for Dr. Wright to produce a list of his

  bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013. This Court has held multiple discovery hearings that

  addressed issues relating to Dr. Wright’s current and past bitcoin holdings. DE 107 at 120-123;

  DE 122 at 61-63; DE 124 at 18-23. Ultimately, the Court ordered Dr. Wright to produce a list of

  his bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, without prejudice to Dr. Wright filing a motion for

  protective order based on undue burden. DE 124 at 18-23.

          Thereafter, Dr. Wright filed an unverified motion in which he identified a number of

  bitcoin public addresses that he mined. Although not delineated as a Motion for Protective Order,

  that is what the pleading is. Dr. Wright asserted that he does not have a complete list of the public

  addresses he owned on any date, including December 31, 2013. He further asserted that in 2011

  he transferred ownership of all his bitcoin to a blind trust. Although he makes the conclusory

  statement that it would be unduly burdensome to produce a list of his bitcoin holdings as of

  December 31, 2013, this conclusion is not supported by facts. In essence, he does not argue undue

  burden, he argues impossibility. The argument that Dr. Wright is incapable of providing an

  accurate listing of his current or historical bitcoin holdings was never presented in any of the prior

  hearings before this Court, when the Court was crafting the scope of discovery. Notably, the



  1
   Remaining under seal are the names of non-parties and the identifying information for the amount
  and identity of certain bitcoin. In addition, discovery material attached to Plaintiffs’ Response as
  Exhibits 1 and 2 remains under seal.
                                                        2
Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 3 of 4



  Bitcoin Holdings Motion does not refute the obvious response to this argument – get the

  information from the trustee of the blind trust.

         In response to Dr. Wright’s Motion, the Plaintiffs ask the Court to order the following

  additional discovery: (1) make Dr. Wright produce the list of bitcoins owned as of December 31,

  2013; (2) make Dr. Wright identify all bitcoins he transferred to the blind trust in 2011; (3) make

  Dr. Wright produce documents related to the blind trust; (4) make Dr. Wright identify, under oath,

  the identity of the current and past trustees of the blind trust, the beneficiaries of the blind trust,

  and the manner in which the bitcoins were transferred to the blind trust; and (5) permit further

  deposition of Dr. Wright with regard to his ownership and control over bitcoins. DE 162 at 5-6.

  The Court finds that this additional discovery is warranted. The Court has already found that

  tracing Dr. Wright’s bitcoin holdings is relevant to the Plaintiffs’ theft claims. The order to

  produce a list of bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, was a compromise; it was the Court’s

  attempt to provide Plaintiffs with relevant and material evidence without unduly burdening Dr.

  Wright. That Dr. Wright now argues it is not feasible for him to identify the bitcoin he held on

  December 31, 2013, does not diminish Plaintiffs’ entitlement to the pertinent evidence. That

  evidence can be obtained through other means, which the Court will authorize Plaintiffs to use.

         It is therefore ORDERED that:

         1. Dr. Wright’s Motion Regarding Production of a List of the Public Addresses of His

             Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013, [DE 155] which is deemed to be a Motion for

             Protective Order, is DENIED.

         2. The Order to Seal [DE 153] is modified to allow for the filing of redacted copies of DE

             155 and DE 162. The Court will provide copies of its proposed redacted pleadings to

             the parties, but will not yet file those redacted pleadings on the docket. The parties



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             shall notify the Court by May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time if they seek additional

             redactions.

         3. On or before May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall provide to

             Plaintiffs a sworn declaration identifying the name and location of the blind trust, the

             name and contact information for the current trustee and any past trustees, and the

             names and contact information of any current or past beneficiaries.

         4. On or before May 9, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce to

             Plaintiffs a copy of any and all documents relating to the formation, administration, and

             operation of the blind trust.    The production shall be accompanied by a sworn

             declaration of authenticity.

         5. On or before May 15, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce all

             transactional records of the blind trust, including but not limited to any records

             reflecting the transfer of bitcoin into the blind trust in or about 2011. The production

             shall be accompanied by a sworn declaration of authenticity.

         6. Dr. Wright shall execute any and all documents, or other legal process, necessary to

             effectuate the release of documents in the possession, custody, or control of the Trustee.

         7. Any ruling on whether Dr. Wright’s deposition should be re-opened will be deferred

             pending the production described in this Order.

         DONE AND ORDERED in Chambers this 3rd day of May, 2019, at West Palm Beach in

  the Southern District of Florida.




                                             UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE


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May 06, 2019, 09:36:58 AM
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https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=lyTOWUVaDHJdfUfkNZePWg==&system=prod

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    Bitfinex and Tether moved to vacate the ex parte order “because it was issued based on incomplete or incorrect facts and the wrong legal standard”
    Bitfinex and Tether argue that issuing the “there was no ongoing fraud, and no “victims” in need of the drastic remedy of an injunction to protect them”
    They argue that NYAG first needs to establish the basis for its authority “to even regulate in this sphere” and require Tether and Bitfinex to “address blunderbuss document demands”
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https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/05/06/bitfinex-and-tether-respond-to-nyag-saying-that-there-is-no-ongoing-fraud-and-no-victims/

What's really interesting to me here: 1. They conveniently leave out that they changed their website quietly to include that its reserves could consist of loans to affiliates 2. Tether doesn't mention that they lied about being 100% backed by USD for several months
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Bitcoin is not a permissioned ledger.

Of course it is.  Any non-fungible token where transactions aren't blinded and transaction validators are allowed to arbitrarly tamper with transactions is.  It doesn't matter if there's a thousand transaction validators and only one of them blacklists you, the simple fact that all of them CAN blacklist you at any moment is what determines it's classification.  

But in the case of bitcoin, the number of transaction validators is designed to centralize so much there will likely only ever be between 1 to 10 or so that actually matter at any given time.  That extreme centralization characteristic allows RETARDEDLY EASY full spectrum control of it by governments and other (((cartels))) to use it as the ultimate dystopian cashless society slavery system such as Aaron Russo warned about.
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