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Let the walls mantain us above 7k and i´m a happy puppy

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May 12, 2019, 09:43:38 PM

I will look forward to it... You will gloat, as the BTC price flies through $20k, and I will assert that you are "full of shit", while both of us laugh are way to the bank (in the $30k plus arena.. because we won't be hanging out in the $20ks for very long).

OMG! Someone, please merit this guy for me!

No need to worry.

BTCgonna do what BTC does, and we seem to have enough cushion that any of us HODLers should not be worrying too much... and if we are worrying, we have a bit more profits that we could skim off in this $7k price range in order to prepare us for $5,800 or lower, just in case....

Let's say, for example, our total stash is only 5BTC.
  Let's say that we have been struggling for about the past two years to acquire BTC with every paycheck and upon every price dip.  The reality of the matter is that if we really fear going down to $5,800 or lower, we could shave off somewhere between .05 BTC and .25BTC (that is between 1% and 5%) to prepare our BTC portfolio for such eventuality... personally, I would only play with the smaller amounts, but I understand that some guys (and gal) might be willing to risk a higher amount in order to prepare for down... but we should know that we are preparing for both down and up.. accordingly, we have to be able to tweak our holdings, if we are feeling uncomfortable in order to cause more comfort.

I am not always comfortable, but I have sold a bit more than 2% of my BTC portfolio with the price rise from $4,200 to $7,585... Whether I am able to buy those BTC back or not, I remain somewhat neutral in my feelings.... therefore if the price goes down, I will use some of those proceeds to buy back the BTC that I sold, yet if the BTC price does not go down, I am o.k. with that outcome too... because over 96% of my BTC to fiat value remains in BTC...

Win-win situation, I love it! I tried to do the same with a little part of my holdings (about 5%) yesterday, which is totally stuck in Binance for now. Sold at $7400 and thought the same thing, "if bitcoin goes down, I'll buy back from this USDC bag, if it doesn't go down, I still win with my remaining holdings". But then I bought back the BTC (FOMO'ed at the dump) at $6800 as I liked the little 0.03 BTC profit off that Binance bag.



Next two hours are critical.

Send him 50% of my stash, Cheesy
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May 12, 2019, 10:02:53 PM

Win-win situation, I love it! I tried to do the same with a little part of my holdings (about 5%) yesterday, which is totally stuck in Binance for now. Sold at $7400 and thought the same thing, "if bitcoin goes down, I'll buy back from this USDC bag, if it doesn't go down, I still win with my remaining holdings". But then I bought back the BTC (FOMO'ed at the dump) at $6800 as I liked the little 0.03 BTC profit off that Binance bag.

Based on what you've just posted, your holdings must be around 6.8 BTC. Not a small amount, well done!

Keep HoDLing!

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May 12, 2019, 10:03:29 PM
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Supreme King Uberbear Tyler Jenks issues first Bitcoin buy recommendation in 17 months:



https://twitter.com/LucidInvestment/status/1127250971053129728
Hyperwave might have some merit (although not here and now). But this guy is clearly retarded if he recommends a first buy in 17 months, hyperwave or not.

I find it amusing how the somewhat maligned teenagers in their parents basements making charts on tradingview and crypto twitter have issued better calls than many of these "experts".
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New Masterluc Telegram Post. Translation:

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I looked at the weekly and daily closed candles .... Not a hint of a weak trend. Bitcoin said "who the hell is wang" and defiantly went to draw a bubble from 3000 to 10,000 in one wave, breaking through the six as oil. All the same, we will test $ 6000, true from above). Hmm. What does this tell us?

Bitcoin has demonstrated that it is heavily oversold. (Ahem, still, sitting almost astride a weekly ma200 ....). If you extrapolate what is happening now for the future, it is not difficult to imagine that now it is only one, and then there will be three ... And five ... Well, that is, this jump is just a pimple on the future of an elephant.

Another Bitcoin said, who bulls shorts, will be without panties.

In short. My new opinion is $ 10k, then $ 6k. But it is not exactly! ))
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May 12, 2019, 10:13:10 PM

CME first trade was 7150 Cool
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May 12, 2019, 10:14:43 PM
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​​Cryptos are in the middle of rally, excitement and wariness are in the air

As cryptocurrencies are in the middle of a rally these days, the market is waiting excitedly (or warily) on whether or not it will continue and how far it will go.



https://twitter.com/phillipnunnuk/status/1127311488870420482

I think that the odds are pretty damned low that the BTC price would rise to $20k in 45 days or less in this second time around.  We were in a very strong FOMO and upwards momentum that late 2017 first time around.

Actually, we would be quite lucky if BTC prices were to rise to $20k within the next 365 days....   More likely scenarios would be at least over 500 days.

I would love to be proven wrong, but it seems quite fantastical and pie in the sky for anyone to be seriously expecting the BTC price to go up to $20k in 45 days, absent some real fantastical and unexpected developments.
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May 12, 2019, 10:19:42 PM
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Agree with you there JJG, no $20,000 breach until at least 12 months, probably 18 months. Moon is in sight though & we’ll get there.
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May 12, 2019, 10:22:47 PM

Agree with you there JJG, no $20,000 breach until at least 12 months, probably 18 months. Moon is in sight though & we’ll get there.

How many times did I hear we didn't where gonna see 7xxx this year ........ trying to predict the price is just impossible as just wastin e of time trying Smiley

F***  20K could happen in 1-2-3 weeks if BTC want it to be so!!! Cheesy

Closing in to HODLsleep


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this is at consensus
rumours flying about
probably just cryptoshitties for sale
unless...
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meanwhile at magical crypto conference
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May 12, 2019, 10:31:26 PM

Agree with you there JJG, no $20,000 breach until at least 12 months, probably 18 months. Moon is in sight though & we’ll get there.

How many times did I hear we didn't where gonna see 7xxx this year ........ trying to predict the price is just impossible as just wastin e of time trying Smiley

F***  20K could happen in 1-2-3 weeks if BTC want it to be so!!! Cheesy

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It's impossible, but then... it happens.
IDK.. if we are mini-bubbling here, then we could finish at around 10K, then down to 7k or even 6K (within 2-3 mo), but then pop all the way to 25-34K a la 2013 "double-pop" style.
PS: funny, I posted this without looking and now I see that masterluc (in infofront's translation) said more or less the same.
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May 12, 2019, 10:34:28 PM

This dump was expected. Let's see if it extends further or not.

Win-win situation, I love it! I tried to do the same with a little part of my holdings (about 5%) yesterday, which is totally stuck in Binance for now. Sold at $7400 and thought the same thing, "if bitcoin goes down, I'll buy back from this USDC bag, if it doesn't go down, I still win with my remaining holdings". But then I bought back the BTC (FOMO'ed at the dump) at $6800 as I liked the little 0.03 BTC profit off that Binance bag.

Based on what you've just posted, your holdings must be around 6.8 BTC. Not a small amount, well done!

Keep HoDLing!

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Oh wow! That number is extremely close to my overall portfolio worth. We've got some nice mathematicians in this thread, I wasn't aware of that! Cheesy

Honestly, ADA played a big role in getting me to that number; if ADA hadn't pumped as it did, I'd have been struggling at ~3.75 BTC instead of ~6.5 BTC. I literally sold the exact top of ADA/BTC last month, after it went 2x. Now it's back to the spot from where it pumped; however, I'm no longer interested in getting a crazy bag of it anymore as IOHK failed yet again to release the Shelley testnet on time. Without Shelley (PoS) on mainnet, I'm quite sure that Coinbase won't be listing them either.
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This dump was expected. Let's see if it extends further or not.

Win-win situation, I love it! I tried to do the same with a little part of my holdings (about 5%) yesterday, which is totally stuck in Binance for now. Sold at $7400 and thought the same thing, "if bitcoin goes down, I'll buy back from this USDC bag, if it doesn't go down, I still win with my remaining holdings". But then I bought back the BTC (FOMO'ed at the dump) at $6800 as I liked the little 0.03 BTC profit off that Binance bag.

Based on what you've just posted, your holdings must be around 6.8 BTC. Not a small amount, well done!

Keep HoDLing!

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Oh wow! That number is extremely close to my overall portfolio worth. We've got some nice mathematicians in this thread, I wasn't aware of that! Cheesy

Honestly, ADA played a big role in getting me to that number; if ADA hadn't pumped as it did, I'd have been struggling at ...

kidding aside...that's a historical record as long as bitcointalk lives, tread carefully.
This could be worth, say, $6.8-68 mil sometime in the future, give or take.
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May 12, 2019, 10:43:38 PM

No need to worry.

BTCgonna do what BTC does, and we seem to have enough cushion that any of us HODLers should not be worrying too much... and if we are worrying, we have a bit more profits that we could skim off in this $7k price range in order to prepare us for $5,800 or lower, just in case....

Let's say, for example, our total stash is only 5BTC.
  Let's say that we have been struggling for about the past two years to acquire BTC with every paycheck and upon every price dip.  The reality of the matter is that if we really fear going down to $5,800 or lower, we could shave off somewhere between .05 BTC and .25BTC (that is between 1% and 5%) to prepare our BTC portfolio for such eventuality... personally, I would only play with the smaller amounts, but I understand that some guys (and gal) might be willing to risk a higher amount in order to prepare for down... but we should know that we are preparing for both down and up.. accordingly, we have to be able to tweak our holdings, if we are feeling uncomfortable in order to cause more comfort.

I am not always comfortable, but I have sold a bit more than 2% of my BTC portfolio with the price rise from $4,200 to $7,585... Whether I am able to buy those BTC back or not, I remain somewhat neutral in my feelings.... therefore if the price goes down, I will use some of those proceeds to buy back the BTC that I sold, yet if the BTC price does not go down, I am o.k. with that outcome too... because over 96% of my BTC to fiat value remains in BTC...
Win-win situation, I love it! I tried to do the same with a little part of my holdings (about 5%) yesterday, which is totally stuck in Binance for now. Sold at $7400 and thought the same thing, "if bitcoin goes down, I'll buy back from this USDC bag, if it doesn't go down, I still win with my remaining holdings". But then I bought back the BTC (FOMO'ed at the dump) at $6800 as I liked the little 0.03 BTC profit off that Binance bag.

Yes.  That is the idea.   A step in the right direction.  Usually, I would spread out the buys a little more incrementally. 

I also understand the idea of FOMO buying back - because I have done that kind of thing on a number of occasions. 

I already tend to engage in a BTC buy back practice/strategy that tends to involve buying back way too much BTC and way too early.    In that regard, in the December 2017 bull run, I sold small amounts of BTC all the way up to $19,500 or something like that.  And, I began buying back the BTC that I sold (and acquiring more BTC, too) at about $19k, so I bought back BTC all the way down to $3,200-ish.... So it is NOT like I am making any kind of killing with the way that I buy back BTC, based on my ongoing willingness to buy back BTC and to consider that I am profiting because I am accumulating more BTC than I had previously and without injecting more funds.   

Let's take your example. of selling in the ball park of 5% of your stash at $7,400.    Since you stated that you fear going down to $5,800, you could have structured your BTC buy backs to go all the way down to $5,800 or some price in that ball park.  For example, you could have divided the proceeds up into 10 parts, and set your BTC buy back orders of .5% every $100 (between $6,800 and $5,800), or some other variation of that.  I understand that your buying back all of it at $6,800 was a bit extreme, even though it was a profitable transaction, yet your "FOMO buy back" did not end up insuring you for the $5,800 price that you are likely continuing to fear.

I am not really saying that you need to do anything exactly right now, and personally, I rarely ever sell more than .5% of my BTC holdings at any one time, and even selling that much, at once makes me nervous.  Like I mentioned in my earlier post, it took a movement of more than $3k (80%) from $4,200 to $7585 to cause me to sell a bit more than 2% of my BTC holdings... (and that was more than 15 sales orders.. and I think that my highest sell was at $7,350-ish.. - by the way, I don't set either my buy orders or my sell orders at exact round numbers).
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May 12, 2019, 10:46:48 PM

And into my HODLshuttle, curious where we @tomorrow and how the coming week, weeks wil look like!

Also members, watchers of the WALL do remember

The next 24-weeks are Extremely CRITICAL
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May 12, 2019, 10:48:22 PM

Win-win situation, I love it! I tried to do the same with a little part of my holdings (about 5%) yesterday, which is totally stuck in Binance for now. Sold at $7400 and thought the same thing, "if bitcoin goes down, I'll buy back from this USDC bag, if it doesn't go down, I still win with my remaining holdings". But then I bought back the BTC (FOMO'ed at the dump) at $6800 as I liked the little 0.03 BTC profit off that Binance bag.

Based on what you've just posted, your holdings must be around 6.8 BTC. Not a small amount, well done!

Keep HoDLing!

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Whether accurate or not, great job investigating and showing where there might be holes in opsec choices that members make here.
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Actually, we would be quite lucky if BTC prices were to rise to $20k within the next 365 days....   More likely scenarios would be at least over 500 days.

I would love to be proven wrong, but it seems quite fantastical and pie in the sky for anyone to be seriously expecting the BTC price to go up to $20k in 45 days, absent some real fantastical and unexpected developments.

This is really obvious to anyone with a bit of logical thought.

Of course predictions cannot be certain, but the probabilities of these more extreme bullish pronouncements are very small.

I suppose it is one reason why so many ppl will always fail at trading : they get caught-up in manias and buy/sell at the wrong moment..... but it is comforting to have these flights of fancy !
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