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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (1.9%)
7/28 - 10 (18.5%)
8/4 - 10 (18.5%)
8/11 - 5 (9.3%)
8/18 - 1 (1.9%)
8/25 - 2 (3.7%)
After August - 25 (46.3%)
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January 05, 2020, 10:33:40 AM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,346

Are we going bullish?

As long as we stay below $8.200 in january, i'd be bearish (short term).


And if we go above, would your guess then still be the same on that game??

This is a good question. To be true, i am bearish atm (fully since 11/2019), until after the halvening. That's why i decided to prepare for $5-$6k zones around end of Q1/2020.
If the price breaks the upper boundary of the downtrend channel, within january respectively (around $8.2k), i'd likely change my sentiment and i would have to admit that i chose the wrong bet for April 1st. Which would be the same "mistake" like in the last Q4 game, just the other way round.

EDIT: Why?
Because i was wrong too many times in the last two years, just because i didn't wait for confirmation of various buy or sell signals.


I am interested in your "edit" comment at the end bolded above.  Do you really believe that there is such a thing as "buy"/"sell" signals?  Wouldn't we be MOAR richie if we knew about such purported signals?  Surely, after the fact we know all kinds of fucking things about the existence of such 20/20 hindsight buy/sell signals, but I doubt that they are so damned clear while in the midst of the process that any of us are going to transition into MOAR richie rather than MOAR poor for our gambling upon such bullshit purported signals.    

Good luck with playing around with your purported "buy"/"sell" signals...., this time is different....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well, you should know me better now, JJG.
Lemme explain:
1. Of course there is nothing like those "signals", just "recommendations" or "hints" from "traders" for market moves based on TA and pattern analysis. Those are purely virtual.
2. I don't trade. I used these trading terms to label certain "points" in trending, where i consider the price to go up, down or change momentum/direction/steepness (however). I am using trader-language, that's visible and correct.
3. About my other, older post to which you responded: OF COURSE i don't guarantee any movements to happen, expectations are purely based on my personal judgement of market movements (see above).
This time i was mainly right, but i don't see myself as expert or advisor or whatever, just trying to learn about market dynamics and occasionally leave comments for probably getting non-destructive feedback.

I hope i made myself clear, don't try to read between the lines, there's just empty space to find  Wink
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January 05, 2020, 10:38:12 AM

I hope i made myself clear, don't try to read between the lines, there's just empty space to find  Wink

That's just because you're a German speaker  Tongue Tongue Tongue
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January 05, 2020, 10:39:07 AM
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I hope i made myself clear, don't try to read between the lines, there's just empty space to find  Wink

That's just because you're a German speaker  Tongue Tongue Tongue

I guess so, yep  Grin

EDIT: Donaudampschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän  Grin Tongue
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January 05, 2020, 11:06:24 AM

This 52 location threat from Trump is most likely exactly that, just a threat. Iran aren’t going to risk going up against the most powerful nation in the world.



Iran has no choice. Terrorist regime in Warshington wants war. They'll have it!
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January 05, 2020, 11:10:46 AM

This 52 location threat from Trump is most likely exactly that, just a threat. Iran aren’t going to risk going up against the most powerful nation in the world.



Iran has no choice. Terrorist regime in Warshington wants war. They'll have it!


Proxy wars via arms sales to paramilitaries and employment of military contractors (Blackwater, whatever Erik Prince is up to these days) has been the way to go since Iraq. Its much more expensive and far less yielding of results, which is perfect for business. My guess is the U.S. won't officially declare war, much like they didn't for Iraq II or Afghanistan.
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January 05, 2020, 11:23:55 AM

This 52 location threat from Trump is most likely exactly that, just a threat. Iran aren’t going to risk going up against the most powerful nation in the world.



Iran has no choice. Terrorist regime in Warshington wants war. They'll have it!


Proxy wars via arms sales to paramilitaries and employment of military contractors (Blackwater, whatever Erik Prince is up to these days) has been the way to go since Iraq. Its much more expensive and far less yielding of results, which is perfect for business. My guess is the U.S. won't officially declare war, much like they didn't for Iraq II or Afghanistan.

The war is already officially declared! Trump ordered killing of an Iranian official!

General Qasem Soleimani was officially invited to visit Iraq and he made official visit to Iraq. He was met at the Baghdad airport by Iraqi hosts and was killed by the terrorists occupying Iraq and so far pretending Iraq is a sovereign country. The mask is off. Iraq is not a country. It is just an occupied territory. American soldiers in that region are not subjects to the Geneva convention anymore as they are members of a terrorist group.


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January 05, 2020, 11:52:09 AM

... The mask is off....

It was never on.
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January 05, 2020, 12:16:02 PM

This 52 location threat from Trump is most likely exactly that, just a threat. Iran aren’t going to risk going up against the most powerful nation in the world.



Iran has no choice. Terrorist regime in Warshington wants war. They'll have it!


Proxy wars via arms sales to paramilitaries and employment of military contractors (Blackwater, whatever Erik Prince is up to these days) has been the way to go since Iraq. Its much more expensive and far less yielding of results, which is perfect for business. My guess is the U.S. won't officially declare war, much like they didn't for Iraq II or Afghanistan.

The war is already officially declared! Trump ordered killing of an Iranian official!

General Qasem Soleimani was officially invited to visit Iraq and he made official visit to Iraq. He was met at the Baghdad airport by Iraqi hosts and was killed by the terrorists occupying Iraq and so far pretending Iraq is a sovereign country. The mask is off. Iraq is not a country. It is just an occupied territory. American soldiers in that region are not subjects to the Geneva convention anymore as they are members of a terrorist group.



This is biggest concern by many countries specially Islamic countries as General Qasem Soleimani was on official visit and they attack on him this never been allowed but USA doing under the flag of UN which is hurting to Islamic countries now they are asking for some other alternative of this which is very difficult but not impossible in presence of Saudi Arab in USA camp.
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This 52 location threat from Trump is most likely exactly that, just a threat. Iran aren’t going to risk going up against the most powerful nation in the world.

True.  They aren't totally stupid, but their model will be asymmetrical warfare.  If you are massively outgunned you don't go head on into battle with your enemy.

e.g. Osama Bin Laden struck the US with 19 Saudis armed with box cutters.... It achieved the result he wanted. The IRA fought for their objectives against the British army with small cells of determined men, using weapons like trucks full of fertiliser. 

So, Iran will strike back, but it will be cyber attacks, kidnappings, mining oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, attacking US assets (embassies etc) in outpost areas using local, sympathetic (funded) groups...

The USA equally cannot risk a land war in Iran, and this is where Trump is illogical in ratcheting up the pressure.  Ultimately what is his plan?  They didn't have one after going into Iraq (and look what happened there) they don't have a plan now.  Does he carpet bomb Iran if they blow up a tanker or an embassy? 

It won't be WWIII - but it could turn out incredibly badly in unintended ways - like Americans not being safe in many parts of the world and US assets being at risk for many years to come.   Only the military Industrial complex, the Iranian regime and possibly Trump's re-election prospects will benefit from this.
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January 05, 2020, 12:55:59 PM

Corn drifting upwards
doesn't look like a pumplet
but it's good action.




#haiku
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This is a horrifying glimpse of what will automated spam bots do with this forum in a few years?!
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January 05, 2020, 01:35:28 PM

^

I think I got the JJG version of the AI:

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Hodling is better than trading because both leave a lot of cards to their opponents but each also offer something that you can improve upon. An offensive trasher that can be reanimated can add value to your opponent while a slower trasher that lets you return a specific card to your hand can also take over a game as the presence of several cheap AoE is fantastic.

On top of that, do you really want to discard 4 more cards or maybe even 6? Cards are not as cheap as after, if you discard one you can afford to keep the rest of the card for a turn or two, also if you are looking for one specific card I would suggest keeping only one of the cards you discard, another card is much more valuable for keeping it all until the
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Precision killing
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Taught them a lesson
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Not bad:



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I would say it already writes better and more enjoyable than most signature spammers do.
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Apparently so



https://talktotransformer.com/

edit: seems i was a bit slow  Embarrassed meh
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January 05, 2020, 01:45:49 PM

This 52 location threat from Trump is most likely exactly that, just a threat. Iran aren’t going to risk going up against the most powerful nation in the world.

The evil cult of Judaism will stage a false flag "cyber attack against the financial system" for a financial system that was already about to implode they didn't want to take responsibility for, then blame it on Iran to try and fool the goyim into fighting a war for Jews.
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